RE: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Depends on his present ;-) -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 8:55 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote "I do think that both men really regretted their bad decisions

Re: Sestak confirms White House job offer to get out of Senate race

2010-05-23 Thread Scott Stroz
How do you do that? How do you always say what I want to say, but in a much more concise and more intelligent way than I think I am capable. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > They certainly pushed hard to get Sestak to drop out. I hope this > story isn't true, but if it

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Scott Stroz
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > You seem to think that public schooling is the cause of the dropout rate. I have never heard of anyone dropping out of home school :D I really hope you take that as the joke it is meant to be. -- Scott Stroz --- You can

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-23 Thread Scott Stroz
That was a rhetorical question, right? On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "I do think that both men really regretted their bad decisions in their past > and their careers have shown that they deeply cared about people and learned > from their mistakes and chose to live a li

Re: Sestak confirms White House job offer to get out of Senate race

2010-05-23 Thread Judah McAuley
They certainly pushed hard to get Sestak to drop out. I hope this story isn't true, but if it is, I hope that heads roll. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Rep. Joe Sestak, winner of the Pennsylvania Democratic Senate primary, is > refusing to provide more information on w

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Now you are really being a dick about it and it is coming off as nothing > other than trying to distract from the issue we were discussing." > > Nice way to resort to name calling.  When argument fails, resort to insults. That isn't name

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Now you are really being a dick about it and it is coming off as nothing other than trying to distract from the issue we were discussing." Nice way to resort to name calling. When argument fails, resort to insults. "Rand Paul advocates letting businesses discriminate on the basis of categorie

Sestak confirms White House job offer to get out of Senate race

2010-05-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
Rep. Joe Sestak, winner of the Pennsylvania Democratic Senate primary, is refusing to provide more information on what job he was offered by a White House official to drop of that race, although he confirmed again that the incident occurred.

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > "Please show me a little more respect than that as I respect you." > > I showed you the same amount of respect.  I used your example with you as > the target :)  No offense was taken be the way.  It would take a lot more > than someone on a l

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"He was asked whether he would have voted for it. And he explained all the issues he had with it and was equivocating and refused to answer the question, evading instead. It seems pretty obvious to me that he would not have voted for it and does not support it." Seems to me that he said he agreed

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > "You can sit on your porch, drink beer with your friends and spit vitriol on > every nigger-loving papist homo in Congress and I'll defend your right to do > so" > > Nice.  Are you trying to paint me as a beer drinking racist, homo-phobe?  If

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I do think that both men really regretted their bad decisions in their past and their careers have shown that they deeply cared about people and learned from their mistakes and chose to live a life where they could make a difference." Okay. Good enough. Now, would you give a conservative candi

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"You seem to think that public schooling is the cause of the dropout rate." Really? I don't recall stating my opinion on why the drop out rate is so high in public schools. I just gave a link giving percentages of drop out rates in larger urban areas. " You are wrong." How so? I did not giv

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
" I don't think it is a terribly complex issue. " It must be nice. "You can sit on your porch, drink beer with your friends and spit vitriol on every nigger-loving papist homo in Congress and I'll defend your right to do so" Nice. Are you trying to paint me as a beer drinking racist, homo-pho

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Sam
They were in an uproar in Texas because his middle name was mentioned in text books. Is it out of fashion now? Come to think of it I hear even Obama girl is not happy with him. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "You also discredit yourself with the state indoctrination cr

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Sam
Remember when you said: "charter and public schools still shows no statistically significant difference." Did you forget you said they were the same or are you asking me for a peer reviewed study about the price being half? On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > you can bla

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"You also discredit yourself with the state indoctrination crap..." Really? You must have never seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3TKMKbifgQ&feature=related ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.ama

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Pardon but what are you talking about. Its a pissing contest between Scott and Eric. I have nothing to do with it." Holy misinterpretation Batman. I had no intention of imply that you had anything to do with Scott and Eric's imbroglio. I was just pointing out that the article you posted about

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Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
you can blather all you want but provide the data from peer reviewed studies. Otherwise you're just blowing it out your behind as usual. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Sam wrote: > > Same thing half the price. > > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> >> Still doesn't co

RE: Elections in Trinidad Tomorrow.

2010-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Good luck? -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 3:16 PM To: cf-community Subject: Elections in Trinidad Tomorrow. So...Election Day is Tomorrow in Trinidad and Tobago. The Prime Minister was forced to call elections after the opposition

Elections in Trinidad Tomorrow.

2010-05-23 Thread Vivec
So...Election Day is Tomorrow in Trinidad and Tobago. The Prime Minister was forced to call elections after the opposition moved to bring a motion of No Confidence against him, and after months of allegations of corruption; A Commission of Enquiry also found that a massive state company required

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Sam
The charter schools in Oakland and LA are bucking those trends On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Just a very short comment. You seem to think that public schooling is > the cause of the dropout rate. You are wrong. Those dropout rates are > a good example of the third va

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Sam
Same thing half the price. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Still doesn't contradict the large scale studies of issue. Of the 8 > studies I've looked at in detail now, and have put into my > meta-analysis app, the mean sample weighted effect size of the > differences b

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Just a very short comment. You seem to think that public schooling is the cause of the dropout rate. You are wrong. Those dropout rates are a good example of the third variable problem. Its most likely not the public vs private vs home school that is the problem. Rather the result is most likely d

RE: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
You also discredit yourself with the state indoctrination crap... -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:08 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks. If children are

RE: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Not as much as Byrd's past. Kennedy had a accident because he was doing something really stupid (driving while drunk) and followed up with stupid actions...and unfortunately someone died as a result. Byrd on the other hand just didn't stand up for what was right in his youth when he had the ch

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Still doesn't contradict the large scale studies of issue. Of the 8 studies I've looked at in detail now, and have put into my meta-analysis app, the mean sample weighted effect size of the differences between charter and public schools still shows no statistically significant difference. On Sun,

Re: Sarah palin on tv?

2010-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Fox News Sunday is a talking heads show. It at least tries to project the illusion of fair and balanced - doesn't succeed all that well though. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Why is sarah palin on fox news on a sunday? Like...pretending to know > stuff and so on? 0_0 is this a

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "I pretty much agree with your interpretation of his stance in the > interview, Jerry, and that is what I've been saying I felt his point was." > > Thanks Judah.  Good to see someone analyze instead of using knee jerk > reactions. Of cours

Re: Sarah palin on tv?

2010-05-23 Thread Sam
Why are you watching Fox news? On you phone even. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Why is sarah palin on fox news on a sunday? Like...pretending to know > stuff and so on? 0_0 is this a normal Sunday show? > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > ~~

Sarah palin on tv?

2010-05-23 Thread Vivec
Why is sarah palin on fox news on a sunday? Like...pretending to know stuff and so on? 0_0 is this a normal Sunday show? -- Sent from my mobile device ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Col

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Sam
I remember reading about the DC charter that they do about the same for half the cost. As for CA, they do much better http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_15082068 Publicly funded and independently run charter schools did especially well in the similar schools rankings. Nearly 40 perce

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-23 Thread Sam
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:03 PM, denstar wrote: > Can't we all agree that more transparency in the government is a good thing? See Jerry's comment. >> Where did you get that from? Who's guilty of what? > > Come on man, this is the overriding theme we've been on since Bush43 > et al spread the

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Please list at least two of them. Its all ok to say such, but I'd still like to see the citation rather than depend on a second or third hand account. One of the most basic things you learn in experimental design and data analysis courses is never depend on secondary or tertiary sources. You may b

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Pardon but what are you talking about. Its a pissing contest between Scott and Eric. I have nothing to do with it. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Get the *fuck *over it Scott...I disagree with homeschooling...you > don't..better yet, get the *fuck *over yourself.  " >

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Scott Stroz
I agree. Along similar lines, if someone does nto want to hire me because of what I have said here, on other mailing lists, on Facebook, Twitter, etc than that place is likely a place I would not like working at anyway. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > That's what we used

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
If children are home schooled, they miss the state ran indoctrination system. They might not get to watch "The Story of Stuff". What a tragedy that would be. In all seriousness, how can anyone justify the mandate of no home schooling when you have facts like these: For years, educators have t

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Didn't care for him too much...especially his past...but I do believe he saw the error of his way in later life and tried to make up for his past." No problems with Kennedy's past? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!