Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-29 Thread Dinner
I think Gruss is just honoring All-hallow-even, chill'n under the bridge. To do my bit: Am I going to be the first one to bring God into it? (God looks up from a game of air-hockey, all, like "what?"). Intelligence, and, indeed, consciousness- hell, even this [insert term] we call Reality- Are

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-29 Thread Chesty Puller
So you're avoiding the question. Additionally, you're suggesting that it's a "crime against humanity" and unethical to propose a theory that there may be genetic differences with regards to intelligence between the races whether or not it may have a basis in fact (evolution). This is the very de

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>So the real question is: are you saying it's not probable, or it's >impossible? What I am saying is that the data does not support the hypothesis that there is a racial basic for intellectual differences. Personally I think that what differences that are attributable to so called racial diff

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>> Dana wrote: >> no it is not what you just said. Cystic fibrosis is a quantifiable >> trait. Football team choice and intelligence are not. >> > >Intelligence isn't quantifiable? As I've suggested, I would say it's >capacity and speed of learning. You could easily quantify that. I >guess I'm n

The Witcher PC Game - Beautiful RPG, very very beautiful.

2007-10-29 Thread Vivec
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Re: Any Top Gear Fans Here?

2007-10-29 Thread Andrew Grosset
Just brilliant (as usual) - 5 stars >If you are, you'll like this 10 min video of Jeremy Clarkson's >personal car which, as discovered on the video, is "gay, but fast" > >http://youtube.com/watch?v=UMzfl3N4f6I ~| ColdFusion is d

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread William Bowen
> Crude approximations are, in fact, possible. And they are considered as scientifically accurate as 1930s Popular Mechanics articles about the "World of Tomorrow" and the widespread use of personal gyro-copters by 1985... > Take a moment to view > this video of the World of tomorrow: pure specu

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> WillBo wrote: > Since evolution is not predictive (and it isn't) how is a projection > like this "sound science"? > Crude approximations are, in fact, possible. Take a moment to view this video of the World of tomorrow: http://www.autojunk.nl/clips/view/132707 (possibly NSFW) ~~~

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread Sam
That would cost your group a lot of dollar bills :) On 10/29/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ian wrote: > > Gruss couldn't care less where the attractive skin color and breast shape > > comes from, just as long as he gets to view them. > > I would just that statement a little bit by

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread William Bowen
> To be fair, they way I read these posts, Gruss couldn't care less where the > attractive skin > color and breast shape comes from, just as long as he gets to view them. yeah, prolly true... -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Car

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread William Bowen
> i believe those features shake out during random multicultural breeding. yeah, except they don't. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| ColdFusion

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Ian wrote: > Gruss couldn't care less where the attractive skin color and breast shape > comes from, just as long as he gets to view them. I would just that statement a little bit by adding "everyday" to the end. ~| Enterprise

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread Tony
i believe those features shake out during random multicultural breeding. tw On 10/29/07, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not to make a serious point or anything But there may be some sound > > science to the skin color do to the ever increasing rates of > > multi-cultural parent

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread Ian Skinner
(and Gruss' assertion by extension) To be fair, they way I read these posts, Gruss couldn't care less where the attractive skin color and breast shape comes from, just as long as he gets to view them. ~| Create robust enterp

Re: Girardi!!!

2007-10-29 Thread Tony
he played with like 6 or so of the current roster. should be cool tw On 10/29/07, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had to look it up - but yea, it would appear so. Girardi was with the > yanks from like 95-99, and mariano started in 95. so one would have to > assume that he caught m

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread William Bowen
> Not to make a serious point or anything But there may be some sound > science to the skin color do to the ever increasing rates of > multi-cultural parents. Yes you're right, which is exactly what I was saying. The problem here is that Curry's assertion (and Gruss' assertion by extension) i

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread Tony
i have a theory about all of this, and its exactly along the lines of this article. and my niece who is of 7 diff nationalities black and american indian included, is far prettier than a lot of her full white counterparts, and im not sayin just because she is the melting pot chick, just bein real

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread Ian Skinner
"... coffee-skin,but where again does the "sound science" come into play? Not to make a serious point or anything But there may be some sound science to the skin color do to the ever increasing rates of multi-cultural parents. That eventually a large percentage of humanity may have wide v

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread William Bowen
> I'm gonna stick to my guns on the pert breasts and coffee-colored hairless > skin. good luck with your sticky gun then... *ahem* so since you brought up "sound science"--riddle me this, batsman: Since evolution is not predictive (and it isn't) how is a projection like this "sound science"?

Re: Girardi!!!

2007-10-29 Thread Crow T. Robot
I had to look it up - but yea, it would appear so. Girardi was with the yanks from like 95-99, and mariano started in 95. so one would have to assume that he caught mariano. On 10/29/07, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This should be interesting...did Girardi catch Rivera? I forget when h

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Greg wrote: > Oddly.. in the drawing of the evolution of man, the final image looks > like that Mad TV character Ms Swan... "he look like a man!" > I tell you ev-re-ting! http://youtube.com/watch?v=6Q8uoRO2LFw ~| Create robus

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> WillBo wrote: > http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/10/utter_nonsense.php > > and the link I was looking for regarding the idiocy linked to below. > I'm gonna stick to my guns on the pert breasts and coffee-colored hairless skin. ~

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread Greg Morphis
Oddly.. in the drawing of the evolution of man, the final image looks like that Mad TV character Ms Swan... "he look like a man!" On 10/29/07, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/10/utter_nonsense.php > > and the link I was looking for regarding the i

Re: Girardi!!!

2007-10-29 Thread G Money
This should be interesting...did Girardi catch Rivera? I forget when he retired from the Yanks.. On 10/29/07, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > well, as a red sox fan, this is probably not a good thing for my team, but > it *was* a smart move. > > On 10/29/07, G Money <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Human Race To Split

2007-10-29 Thread William Bowen
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/10/utter_nonsense.php and the link I was looking for regarding the idiocy linked to below. > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacce

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-29 Thread Ian Skinner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Personal responsibility is paramount in this world. If the people > want to 'stay and see', or 'stay and fight', they should have that > right. And the rest of us should have the right to have the > firefighters who should be fighting the fire, not the homeowner, to

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That is the downside of living in a society that believes that the group knows whats best for the individual, even to the point of 'force'. Personally, I think the people in charge of the evacuations should have a 'system'. 1. Announce the evacuations in one wave. 2. Go back (this they do a

Re: Girardi!!!

2007-10-29 Thread Crow T. Robot
well, as a red sox fan, this is probably not a good thing for my team, but it *was* a smart move. On 10/29/07, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Holy cow, they offered it to Girardigreat hire by the Yanks, in my > opinion: > > http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3085167&; > > -- >

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-29 Thread Chesty Puller
So the real question is: are you saying it's not probable, or it's impossible? - Original Message - From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: Re: AYFKM? >>> Dana wrote: >>> I don't think that the answer is for people

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-29 Thread Robert Munn
what are you so sour about? On 10/25/07, Dana wrote: > > actually -- a lot of them did not. Some of the early news stories were > talking about the fire-fighting beng hampered by having to forcibly > evacuate > people. > ~| Cold

Girardi!!!

2007-10-29 Thread G Money
Holy cow, they offered it to Girardigreat hire by the Yanks, in my opinion: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3085167&; -- Skating away on the thin ice of a new day ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discus

Need CF / PHP Expert for Consult

2007-10-29 Thread T Burke
I have a client who purchased a e-commerce site built in PHP. He retained my company to 'freshen' the look, upon which we found many security and data issues. We issued a lengthy report on the state of the site purchased, but the client would like another opinion that corroborates or disagrees w

Re: Red Sox Win!

2007-10-29 Thread Crow T. Robot
yea, that pretty sums up what I felt. I just wish the Fox team would have just mentioned it, then in as classy a way possible, just let it go for another day. It just wasn't the place or time, and the money-gubbing b*tch Boras ended up getting his big story. But, this _is_ Fox, I guess, Boras is

Re: Red Sox Win!

2007-10-29 Thread Tony
buster olney's take is prolly the best ive seen http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=olney_buster&id=3084735 funny shit. tw On 10/29/07, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Girardi. > > And what's up with A-Rod announcing his free agency status in the middle of > the dam

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>> Dana wrote: >> I don't think that the answer is for people to study up on the culture >> they are written to. Cultural diversity is as valuable as genetic >> diversity imho. >> > >The answer to what? > >All I'm saying is that the Dr. Watson dude probably has seen all kinds >of data suggesting th

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>> Dana wrote: >> about every else here whose family doesn't -- are they stupid? Are you >> really saying there is no such thing as cultural bias in an IQ test? >> > >What I'm saying makes much more sense: > >(1.) "intelligence" is 100% determined by genetics. First define intelligence. BTW the d

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2007-10-29 Thread Robert Munn
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Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Chesty wrote: > So you're saying that if definitions were applied to these metrics, you > would be fine with it? I don't buy it. > > There are 2 issues: 1.) How do we best define human intelligence? How do we best test and measure it? 2.) Is it possible that skin color, or any other trait, is

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-29 Thread Judah McAuley
Chesty Puller wrote: > Wait a second... > > I'm saying it's true or it ain't. But with the number of evolution > arguments I've seen on this list (in regards to ID), I just don't see how a > person could believe in evolution and then turn around and discredit the > notion that subspecies might

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-29 Thread Chesty Puller
So you're saying that if definitions were applied to these metrics, you would be fine with it? I don't buy it. - Original Message - From: "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 10:38 AM Subject: Re: AYFKM? > Matt > > No because "race" is not a si

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-29 Thread Dana
Matt No because "race" is not a single trait. It covers skin tone, eyecolor, eye shape, hair texture and probably more. Intelligence is also probably not a single trait, even if we limit ourselves to the type of intelligence that is measured on IQ tests. that said, I feel like I am starting to re

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-29 Thread Chesty Puller
Wait a second... I'm saying it's true or it ain't. But with the number of evolution arguments I've seen on this list (in regards to ID), I just don't see how a person could believe in evolution and then turn around and discredit the notion that subspecies might be able to be classified by inte

Re: Red Sox Win!

2007-10-29 Thread Crow T. Robot
A paltry $9 million. I would love to see the man back at 3rd for the Sox this year too, but: he is a free agent this year he is the WS MVP, and team batting champ, which will drive up his price the sox will do that classic "we set a worth on every player" and it will be slightly lower than mark

Re: Red Sox Win!

2007-10-29 Thread G Money
You mean any more self centered than declaring that $25 million dollars a year is not enough money? I think it would be awesome if every single team snubbed their noses at Boras. How much was Mike Lowell making this year He's twice the player A-Rod is. On 10/29/07, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Red Sox Win!

2007-10-29 Thread Crow T. Robot
Girardi. And what's up with A-Rod announcing his free agency status in the middle of the damn World Series? Can this man be any more self-centered? On 10/29/07, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/29/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I ain't no baseball expert - I

Re: Red Sox Win!

2007-10-29 Thread G Money
Who it SHOULD be: Joe Girardi. Who it WILL be: Don Mattingly. I really, really, really wanted Girardi to get hired as the Royals manager...but apparently he was holding out hope for the Yankees job. On 10/29/07, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/29/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: 8 years ago...

2007-10-29 Thread G Money
My "eureka" gaming moment was still the first time I turned off my 2600, hopped on my bike and rode over to my buddy's house to play this new fangled machine called a "Nintendo". We played Super Mario Brothers non stop for hoursonly to find that the "princess was in another castle". On 10/27/

Re: Red Sox Win!

2007-10-29 Thread Casey Dougall
On 10/29/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I ain't no baseball expert - I barely watched the series - but from > what I saw Boston dominated. It looks like a dynasty to me. While I'm disgusted at the notion of the Redsuxs wining, it's a blessing as it means they could announce the n