RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart

2006-01-17 Thread Loathe
Night Dana. Tim > -Original Message- > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:13 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart > > > I am sure your experience as a WalMart employee was also very > n

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart

2006-01-17 Thread Loathe
Nope, a great response. We are just looking for different things in our lives, that's all. I happen to love DC. Just don't think that because I don't talk about Keynesian Economics anymore (I did here once upon a time, it just got to be too frustrating), or because I don't have the greatest spel

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
I am sure your experience as a WalMart employee was also very nice . Isn't that what you said? As for why be on the list, good question... I do know I have stuff to do. Have a good night. >Mine as well? > >Honestly, if you can't debate your opinions with members of the list, your >ignoring membe

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart

2006-01-17 Thread Loathe
I am saying, that having lived through the cycle you are talking about, that I saw a great amount of local economic improvement. Tim > -Original Message- > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:23 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: [signs of s

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart

2006-01-17 Thread Loathe
More than that. This is a valid point I am going to be making, and I really do not want it to sound like a personal attack against Dana. Dana, how old are you? What is your current salary? What does your current financial situation look like? I am not going to throw numbers out but just what I

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
::smile:: I said a while ago I was going and I am. But since you ask, I am where I want to be, playing with ideas and thinking about a third career. I've been quite affluent, I've been very poor, and I am pretty comfortable as we speak a couple of years out from losing every single thing I owned

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Loathe
Tim > -Original Message- > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:03 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart > > SNIP >, but there are still plenty of people that don't buy online >because they d

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
Nick, I found this as I was closing windows. It may be the calculation you were asking about. It's a little better, in terms of statistics, than I can do. Larry may critique it for us if we ask nicely. Anyway, here is the url and the conclusion. I sort of mumble to myself about some of your co

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart

2006-01-17 Thread Loathe
Mine as well? Honestly, if you can't debate your opinions with members of the list, your ignoring members of the list, why be on the list? Tim > -Original Message- > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:52 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re:

RE: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Loathe
I agree completely. Hell I really liked Shatners Tek Wars stuff, ewven though I know it was junk. But I mean to sully a man that greats reputation is a shame. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:41 AM > To: CF-Commu

RE: So what story SHOULD be made into a movie?

2006-01-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:12 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: So what story SHOULD be made into a movie? > > > What's yours? It doesn't have to be sci-fi. > > 1. A non-Verheoven (e.g. faithful, worth watch

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
This thread is having a hard enough time staying on any kind of remotely relevant topic without me trying to explain to you that this thread is not about you, or your intelligence, or how brilliant you are, none of which I can be bothered to question. Your experience as a WalMart employee is ver

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart

2006-01-17 Thread Loathe
This is an excellent point. Who are we to differentiate between two different companies simply by size. Isn't that "discriminatory" in nature? Tim > -Original Message- > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject:

RE: Network Traffic Monitor

2006-01-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Duane Boudreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:13 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Network Traffic Monitor > > Hi All > > Does anyone know of a product that I can install on my LAN here at home to > log traffic. My wife and I fina

RE: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:58 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Minority Report > > You mean the new Sci Fi channel one, not the original right? > > I have found anything done after Herbets death has been of far lo

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart

2006-01-17 Thread Loathe
>3> The effect on the local economy of a Wal-Mart store is often negative. That is the point I have yet to see anyone prove. Quite simply this should be quantifiable. Wal-Mart has been following the same practices in a great different types of economies successfully for decades now. Your point

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Jillian Koskie
I'm a little confused as to why you feel the need to talk to people like this? -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:27 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart ok Jill, you're Einstei

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Jillian Koskie
I quite specifically said I wasn't following the thread, but just offered it up as a personal experience. -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:23 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal

RE: So what story SHOULD be made into a movie?

2006-01-17 Thread Loathe
Great picks man. Tim > -Original Message- > From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:12 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: So what story SHOULD be made into a movie? > > > > What's yours? It doesn't have to be sci-fi. > > 1. A non-Verheoven (

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Loathe
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:29 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart > > > What business does governments have in getting involved in the day to > day operations of a company, lets see occupat

RE: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Loathe
You mean the new Sci Fi channel one, not the original right? I have found anything done after Herbets death has been of far lower quality. Simply put his son is putting his legend in the dirt, so far as I am concerned. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Nick McClure
> Health benefits from the employer are not a right, nope. But people who > don't have them cause public costs. Fact of life. Maryland is simply > trying to reduce its costs. Sure, but they are doing so in a way the singles out companies based on size. Not profit. I'm ok, not happy, but ok with st

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
It's an analysis. The UC study was a lot more quantitative, I agree. What I liked about this one was the way it set out the pros and cons in the table. I did read the conclusion ;) and yes, it's rather wishy-washy. But a lot of complicated issues are like that. How important s a diverse economy

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
Good points, answered below to keep argument and counter-argument together. >1, it isn't the right of employees to receive health care from their >employer. It is a benefit of employment. Government forcing companies to >offer such benefits makes it a part of minimum wage, and is only a step >clo

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Nick McClure
The item from NCSU isn't a study, it is an opinion. The only stats that he uses point to jobs, claiming that wal-mart created 100 new jobs, while 70 were lost in other retail and warehouse jobs. The other stat I could find was based on California, stating that wal-mart workers earn 31% less than o

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
ok Jill, you're Einstein. Whatever. >Not demonstrating does not indicate a lack of knowledge. > >-Original Message- >From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:57 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart >

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
::shrug:: She has said she worked there and that it was ok. That's fine but that's not economics, which is not particularly concerned with the individual. It may be knowledge of WalMart but it's beside the point, which is the *economic* impact of Walmart on a *community*. I don't think that's

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Nick McClure
OK, my responses to each of these points. 1, it isn't the right of employees to receive health care from their employer. It is a benefit of employment. Government forcing companies to offer such benefits makes it a part of minimum wage, and is only a step closer to socialized medicine. 2, In many

Re: Network Traffic Monitor

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
Can't answer how but I can tell you that Ethereal works on a switched network, as I have used it on one. It takes a little effort to read but I imagine Duane is up to that... Dana >With most home networks using Routers-Switches how effective is a sniffer? >How do you sniff over a Switch? > >On

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
I think I answered this in the last post. A couple of things -- I went back and looked at the California study and though I think it strongly implies that there's a net cost, it does not say that the 2 billion dollar cost is net, no. Here's a recent study of WalMart's economic effect that looks

Re: Network Traffic Monitor

2006-01-17 Thread Vivec
With most home networks using Routers-Switches how effective is a sniffer? How do you sniff over a Switch? On 1/17/06, Paul Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Put a hub on your network and plug in a machine running Ethereal or some > other protocol sniffer. That way, you should be able to monitor

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Nick McClure
You know that is a very hateful way to look at this. I would go so far as to say that she has demonstrated the same amount of knowledge that anybody else in this conversation has. > -Original Message- > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:57 PM

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Jillian Koskie
Not demonstrating does not indicate a lack of knowledge. -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:57 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart whatever. You certainly haven't demonstrated

Re: Way to go, Paul! was Got a Dog! woot!

2006-01-17 Thread Tony
shyaaa... good stuff. i have a good friend who is now 17 days into the same process. im hoping he can hold on too! off to sleep with the young'n now fun fun fun! tw On 1/17/06, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I concur!!! Way to go Paul > You can do it!! :D > > > > ~~

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
whatever. You certainly haven't demonstrated any knowledge of the topic so far. Resent away. >I resent that allegation. Just because I don't vent my opinions or >knowledge on CFCOMM does not mean in any way that I am not familiar with >economic theory. Quite the contrary. ~

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
I am just getting back to this, had to go deal with real life. I appreciate the fact that you seem to be actually thinking about this, and am going to double check the point that I said I would check. After that, I will see if I can find you some numbers within a reasonable amount of time. Howe

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Nick McClure
But there hasn't been any actual proof that a bad deal was made to begin with. > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:45 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart > > Your whole c

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > generally, yes. In the case of Walmart, there is a good case to be made that > the costs to > the community exceed the benefit. The individual possibly might be better off > if the > alternative is unemployment. > Your whole complaint seems to be that the government made a bad de

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Jillian Koskie
I resent that allegation. Just because I don't vent my opinions or knowledge on CFCOMM does not mean in any way that I am not familiar with economic theory. Quite the contrary. -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:12 PM To: CF

RE: Way to go, Paul! was Got a Dog! woot!

2006-01-17 Thread Erika L. Walker
I concur!!! Way to go Paul You can do it!! :D ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:192872 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/li

Way to go, Paul! was Got a Dog! woot!

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
I agree that you need to punish immediately. Not necessarily whap - our current dog was probably mistreated before we had her and this would be the wrong way to go with her -- but make your displeasure known. Especially over the barking in the yard thing, I am a fairly peaceful person but when w

RE: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Loathe
Hell, look at what they did to starship troopers. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:24 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Minority Report > > > You are 100% correct on both counts. I've heard that he was not >

RE: Network Traffic Monitor

2006-01-17 Thread Paul Vernon
Put a hub on your network and plug in a machine running Ethereal or some other protocol sniffer. That way, you should be able to monitor pretty much every packet of data on a small home network... Paul ~| Message: http://www.ho

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Nick McClure
That is beyond social responsibility, and should be dealt with in a legal and standardized manner. > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:28 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wa

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Nick McClure
But you haven't actually provided numbers that support that argument. You have shown where wal-mart makes deals, like many corporations do, with cities to move their facilities into the area. However you haven't shown where this has been a real problem. I also fail to understand how the state pay

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Nick McClure
That is why I said so long as they are operating in a legal manner. Occupational health, pollution and the like are already legal matters. > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:29 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: [sig

Re: Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte NC

2006-01-17 Thread Todd Ashworth
Aye. Been here for about 7 years now. On 1/17/06, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't know there was anybody else here in the Charlotte area! > > - Matt ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=

Network Traffic Monitor

2006-01-17 Thread Duane Boudreau
Hi All Does anyone know of a product that I can install on my LAN here at home to log traffic. My wife and I finally acquiesced to our 10 year old daughter's requests for an MSN account for chatting with her school mates. We've set some rules and guidelines but I want to make sure that things stay

Re: So what story SHOULD be made into a movie?

2006-01-17 Thread William Bowen
> What's yours? It doesn't have to be sci-fi. 1. A non-Verheoven (e.g. faithful, worth watching, non-campy) adaptation of Starship Troopers. One with Heinlein's Powered Armor of the M.I. not sleeveless t-shirted "marines" 2. A faithful adaptation of Star Rangers by Andre Norton, for my money one

Re: Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte NC

2006-01-17 Thread Milquetoast Limpet
Well being from Tampa, it would be quite an adjustment routing for the Panthers. But I am sure I can adjust :). Thanks for all the info. On 1/17/06, Todd Ashworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As far as living in Charlotte goes, though ... ~

Re: Making SQL Faster

2006-01-17 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Jillian Koskie wrote: > Using DB2 8... other than obvious security and simplicity benefits > will I see noticeable speed gains if I convert regular queries to > stored procedures? No. > Any other tips (pointing me to resource material to read for myself is > cool too) for inscreasing SQL perf

RE: We'egot A Dog too! w00f!

2006-01-17 Thread Erika L. Walker
Iggy - Italian Greyhound Cheers, Erika -- ##| From: Scott Stewart ##| ##| Iggy = iguana or Italian Greyhound... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:192

Re: Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte NC

2006-01-17 Thread Chesty Puller
I didn't know there was anybody else here in the Charlotte area! - Matt - Original Message - From: "Todd Ashworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte NC >I don't know anything about Garrison En

RE: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:23 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Minority Report > > A good high school buddy of mine was a cameraman on Dune. According to > the shooting script I saw it was slated (and shot)

Re: Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte NC

2006-01-17 Thread Todd Ashworth
I don't know anything about Garrison Enterprises, aside from that they approached me asking if I was still looking for work, so I can't really comment on them. As far as living in Charlotte goes, though ... It's a pretty nice place to live. The traffic can be a pain at times and there has been a

Re: So what story SHOULD be made into a movie?

2006-01-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its already a movie, but would make a great live action piece would be Myazaki's Castle of Cagliostro. How about Tom Hanks as Lupin III and Johnathon Frakes as the Count. larry On 1/17/06, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So we've been talking about how bad (or, rarely, good) a job hollywoo

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
What business does governments have in getting involved in the day to day operations of a company, lets see occupational health, pollution control, individual rights and freedoms, to name a few. larry On 1/17/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So long as they are operating in a legal m

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
If a free market is socially responsible then ecological disasters like Minamata Japan, Love Canal in the US, Bhopal India etc., would not have happened. larry On 1/17/06, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you have too much faith in free market...plus too many things alter > our m

Re: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The first 3/4's were faithful to a great extent to the novella that was serialized in either Galaxy or If (forget which one), and quite faithful to Longyear's novel of the same name. the last quarter sucked canal water it was so bad. larry On 1/17/06, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm

Re: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
A good high school buddy of mine was a cameraman on Dune. According to the shooting script I saw it was slated (and shot) as a 3 hour movie. But the studio insisted it be cut down to just over 90 minutes. From what I remember of the script, the 3 hour version would have been far superior to the rel

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
If you had 10,000 or more employees then yes. Otherwise no. larry On 1/17/06, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a question or thought here... > > I'm own a company, where I am the sole employee. This company spends > nothing on health care. Sure, I could switch health care e

RE: So what story SHOULD be made into a movie?

2006-01-17 Thread Dawson, Michael
Futurama. I hear there is a movie in the works, however. http://imdb.com/title/tt0471711/ M!ke -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:04 PM To: CF-Community Subject: So what story SHOULD be made into a movie? So we've been talking

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
they are individuals and none of them seems the least bit familiar with economic theory. Whether they personally survived is irrelevant. I am making the following point: Subsidizing Wal-Mart is poor economic policy. Ceasing to do so makes sense. ::shrug:: >Of the people that worked there on t

RE: Making SQL Faster

2006-01-17 Thread Dawson, Michael
Make sure the DB developers have created the appropriate indexes on the columns. Many DB2/AS400 developers tend to *not* use indexes as they are accustomed to nightly, batch processing where they don't care if it takes hours to process. We ran into that here. Not a single table had an index for

Re: So what story SHOULD be made into a movie?

2006-01-17 Thread Ray Champagne
> The chances of it being awful are really high but dammit I'd also love to > see an animated "Calvin and Hobbes" movie done by a responsible studio. The > strip is so kinetic and energetic I think it could really work as an > animated work. I'd agree with this. I miss that strip. :(

RE: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:02 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Minority Report > > > I'm not sure about this one (never read the book) but dammit - there are > > some really engrossing books that just make awful m

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
thanks, had forgotten that. Have to keep an appointment, will be back later. Dana >There are 4 companies in MD. They were all listed in the article you posted >originally. > >Wal-Mart, Johns Hopkins, Northrop Grumman, Giant Food > >Wal-mart was the only company that fell below the 8% mark. > >Jo

So what story SHOULD be made into a movie?

2006-01-17 Thread Jim Davis
So we've been talking about how bad (or, rarely, good) a job hollywood's done with many sci-fi movies based on books. But as bad as they get there's always that one story that you still just want to see on the big screen, isn't there? What's yours? It doesn't have to be sci-fi. For me I would l

RE: We'egot A Dog too! w00f!

2006-01-17 Thread Scott Stewart
Ok, I've been trying to follow this all day.. Iggy = iguana or Italian Greyhound... Scott A. Stewart ColdFusion Developer GNSI 11820 Parklawn Dr Rockville, MD 20852 (301) 770-9610 -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006

Re: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Ben Doom
> I'm not sure about this one (never read the book) but dammit - there are > some really engrossing books that just make awful movies (and vice-versa for > what it's worth). Even if they're done well they still suck. ;^) > > Not every great story is great in every medium. Oh, absolutely. I'm j

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Adam Haskell
So we have a free market and I should have faith in it? Adam On 1/17/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, that is where education comes in, and I'm not sure we have time to > talk about that. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sen

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Nick McClure
Of the people that worked there on this list, they seem to disagree with you. > -Original Message- > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:55 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart > > generally, y

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
but see... they aren't behaving in a legal manner, let alone a moral one. >So long as they are operating in a legal manner and are paying the taxes >they are supposed to pay, then what business does the government have >getting involved in the day to day operation. > >IF wal-mart came in requesti

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Nick McClure
There are 4 companies in MD. They were all listed in the article you posted originally. Wal-Mart, Johns Hopkins, Northrop Grumman, Giant Food Wal-mart was the only company that fell below the 8% mark. John Hopkins and Northrop Grumman make sense, it is very important that their employees are abl

Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte NC

2006-01-17 Thread Milquetoast Limpet
Has anyone had any experience working with Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte NC? I am in the Interview process with them and would welcome any opinions on what it is like to work for them. Also any input on living in Charlotte would be welcome too. http://www.garrisonenterprises.net/ Thanks in

RE: We'egot A Dog too! w00f!

2006-01-17 Thread Erika L. Walker
##| how'd you litter box train them? ##| did you crate train them? Both came to us crate trained. Most iggies are very secure and happy in their crates. Spike and Lucy spend all day in theirs as during the work day they aren't allowed to run around. So they cuddle up together and sleep. Of course

Re: Making SQL Faster

2006-01-17 Thread Jillian Koskie
Unfortunately every query in this 'report' contains variables so I don't think caching is going to help... The speed for running this is ridiculous --especially given the horsepower on that DB2 box. > Can you cache any of the queries? That has helped me a LOT. > > Jillian Koskie wrote: > > Us

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Adam Haskell
Honestly my general distast for wal-mart is rooted more towards thier business practices and thier vendor relations than with thier employment practices. Like I said the main reason our company probably doesn't go through as much crap about employement practices as Wal-mart is simple due to us be u

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
generally, yes. In the case of Walmart, there is a good case to be made that the costs to the community exceed the benefit. The individual possibly might be better off if the alternative is unemployment. >OK, so in this case. Say the government makes a deal, and they bring in a >big store, that

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Nick McClure
Does wal-mart get an advantage that other companies don't get? > -Original Message- > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart > > It's true that people work

RE: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:31 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Minority Report > > Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Another SF author that's had a near butcher's job done to him is Barry > > Longyear. Enemy Mine won a Hu

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Nick McClure
Well, that is where education comes in, and I'm not sure we have time to talk about that. > -Original Message- > From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:41 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart > >

RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Nick McClure
So long as they are operating in a legal manner and are paying the taxes they are supposed to pay, then what business does the government have getting involved in the day to day operation. IF wal-mart came in requesting tax breaks, and the government said, ok, but you have to do this, then both si

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
see, I have no problem with that as long as it applies to all companies above the threshold. By the way, I haven't looked it up but I suspect there are at least several companies with more than 10,000 employees... but they provide adequate healthcare benefits. >See, that isn't at all what I th

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
Wal-Mart is not economic growth. >Most of what we are talking about is state and local governments giving them >tax breaks. How is this big government? > >Shouldn't local government try to foster economic growth? > >> ~| Messag

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
It's true that people work there voluntarily, and that in some places they fight over jobs at Wal-Mart, sad as that is. My question is why underwrite them? When you use tax dollars to private advantage you should be very sure that you are promoting the public good imho and this is demonstrably n

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Jeffry Houser
I have a question or thought here... I'm own a company, where I am the sole employee. This company spends nothing on health care. Sure, I could switch health care expenses from personal expenses to the business, but it'd still be less than 8% of profits. Do you (where you is anyone) thi

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread Adam Haskell
I think you have too much faith in free market...plus too many things alter our market to be able to support a free market...PR spins are the first thing. On 1/17/06, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I w2as looking at a broader set of social responsabilty as far as taking > > care of others. stea

Re: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
those are the parts that pissed me off. larry On 1/17/06, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Another SF author that's had a near butcher's job done to him is Barry > > Longyear. Enemy Mine won a Hugo for best novel, and then it was turned > > into an extremely boring

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
ok, here's a simple question... why not? >I try > > > > _ > >From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:02 AM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart > > > >> Nick wrote: >> Because we shouldn't expect anythi

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
fair enough, I'll take another loook in a minute. I am about sure it said net though. >But nothing you posted actually showed real numbers. It showed how much >money in tax breaks was given to wal-mart, but they never showed how much in >taxes wal-mart paid back.

Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
::sigh:: OK, I need a rule. >> Dana wrote: >>couple billion in taxes not collected and costs borne by the >community, this is not a handout? > >No. Here's why: > >If I offer to sell you a car for 20% below market cost because I need >to get rid of the burden fast, is that a handout to you? No.

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2006-01-17 Thread Todd Ashworth
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Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart

2006-01-17 Thread dana tierney
no. > (1.) You, Larry, and others feel that because a business is > successful, agents of the government should be able to force it to > help solve social problems. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:19

Re: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Ben Doom
Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Another SF author that's had a near butcher's job done to him is Barry > Longyear. Enemy Mine won a Hugo for best novel, and then it was turned > into an extremely boring movie. Actually, if you stop watching before the added parts (kidnapping, the literal mine, etc.) it's

Re: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Ben Doom
> I'm confused by "Fantastic Voyage"... I know that Asimov wrote the book, but > but Jerome Bixby is credited with the story for the movie... but it was a > decent film. Asimov did the novelization of the film. He was so disapointed in the result, he wrote a sequel whose preface included an apol

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2006-01-17 Thread Todd Ashworth
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Re: Minority Report

2006-01-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Fantastic Planet and Light Years were French. I didn'tknow he was involved in the novels though. As for Fantastic Voyage, I think Asimov only did the novelization. Forgot to mention, Arthur C. Clarke had a much better record with movies. Both 2001 and 2010 were very good adaptations of the books.

Re: Making SQL Faster

2006-01-17 Thread Ray Champagne
Can you cache any of the queries? That has helped me a LOT. Jillian Koskie wrote: > Using DB2 8... other than obvious security and simplicity benefits will I see > noticeable speed gains if I convert regular queries to stored procedures? > > Any other tips (pointing me to resource material to r

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