Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Bruce Sorge
You really believe that? When was the last time you actually stood face to face with an Iraqi who remembers quite vividly what life was like during the Saddam era? I am fortunate that I get this opportunity almost every day. And I am not talking about the average Joe on the street. I also have the

Re: Citibank bailout

2008-11-24 Thread Cameron Childress
Yes - and apparently buying a condo drops your score 40 pts or so... :) -Cameron On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you can be quoted on that. > a client in my past was a product called "Score Wizard" > and you can DEF see changes over a month or two, if you > get

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Maureen
A neck like butter is exactly how the BF described the PRS when he first played it. I like the action a lot. It's a sweet guitar. I'm going to visit the Eastern Shore soon. Maybe I should see if they will give a factory tour. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Tony
prs' are actually made on the shore in a place in stevensville :) our old guitarist for the first band i was a manager for, FIST, was an employee there... not only did he make amazing guitars but his hands played that thing like they were on butter yo! like fo REALz -- tony Better than a thousan

Re: Citibank bailout

2008-11-24 Thread Tony
you can be quoted on that. a client in my past was a product called "Score Wizard" and you can DEF see changes over a month or two, if you get them to up the bal's -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:38 PM,

might not be news...

2008-11-24 Thread Tony
http://lifehacker.com/509/lunascape-is-firefox-chrome-and-internet-explorer-rolled-into-one neat implementation -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama ~| Adobe® Co

Re: Citibank bailout

2008-11-24 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > more the outlying credit vs the unused credit. Yup. How much is available to you vs what you are using > keep them below 50% of their available > as a general rule, then wittle away the remaining. Indeed - Don't quote me on this

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
Got to say I cannot think of many statements I disagree with it more. It is like saying "we lost 5 firefighters in that building fighting that fire. Send in all the rest." On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you commit troops to combat you should be making

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Maureen
I'm mostly a bassist too, although I can play some guitar. I have a 1964 Fender Jazz Bass, an Epiphone P Bass copy, and a Fender BD-29 Acoustic Bass. I collect guitars, too many to list - but my primaries are a 2006 American Series Telecaster, a 1965 Gibson B-25 acoustic, and my prize - a 1977 s

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Maureen
A black Paul Reid Smith Custom 24 Guitar. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WHAT???you bought the boyfriend what??? > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I bought the boyfriend a PRS Custom 24 last summer. He already h

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Paul Ihrig
parents knew a guy at a pawn shop from church.i received a Rickenbacker for my 14th? birthday... it had like 4 coats of paint on it. and the most beautiful wood finish at the bottom of it all. action was always too hi. probably a fake... ~~

RE: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Rick
I have an Ibanez I bought new in 1982 and an American Fender Stratocaster I got from my grandfather when he died. But I am really a bassists, I have an Ibanez and Conklin but my favorite is my Geddy Lee Fender Jazz. But Conklins are pretty nice! http://www.conklinguitars.com/index.html Rick ---

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
You're still praying for failure! Obama won, the Dems won, we don't need failure to get them elected anymore. Snap out of it. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Invading Iraq is super great idea. That's the wrong statement. BUT > LOOK! While there are plen

Re: Glorious Competence!

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
Bush is incompetent to use him now, but when Obama uses him it'll be competence? On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SPEAKING of The Economist, our official assessment of Barack Obama's > Treasury secretary nominee, New York Fed president Timothy Geithner, > is

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Paul Ihrig
ha!she said flexible.. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All instruments are made to be played. You do them a disservice to > just hang them on the wall. Eventually they will lose all tone. A > friend of mine has the world's best job. He gets to play all th

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Paul Ihrig
WHAT???you bought the boyfriend what??? On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I bought the boyfriend a PRS Custom 24 last summer. He already had a > couple of Les Paul's, including a 1952 Gold Top, and numerous other > axes. He loves the PRS, plays it all the ti

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Tell me what statements are incorrect and why. > Invading Iraq is super great idea. That's the wrong statement. BUT LOOK! While there are plenty of signs of our coming victory: * 20,000 people Burning Bush in effigy in central Baghdad * Trouble passing the SOFA in the Iraqi Par

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Maureen
If you wanna drool, check out the private stock. http://www.prsguitars.com/index.html On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PRS is a smallish shop out of Baltimore MD, and make some of the most > beautiful electric guitars ever.. > > Carlos Santana is one of

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Maureen
All instruments are made to be played. You do them a disservice to just hang them on the wall. Eventually they will lose all tone. A friend of mine has the world's best job. He gets to play all the instruments owned by the Country Music Hall of Fame so the wood stays flexible. On Mon, Nov 24,

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Maureen
I bought the boyfriend a PRS Custom 24 last summer. He already had a couple of Les Paul's, including a 1952 Gold Top, and numerous other axes. He loves the PRS, plays it all the time now. I'm been using it a bit in the studio when I want a different tone than I can get from my Tele or Strat. O

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
OK, let's start from the begining: http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/who_lied_about_iraq.html Tell me what statements are incorrect and why. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fine. If you want to put on your blinders and lock your head

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Maureen
What's the best stomp box for a Duane Eddy style echo? On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:54 AM, David Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Although, really, if you want to see me completely and totally geek out, ask > me about a piece of guitar tech. You will never get me to shut up.

RE: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Loathe
> I'm asking a serious question of you. I'm not being sarcastic. > > Could you explain to me exactly what the military was sent to > Iraq to do, and how we will know when it's done? The invasion of Iraq was to topple the Hussein regime and to break the Baath party in Iraq. Both of these objec

Glorious Competence!

2008-11-24 Thread Gruss Gott
SPEAKING of The Economist, our official assessment of Barack Obama's Treasury secretary nominee, New York Fed president Timothy Geithner, is up: Assuming he is nominated Mr Geithner brings two crucial qualities. First, he represents continuity. From the first days of the crisis last year, he h

RE: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Loathe
Nope Firing on our aircraft, refusing to meet the terms of his surrender, and attempting to kill a former president are all individual acts of war however. > -Original Message- > From: Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:01 PM > To: c

RE: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Loathe
You explained what I was trying to say. > -Original Message- > From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:54 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Ship Of Fools > > Loathe wrote: > > That being said I still say we broke it, we bought. You spend > >

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Maureen
I'm asking a serious question of you. I'm not being sarcastic. Could you explain to me exactly what the military was sent to Iraq to do, and how we will know when it's done? Also, if why doesn't matter, do you think it is ok for a leader to deploy troops under false pretenses? Is "we broke it,

24 inch monitor advice

2008-11-24 Thread Matthew Smith
I am looking to get a new monitor. I want a really, really good one and I am willing to spend the money for it. Which monitor provides the best picture without an outrageous price? I am leaning towards a 24" as that seems to be the best balance and it has a resolution that I think I will be ab

Re: Christians

2008-11-24 Thread Dana
I think Gruss knew that when he posted it is all I am saying. The strokes are pretty broad in the article. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:55 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Wow.come on peoplethe ONION. >> >> That's awesome satire, as usualtake an issue and turn it on it

RE: Funny but a bit weird

2008-11-24 Thread Won Lee
> -Original Message- > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:34 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Funny but a bit weird > > That's 10K..but still, utterly ridiculous. Sorry for the confusion. I'm used to using M for a thousand because that is

RE: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread David Churvis
Agreed. I play Gibson and Fender (and one day I'll own a custom Gretsch with a Bigsby vibrato tailpiece), but I don't think someone with my limited level of talent should play such an amazing instrument. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: Funny but a bit weird

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
Holy crap, I have tears streaming down my face and was laughing so loud and hard that my boss came into my office to see what was going on. He read it, burst out laughing and made me forward it to everyone at work. ~| Adobe® Col

Some people seem to have all the luck.

2008-11-24 Thread Ian Skinner
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Re: Funny but a bit weird

2008-11-24 Thread G Money
That's 10K..but still, utterly ridiculous. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 7:27 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: Re: Funny but a bit

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Ian Skinner
Dana wrote: > I find it very very hard to concentrate and this is supposed to be my > set-aside time for big-picture thinking. On the other hand, he was > given permission to watch it. I was not asked my opinion. > Can you suggest they provide, or provide some headphone for the watcher(s) of t

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
Fine. If you want to put on your blinders and lock your head into the forward facing position, completely disregarding the events that lead to the situation... then the U.S. is winning like crazy. Double plus winning. If you compare the Iraq of say January 2007 to now, hell the U.S. is a Godsend

RE: Funny but a bit weird

2008-11-24 Thread Won Lee
> -Original Message- > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 7:27 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Funny but a bit weird > > loved it...laughed at it...sent it along to other people I know. > > On Nov 7, 2008, at 3:23 PM, Larry Lyons wrote

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Scott Stewart
Paul Reed Smith guitars should never be played they should be hung on walls and worshipped as art Ian Skinner wrote: > David Churvis wrote: > >> I could show you my Magic cards. >> >> > Are they ordered and categorized? Mine are. > > >> Although, really, if you want to see me compl

RE: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread David Churvis
I loved it too, but I go out last year - too expensive lol David Churvis -Original Message- From: Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:03 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek Oh oh oh! Magic! MAN I LOVED THAT GAME. Still have an att

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Ian Skinner
Dana wrote: > that's a thought... there seems to be a school of thought however that > some people find it hard to concentrate when it's too quiet. I don't > recall ever encountering this before Well, that's me, thus the aforementioned headphone radios set to a mindless music station. I noticed

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
> > 2. How does one qualify "winning" when you've set back American foreign > > policy more than 50 years? > > Explain that. Seriously? If I need to explain I'm wasting my breath, or my finger strength as it were. > > 3. How does one qualify "winning" when not even your oldest allies trust >

RE: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
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Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
Now we're talking about the initial invasion again? Since you think the US lied and the war was illegal maybe we should start a thread and argue that entire issue over again,or just browse the archives. This thread we're discussing the end of the war not the beginning. I know I'm anal about that

RE: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread David Churvis
I ordered and categorized my uncommon and rares but I treat my commons like crap. As for the guitars, I am not rich enough to have experience with PRS guitars, but I've heard them played and they are beautiful instruments. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
> Are you arguing we shouldn't have went in, shouldn't win or can't win? > Or all of the above? 1. Shouldn't have gone in. 2. How does one qualify "winning" when you've set back American foreign policy more than 50 years? 3. How does one qualify "winning" when not even your oldest allies trust yo

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Scott Stewart
PRS is a smallish shop out of Baltimore MD, and make some of the most beautiful electric guitars ever.. Carlos Santana is one of their few full endorsees Ian Skinner wrote: > Scott Stewart wrote: > >> Paul Reed Smith guitars should never be played they should be hung on >> walls and worshipp

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Dana
that's a thought... there seems to be a school of thought however that some people find it hard to concentrate when it's too quiet. I don't recall ever encountering this before, which is why I am asking for input on weekends though it is just the two of us and he really wants to watch it and ha

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Ian Skinner
Scott Stewart wrote: > Paul Reed Smith guitars should never be played they should be hung on > walls and worshipped as art. Goodness I didn't even know what I was asking, I just grabbed something off the first Google suggestion for 'guitar tech'. ~~

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
I didn't say it was OK. You used her as an example to discount my claim that America wasn't the enemy. She wasn't targeting Americans. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam wrote: >> She wasn't targeting Americans. > > I'm glad that makes it ok for you. ~~

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
"Are they ordered and categorized? Mine are." Mine too. In binders each in protective sleeves. Feck, and I thought I wasn't a nerd. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the F

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
Not trying to destroy us. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sam wrote: >> Are you arguing we shouldn't have went in, shouldn't win or can't win? >> Or all of the above? >> >> > > Define "win". > ~

Re: Screw Citibank

2008-11-24 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
just wait...BofA will do it toothey've done enough stupid stuff to me to want to change. On Nov 24, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Jacob wrote: > I get in the mail a letter saying that my rate will go from 8.99 to > 16.99 on > December 1. > > When I asked why a good customer has to pay 16.99% when a

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
Are we talking about the world or just Iraq? Michael Yon was talking about Iraq On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "America no longer being seen as the enemy." > > Whha? This past five years has forced just about all muslims to see > Amer

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Are you arguing we shouldn't have went in, shouldn't win or can't win? >> Or all of the above? I'm trying to get you to focus. If I say we might be winning, you say we shouldn't have fought. Then the discus

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Scott Stewart
Shit I should introduce you to my friend Mike, Oracle DBA salary with Mesa Boogie and Jackson Custom Shop Endorsements David Churvis wrote: > I could show you my Magic cards. > > Although, really, if you want to see me completely and totally geek out, ask > me about a piece of guitar tech. You wi

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Rob Parkhill
Although football is fun and everything, I don't think that I could work effectively if it were constantly on Rob On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't you work at a college? > > I'd assume you'd put on headphones and deal with it in that case. > > > -

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Ian Skinner
David Churvis wrote: > I could show you my Magic cards. > Are they ordered and categorized? Mine are. > Although, really, if you want to see me completely and totally geek out, ask > me about a piece of guitar tech. You will never get me to shut up. Ok, I'll bite. What do you think of PRS,

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Dana
yes, on weekdays it is CNN with the sound off. That works for me, or even short bursts with the sound on. We sometimes listen to what Bush or Obama has to say about something. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I love the foosball, but it is ridiculous tha

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
> And that great leader always received 100% of the vote. Why'd we have > to ruin such a good thing? Ask an Iraqi to compare his quality of life in 2002 to his quality of life in 2008. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the m

RE: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Loathe
I'm looking at this and speaking to you from the perspective of a soldier. We were sent to Iraq and Afghanistan to do things, now please just let us do them. Why doesn't matter anymore, it's part of history. If I knew then what I know now I wouldn't have supported the invasion. That being said

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
"If Saddam got 100% of the vote and Bush can't get 100% support we've failed." Who the feck cares how many votes he got? Is a dictator having rigged elections grounds for an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation and member of the United Nations? ~~

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Tony
why would you have to deal with that? -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > let me clarify the question... 24 hours of football GAMES on > television in the workspace

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Ian Skinner
Sam wrote: > She wasn't targeting Americans. I'm glad that makes it ok for you. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;2

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
I don't know any. Can you ask? On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And that great leader always received 100% of the vote. Why'd we have >> to ruin such a good thing? > > Ask an Iraqi to compare his quality of life in 2002 to his quality of li

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
If Saddam got 100% of the vote and Bush can't get 100% support we've failed. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Michael wrote: >> "America no longer being seen as the enemy." >> >> Whha? This past five years has forced just about all muslims to see >> A

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Ray Champagne
I love the foosball, but it is ridiculous that you are subjected to that. Work is work, play is play. The only thing a work TV should be tuned to is something like the weather channel or CNN or something like that, with the sound OFF. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Are you arguing we shouldn't have went in, shouldn't win or can't win? > Or all of the above? > > Define "win". ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Tr

RE: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread David Churvis
I could show you my Magic cards. Although, really, if you want to see me completely and totally geek out, ask me about a piece of guitar tech. You will never get me to shut up. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Dana
Pandora is currently saving my sanity yep. But I am in big trouble if I forget the headphones. And I frequently need to talk to vendors and frankly it is sometimes hard to hear. Moving locations has been ruled out. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dana wro

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Ian Skinner
Loathe wrote: > That being said I still say we broke it, we bought. You spend American > blood and you don't leave till you win. > +8 <-- how do you turn that sideways? > Why doesn't matter anymore, it's part of history. If I knew then > what I know now I wouldn't have supported the invasio

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: >> tBone wrote: >> That being said I still say we broke it, we bought. You spend American >> blood and you don't leave till you win. >> > BTW - Iraq may kick us out anyway: http://baghdadbureau.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/24/analysis-on-the-spot-sofa-from-inside-parliament/ The Status

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Dana
I find it very very hard to concentrate and this is supposed to be my set-aside time for big-picture thinking. On the other hand, he was given permission to watch it. I was not asked my opinion. For a while I was going intothe next room (and being incredibly productive btw) but I've been instructed

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
mber targets Green Zone entrance > http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081124/D94LG1G00.html > > Must have been a friendly suicide bomber. > > I don't disagree that progress has been made. I never said we couldn't > 'win' eventually. But I always knew the price would be hi

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
Are you arguing we shouldn't have went in, shouldn't win or can't win? Or all of the above? On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right, but if you go back BEFORE the sacrifices and ask yourself did they > need to be made? Iraq was never a thre

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Although football is fun and everything, I don't think that I could work > effectively if it were constantly on I'm now in an office environment where I'm the only programmer in a sea of Customer Service folks. They're constantly on the phone and when they're not, they have music going

RE: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
Absolutely, no one is blaming the soldiers. This isn't Vietnam. All the soldiers are just doing their jobs. "Why doesn't matter anymore" Certainly it does. The U.S. government lied to the whole world. They looked their allies in the eye and forced them into this lie with the "you're with us or

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Ian Skinner
Dana wrote: > apparently it's unreasonable to find it annoying. I would find it annoying to be forced to watch, or ignore, 24 hours of anything, even video entertainment I *enjoy!* Especially at work. I prefer white noise music when I'm at work. Generally wearing headphone radios tuned to a g

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > That being said I still say we broke it, we bought. You spend American > blood and you don't leave till you win. > We won, Hussein's dead, and we're out of money. So stay if you want, but it's on your own nickel. We've got the sheet hittin the fan in America and we can't afford

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Dana
not any more, cubicle farm and I need to talk to the guy who is watching it so headphones are a partial solution at best. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't you work at a college? > > I'd assume you'd put on headphones and deal with it in that case. > >> --

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Tony
well, i would be a maroon to not go work somewhere that allowed that but then again, i dont think id work somewhere that wasn 8-5 m-f and with that, i get to watch nfl at home... BUT i dont get it... turn the tv's off? ask them to not have ANY tv on? are they FORCING this one on you? -- tony B

RE: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Loathe
I know several people that work for universities and the extra-curricular things are what they really like about the job. They sacrifice money so they can "deal" with stuff like that. Personally I'm with you, can't stand football. > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Charlie Griefer
ok well if you really wanted to be serious... :) no, you shouldn't be subjected to it if you find it annoying or distracting. i share an office with somebody and i'm always cognizant when playing music, making sure it's something he doesn't mind listening to (or ideally, something he actually like

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Michael wrote: > "America no longer being seen as the enemy." > > Whha? This past five years has forced just about all muslims to see > America as the enemy. It's turned thousands of normal muslims into radicals. > BAGHDAD — Chanting "no to America," supporters of a radical Shiite cleric bu

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Ian Skinner
Sam wrote: > This isn't an official government position, it's an op-ed about the > America no longer being seen as the enemy. Suicide bomber targets Green Zone entrance http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081124/D94LG1G00.html Must have been a friendly suicide bomber. I don

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Erika L. Walker
ROFLMAO! +1million or so On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > just when you thought a 'star trek vs star wars' thread (with a dash of > comic books thrown in for good measure) couldn't possibly get geekier... :) > > ~~~

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
will there be a quiz or is the question do you mind it in the background? On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > let me clarify the question... 24 hours of football GAMES on > television in the workspace in two back-to-back 12-hour shifts. > ~~

RE: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Loathe
Have you ever read the Koran, most Muslims that are true to their faith would have to be enemies of this nation. > -Original Message- > From: Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:40 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Ship Of Fools >

RE: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Loathe
Don't you work at a college? I'd assume you'd put on headphones and deal with it in that case. > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:36 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: serious question > > let me clarify the question... 24

RE: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Loathe
Very cool man. Glad you're having fun with it. > -Original Message- > From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:36 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: startrek > > just cheap stufffinished my ccw class yesterday the xd is > spot on wife gabve me p

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Dana
apparently it's unreasonable to find it annoying. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why would you have to deal with that? > > -- tony > > Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. > -- siddhartha gautama > > > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Dana
yeah I was afraid I would hear that :) Any other opinions? SO far I have not made an issue of this but I thought I would get some input on how reasonable it is. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > um... they hiring? :) > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:36 AM

Re: Citibank bailout

2008-11-24 Thread Tony
uhhh, not for long ;) -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dude you have a mortgage, you have "some credit" :) > > Tony wrote: >> i am. >> >> -- tony >>

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
"America no longer being seen as the enemy." Whha? This past five years has forced just about all muslims to see America as the enemy. It's turned thousands of normal muslims into radicals. *shakes head* How can you not see this? ~~

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Charlie Griefer
um... they hiring? :) On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > let me clarify the question... 24 hours of football GAMES on > television in the workspace in two back-to-back 12-hour shifts. > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Charlie Griefer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: serious question

2008-11-24 Thread Dana
let me clarify the question... 24 hours of football GAMES on television in the workspace in two back-to-back 12-hour shifts. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> is willingness to deal

Re: startrek

2008-11-24 Thread Paul Ihrig
just cheap stufffinished my ccw class yesterday the xd is spot on wife gabve me permisiopn after i took her to range with hi-point it jamed like 4 time she said she cant have that... so no jams with xd.. o the SALES guy at largest glock dealer was in my class. he jamed over 8 times with his modif

Re: Citibank bailout

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
Applying does but not existing accounts. The more credit entrusted to you and not used the better your score. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doesn't number of open accounts ding your credit? ~~

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Sam
And that great leader always received 100% of the vote. Why'd we have to ruin such a good thing? On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was extremely stable pre 2003. Good health care, safe streets, good > infrastructure. And all run by a guy

Re: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
Right, but if you go back BEFORE the sacrifices and ask yourself did they need to be made? Iraq was never a threat to western civilization. They were a trade partner of the U.S. like another country, what's it's name. Ah yes, Saudi Arabia... now they are the ones that pose(ed) a real threat yet

RE: Ship Of Fools

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
Here's the only facts I need: Number of American soldiers killed by Iraqi's from 1992 to 2002: 0 Number of American soldiers killed by Iraqi's from 2003 to current: 4204 Number of WMD's found: 0 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8

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