Re: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Tony
i cannot disagree nick. you know, at least we geeks are passionate about some shit! and navtrak loves coldfusion, trusts coldfusion, and has built its entire web application around coldfusion :) we have ..NET for our backend and our client software. but the reporting aspect of our company is co

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
Nah, I'm going to stick with because we are all arrogant pricks, that live their life being second guessed by management only to end up being right, but still never getting to say I told you so. > -Original Message- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 25,

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 12:25 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Why is coldfusion better. > > i know, but without fail it strikes a chord EVERY TIME! > and not just for one of us. why does it strike so hard? Proba

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
Tech Ego. People in IT hate to be wrong. > -Original Message- > From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 12:25 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Why is coldfusion better. > > i know, but without fail it strikes a chord EVERY TIME! > and not just for one

Re: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Tony
its what i used to do for a living when i was 21-24. in fact it is how and why i got into the web ;) i managed a hardcore/alternashred kinda band, did sound too, and basically did all i could on a weekly basis to keep the scene 'round these parts going. fist was our band name. they fucking rocke

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
Well, maybe, but then the next question comes in. Take two programmers, one that knows CF but not .NET, and one that knows ..NET but not CF. I like CF, it is great for a lot of things. There are a lot of things it isn't great for. But what hurts the pro CF side by saying that .NET doesn't have t

Re: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
My problem was always being a suburban punk in oxfords and docksiders (in the late 70s early 80s), with glasses and a love of computers. Nerds and punk did not go together well at that time. I loved the scene, but never had the respect I needed to do anything for it. Usually my friends did, so I

Re: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Tony
i know, but without fail it strikes a chord EVERY TIME! and not just for one of us. why does it strike so hard? tw On 1/24/06, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know, big deal, who really gives a crap about what language you program > in? If you do CF, good for you. If you do .NET

Re: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Ray Champagne
Damn, Jerry, I thought I was reading Tony Robbins for a few minutes there. :) Good ideas, man. And I have virtually no interest in the punk scene whatsoever. Jerry Johnson wrote: > First, I can't recommend any book more highly than The Tipping Point > right now. Get it. Read it. Think about it

Re: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Chesty Puller
You know, big deal, who really gives a crap about what language you program in? If you do CF, good for you. If you do .NET, great for you. If you do Java, really great for you, you make the most money. I mean, this whole conversation is so 1999. - Matt ~~~

Re: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
First, I can't recommend any book more highly than The Tipping Point right now. Get it. Read it. Think about it. Good stuff. Next, when I say radio, I don't neccessarily mean traditional broadcast radio. I know that is not where I find my stuff (and haven't for two decades). But there are places a

RE: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Loathe
Cool, I'll try. BTW the reason I asked if it was nice was the opposite of what you were thinking. If it's "nice" we probably wouldn't want to be there, the regulars prolly wouldn't care for us all to much. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent:

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
Filewatching and the like wasn't something I ever needed to do. I guess what confuses me most, and why I never could get the reference is why you would use CF and all the services involved to integrate with an OS level function that can fire triggers. As for .NET, I learned it after using CF. I

RE: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Scott Stewart
He has a lot of Death Metal shows there... if that tells ya anything. I've bee to and played in worse shitholes. Another place to try is Wilmer's Park in Brandywine MD, it's a long shot and I don't even know if they're still open. ...make sure you tell him that it's not a bunch of neo-nazis, unf

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:09 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him... > > If the guys sitting next to me on a bar stool and talks like that then > It's not likely I'd make it

RE: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Loathe
I don't mind doing it here, we can take it off list if it pisses anyone off. Also some other people might have suggestions. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:58 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: FW: Show Promot

Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Sam
I agree and I think of it as therapy for everyone involved. I don't want to bottle it in and go home and kick the dog :) If someone says something that really deserves a beat down then administering one to him is for his own good, and oh how it relieves stress. It'll make him a better-behaved perso

RE: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Loathe
Is it a "nice" place? The name of the show right now is "Skinhead Revolt" Hardcore and Street Punk/Oi! from up and down the east coast. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:35 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: FW

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Well its like watching a directory via a gateway service to see if a file is modified, deleted or renamed etc. Very handy stuff, when you're printing reports via spool on a server print job server. And you are a .Net programmer, that is one of the first things learned when developing in the .Net l

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Yes but by the time you investigate the best option for you, time wasted and then waste time trying to intergrate it into your application to find out it doesn't do what your looking for time wasted, then you have to write facades or code API to talk to these 3rd party tools, time wasted and I bet

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Andrew Jackson III
:: pukes :: On 1/24/06, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i still celebrate the exact date/time we consummated our first time... > she doesn't... > > i think that "when" we became a couple. > not when we started seeing each other. > dating > engaged > or married > > its the deed, not the

RE: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Engaged: March 12th 2004. Married: June 17th 2005 on the beach in St. Lucia. Nothing else matters :-) > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:45 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: No turning back now... > > so between

Re: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
Do you mind doing this in public, or do you want to go private? Qs: Do you need to pay for the venue? How much? Do you need to pay for the bands? How much? Same venue each week, or do you plan to be floating between a few? How many hours do you see a show lasting? What time do you see the show sta

Re: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Tony
jaxx is fun. saw kitty, motorgrater and hard sell there one night not too long ago. my friend wade's band guerrilla transmission used to play there ALL THE TIME. tw On 1/24/06, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tim, > > Talk to Jay Nedry at Jaxx. He *might* be open to a local punk show

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
so between all that rush of activity when did you propose to your SO? either that or its a case of when yah gotta go... On 1/24/06, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 6:11 AM - I arrived at work. > 4:30 PM - I left work. > 5:15 PM - I took a shit. > > How's that? :-) > > > > From: L

RE: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hmmm...it was cold, so it must have been winterI know it > was in early 2003...man I hope this subject never comes up > around my wife. :) Ray, all that matters is that you went to St. Lucia and are married.. end of story. Speaking of which

RE: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
6:11 AM - I arrived at work. 4:30 PM - I left work. 5:15 PM - I took a shit. How's that? :-) > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sept 9, 1987 when we (Wendy and I first met), Dec 18 of 1989 > when I proposed, and August 17 at 4:57 when we said I do. > > Sept 8,1993, the day I t

Re: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
But I was about to answer you. What do you need to know? Specifically Punk shows, or general questions, or just DC related info? (I know people in all sections of the industry, and know people who know people) On 1/24/06, Tim Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Too many email addresses. > > Tim H

RE: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Scott Stewart
Tim, Talk to Jay Nedry at Jaxx. He *might* be open to a local punk show. He's gonna give you the caveat "provided my club doesn't get trashed." He's done "mainstream punk" shows (Misfits, Jello Biafra) sas Scott A. Stewart ColdFusion Developer GNSI 11820 Parklawn Dr Rockville, MD 20852 (301)

Tuesday Evening Joke

2006-01-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
A man enters a bar and orders a drink. The bar has a robot bartender. The robot serves him a perfectly prepared cocktail, and then asks him, "What's your IQ?" The man replies, "150" and the robot proceeds to make conversation about global warming factors, quantum physics and spirituality, biomimi

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Sept 9, 1987 when we (Wendy and I first met), Dec 18 of 1989 when I proposed, and August 17 at 4:57 when we said I do. Sept 8,1993, the day I told my dissertation committee to go screw themselves. How's that. larry On 1/24/06, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i still celebrate the exact

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I thought that was the wedding ring, not the cake that was the antidote. regardless, congrat Jacob. Enjoy the adventure. larry On 1/24/06, Dawson, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and wedding cake is the perfect antidote for good sex. > > -Original Message- > From: Ray Champagne

RE: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Tim Heald
Ok, I have a few ideas for venues. I have a web server that I am not really using right now, I just need to blow it out and take all the extras off of it so it can speed up. I have the bands. I know the audience. Building a community would be good, we practically have to drag people out to sh

Re: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
So, do you need info on: Finding a venue? Finding bands/acts? Getting press? Getting the word out? Raising money/donated services? Finding your audience? Building a community? Is this a one-time event, a recurring event, a sporadic event? How big? (people, bands, money) How much help will you have

RE: FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Tim Heald
All of the above, or below as the case. > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:34 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: FW: Show Promotions > > But I was about to answer you. > > What do you need to know? Specifically Punk

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Tony
oh yeah. as married dude. i have to say. if you still love her do not do it. if you want to still love her do not do it. if you want to have sex for a long time do not do it just kidding really. but i was told this, by EVERY MARRIED MAN i know... and it has to be done. now, go get on yer knee and

FW: Show Promotions

2006-01-24 Thread Tim Heald
Too many email addresses. Tim Heald [EMAIL PROTECTED] ColdFusion Developer Signal Solutions, Inc Work : 202-224-1224 Cell : 703-765-0618 > -Original Message- > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:22 PM > To: 'cf-community@houseoffusion.com'

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
See. You planned ahead and made sure you couldn't forget. Nice job! On 1/24/06, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it was the most extravagant day, it was killer... it was dec 1 2001 > not too many days after 9/11, not too many days after devcon01 > and exactly one year to the day from the day of o

RE: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Erika L. Walker
Congrats!! :D Cheers, Erika ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:194164 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Uns

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Paul Ihrig
i still celebrate the exact date/time we consummated our first time... she doesn't... i think that "when" we became a couple. not when we started seeing each other. dating engaged or married its the deed, not the symbol of the deed. but then again...

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Tony
it was the most extravagant day, it was killer... it was dec 1 2001 not too many days after 9/11, not too many days after devcon01 and exactly one year to the day from the day of our first kiss. i know this date. date 2. the wedding date, easier than shit. i turned 30 three days later. 6.7.3 if i

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Tony
say no more BROTHA! On 1/24/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > whoa whoa whoa! I think you may have this a little backwards, Ben. The > /promise/ of a ring preserves a woman's body, sex drive, sense of humor, > etc. The ring itself, once on her finger, preserves none of those things

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Ray Champagne
Oh, man, now you've gotten me paranoid. Hmmm...it was cold, so it must have been winterI know it was in early 2003...man I hope this subject never comes up around my wife. :) Jerry Johnson wrote: > Hey, man, I'm just guessing. I am still overwhelmingly single. The > closest thing I have to

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
OK, yeah, there are tons of stuff out there for that. > -Original Message- > From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:57 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Why is coldfusion better. > > No he's talking about MX 7 gateway events. Like SMS and IM. >

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
Database interactions, yes, no problem. PDF, there are free things out there, and there are some pay for things. SQL Server includes some pretty cool tools to do PDF reports, Word Reports, and stuff like that. Flash Paper, no, but I don't even know what that is. > -Original Message- > Fr

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
Hey, man, I'm just guessing. I am still overwhelmingly single. The closest thing I have to an anniversary is the day I was forced to go "look at" rings by a girldfriend. The day never goes by without a cold shiver running down my spine. But, I have seen many friends flayed (my brother-in-law for o

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
http://www.fluentconsulting.com/components/Fluent.Toc/ Here is a free AOL gateway after a minute or two of searching. I also found MSN and google talk. What is filewatching? > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:24 PM > To

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Tim Heald
I couldn't agree more. > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:46 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him... > > Yep. It is illegal. But if you follow the courts at all, you > wi

Re: CSS (Sorta) Select elements with too-wide text

2006-01-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
When it gets that long, and you absolutely need to show the entire text, break it up into multiple lines in the select box, all having the full text in the value field, and giving it some sort of indent or symbol on all but the first line to show that it is a broken/wrapped line. On 1/24/06, Jim D

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Tim Heald
No he's talking about MX 7 gateway events. Like SMS and IM. > -Original Message- > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:13 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Why is coldfusion better. > > I'm not sure the amount of code is that different. >

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Ray Champagne
who celebrates their engagement? i mean, we did *mention* it, but after the wedding, the big day overtakes the kneel down day. Jerry Johnson wrote: > So, if I ask her before then, I can get by with a much cheaper ring. > (Speed can somewhat overwhelm cost in this equation). Thanks for the > warn

Re: CSS (Sorta) Select elements with too-wide text

2006-01-24 Thread Kevin Graeme
I generally have a good cry. Then find some way to do it that isn't a select box. On 1/24/06, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you guys deal with this? > > Jim Davis > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/l

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
So, if I ask her before then, I can get by with a much cheaper ring. (Speed can somewhat overwhelm cost in this equation). Thanks for the warning. What was her number again? But seriously, congrats. Did you think, though, how valentine's day and the day you asked are going to get you in serious t

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Tim Heald
So you can do PDF, rd and flash paper reports native in .Net? Database interactions? Flash Remoting? All for free? > -Original Message- > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:07 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Why is coldfusion better. >

Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
Yep. It is illegal. But if you follow the courts at all, you will see that popping a guy in the nose for patently offensive speech is often if not usually forgiven by prosecuters and jurors. If not, then the person doing the hitting has to accept the consequences of their actions. I don't think t

CSS (Sorta) Select elements with too-wide text

2006-01-24 Thread Jim Davis
I've "solved" this problem in the past in various ways, but never really satisfactorily. You've got a nice layout, all done and gorgeous. Now you start fetching data to populate your select boxes, everything works fine. Then somebody goes and adds a value five times longer than any other in the

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Not smtp. Gateways!! Like filewatching, IM's etc. Regards Andrew Scott Analyst Programmer CMS Transport Systems Level 2/33 Bank Street South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205 Phone: 03 9699 7988 - Fax: 03 9699 7976 Quote: the myth of socialism is far stronger than the reality of capitalism. Th

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Jacob Kisner
I always though pizza... On 1/24/06, Dawson, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and wedding cake is the perfect antidote for good sex. > > -Original Message- > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:16 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re:

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Jacob Kisner
Very sweet! On 1/24/06, Dawson, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now, wait. You are going to marry someone that might not know how to > Google? She must be pretty sweet! > > M!ke > > -Original Message- > From: Jacob Kisner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006

RE: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Dawson, Michael
and wedding cake is the perfect antidote for good sex. -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:16 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: No turning back now... > > This is why I keep my GF in the freezer -- she'll last longer tha

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Ray Champagne
> > This is why I keep my GF in the freezer -- she'll last longer that way. > > But I'm told a ring makes a great preservative whoa whoa whoa! I think you may have this a little backwards, Ben. The /promise/ of a ring preserves a woman's body, sex drive, sense of humor, etc. The ring it

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
I'm not sure the amount of code is that different. With the .NET stuff I have done, a lot of it used far less code that comparable CF stuff. I guess my question is what do you mean by sending a message to the gateway. You mean creating an email and sending to the SMTP server? > -Original Mes

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Andrew Scott
That was an intranet application were we came up with the same story of why not J2EE, our answer was simple it is a J2EE application running on a J2EE server. Regards Andrew Scott Analyst Programmer CMS Transport Systems Level 2/33 Bank Street South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205 Phone: 03 9699 7988

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Ben Doom
Jacob Kisner wrote: > side. God, I spoiled her...LOL This is why I keep my GF in the freezer -- she'll last longer that way. But I'm told a ring makes a great preservative :-) --Ben ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.co

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
It does only say Congress shall make now law > -Original Message- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:50 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him... > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jerry

RE: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Dawson, Michael
Now, wait. You are going to marry someone that might not know how to Google? She must be pretty sweet! M!ke -Original Message- From: Jacob Kisner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:08 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: No turning back now... Just in case she do

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Andrew Scott
I am talking about the amount of code needed to do the job. And API's like the tags to send a message to the gateway. Regards Andrew Scott Analyst Programmer CMS Transport Systems Level 2/33 Bank Street South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205 Phone: 03 9699 7988 - Fax: 03 9699 7976 Quote: the m

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
I'm pretty sure kick the shit out of somebody is illegal somewhere else. I could be wrong. > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:16 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him... >

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
I'm up for a good ass kickin' > -Original Message- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:16 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him... > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EM

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
Yup, that is why this is the greatest country in the world. > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:11 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him... > > My point is, the people that h

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
I didn't think you could completely migrate it if it takes advantage of the resources in CF Server. Like the web service and DB mapping stuff. > -Original Message- > From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:33 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Why is

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Jacob Kisner
Just in case she does know how to google, I wont post it until after I ask her. But, if that is the case, now she would know my plan...LOL On 1/24/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey, that's awesome. Do we get to see the ring? > > Jacob Kisner wrote: > > Well.. last night, I put

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
I could make that argument 3 years ago, but not today. Even with ASP, as far as my regular tasks, the things I did on a daily basis in CF, there was nothing I couldn't do in ASP with the exception of file uploads. And that was solved for far less than the cost of CF. > -Original Message-

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
Well, that works if you are hosting the site in house. If I'm providing an App to a company that will host it at their location, then that won't work. > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:21 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject:

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
Can you give me a few examples of the APIs you are talking about? What type of master/detail DB interaction are you talking about in regards to .NET that doesn't exist? > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:09 PM > To: CF-

RE: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:54 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: No turning back now... > > Hey, that's awesome. Do we get to see the ring? Naw - com'on! Let her see it first. ;^) Jim Davis

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Paul Ihrig
congrats... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:194126 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.ho

RE: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Jacob Kisner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:51 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: No turning back now... > > Well.. last night, I put money down on a ring. Feb 18th is when I am > going > to ask her to marry me in San Francisco. O

Re: No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Ray Champagne
Hey, that's awesome. Do we get to see the ring? Jacob Kisner wrote: > Well.. last night, I put money down on a ring. Feb 18th is when I am going > to ask her to marry me in San Francisco. > > The ring is white gold, 1 ct pink sapphire with 2 1/2 ct diamonds on the > side. God, I spoiled her...

No turning back now...

2006-01-24 Thread Jacob Kisner
Well.. last night, I put money down on a ring. Feb 18th is when I am going to ask her to marry me in San Francisco. The ring is white gold, 1 ct pink sapphire with 2 1/2 ct diamonds on the side. God, I spoiled her...LOL :) ~|

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:16 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him... > > No. Freedom of speech means that the the GOVERNMENT will not restrict > your right to say s

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Tim Heald
I have a much easier time listening this guys garbage than some treasonous National Socialist or Commie garbage. I mean his at least falls under dissent. > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:35 PM > To: CF-Community > S

Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
+100 Unfortunately many do not understand that concept. While I do not like much of what this person says, he has a right to say it without threat of getting the shi** beaten out of him. btw in case anyone would claim differently I'd say the same if the person was advocating some neo-nazi right w

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Tim Heald
Well, as long as it's CF 7, and you can migrate the byte code, you're not really fibbing right? > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:21 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Why is coldfusion better. > > Nick, > > We had

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Tim Heald
This is a very good point. You get a ton of extra stuff out of the box that you don't get elsewhere. Ben Forta a while back did a cost comparison between CF and what it would cost to build an ASP (there was no .Net yet) server that could do everything that CF could and it would have cost like 80,

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Tim Heald
I'll take the assault charge, already have a lawyer for some other charges. > -Original Message- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:05 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him... > > > -Original M

Re: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Kevin Graeme
Nail. Head. Whack. Choosing a language is rarely done in a vacuum. There is no "best", and "better" is only able to be decided based on what external factors there are. CF is good at RAD. But a project done RAD is rarely something you want to support and build on top of for the next five or ten y

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Tim Heald
We are getting good medical care when we get back. Parades are useful. In fighting depression, guilt and PTSD. I'm fighting all three right now at different points. Listen, we should stand behind those that are willing to serve. Most of the people I went away with enlisted before or shortly af

Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
Doesn't matter. It is the one power I retain in America these days. I can't kick his butt for a number of reasons (for example, he is 3000 miles away), and I don't think this rises to butt-kicking level. Drink in the faces? Maybe. I've done exactly the same thing to CNN whenever Bob Novak is on, a

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Nick, We had the same problem with a major client, so the thing is that we told a small fib by a technical means only. We told them that the application will be deployed on a J2EE server running java code. We didn't tell them that the code was written using Coldfusion, or don't people think that w

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Tim Heald
"But blaming the president is a little too easy. The truth is that people who pull triggers are ultimately responsible, whether they're following orders or not. An army of people making individual moral choices may be inefficient, but an army of people ignoring their morality is horrifying. An arm

Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
No. Freedom of speech means that the the GOVERNMENT will not restrict your right to say something. It does not say that you can say something and be free of reprisals, just that you will be free from reprisals from your government. Saying something and getting the shit kicked out of you is perfec

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:08 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him... > > Quiet down, Jim, or we'll kick yer ass, too. :) Hey - you'll need more than you guys to d

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Kevin Schmidt
My point is, the people that he isn't supporting, are the people who give him the right to have the monkey feces he calls an article printed. -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:08 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: This guy need

RE: Why is coldfusion better.

2006-01-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Adam As stated in other posts your question is fact and not fiction. For example as the sys-con article says CF comes with out of the box solutions, so let's look at gateways for example. How long would you think it would take a .Net developer to write the same API that coldfusion has built in, o

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Nick McClure
I'm sure target or the others didn't know their ads would be placed on that page. > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:13 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him... > > I contac

Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Ray Champagne
Quiet down, Jim, or we'll kick yer ass, too. :) Jim Davis wrote: >>-Original Message- >>From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:45 PM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him... >> >>But you don't need to defend his rig

RE: CF Programmer needed!! (Silver Spring, MD)

2006-01-24 Thread Tim Heald
With all that I am hoping you are paying 90,000 plus. > -Original Message- > From: Brenna Flynn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:35 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: CF Programmer needed!! (Silver Spring, MD) > > Abacus Technology Corporation, a mid-sized defe

RE: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him...

2006-01-24 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:45 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: This guy needs to get the shit beat out of him... > > But you don't need to defend his right to say itbecause he's already > said it, and it was printed

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2006-01-24 Thread Adkins, Randy
I have finally got tired of the CTRL-SHIFT-BACKARROW key taking me to a cache page or something called Internet Way Back. How can I change that??? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:194103 Archives: htt

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