Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

And if I wasn't old enough to be your mother, we could really party. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I am also a sexy mofo and a mad mad loverboy. > > And humble. Let us not forget that. > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> I do love Judah.   I am of

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

I am also a sexy mofo and a mad mad loverboy. And humble. Let us not forget that. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I do love Judah.   I am often in awe at how very articulate and informed he > is. > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> You must love Judah

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

The author of the article, in the very same article, decries the CBO for being totally untrustworthy. If you want to trust the CBO on the issue, great. If you don't want to trust the CBO on the issue, fine. The problem with the article is that it tries to do both. You don't get to say that the CB

A picture of a relatively sane US election

The race for Oregon Governor was just finalized. It was incredibly close right up to the end, the final results will probably come out 49-48 with Democrat John Kitzhaber defeating Republican Chris Dudley. It was a curious race. I wan't particularly enthused about either candidate. Kitzhaber was G

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

Then let's go right to the source, the CBO report: http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/119xx/doc11945/USC10-22-10.pdf on page 3: The legislation will affect some individuals’ decisions about whether and how much to work, and some employers’ decisions about hiring workers. We estimated that the legislation,

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

I do love Judah. I am often in awe at how very articulate and informed he is. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Sam wrote: > > You must love Judah. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfu

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

The Examiner is owned by a Republican, Christian corporate billionaire with oil and media interests. It's the very definition of spin. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Sam wrote: > > The Examiner was based on facts and references. No spin. ~~~

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

Well written childish insults void of facts. You must love Judah. . On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Ah, you mean the letter from the Progressive.  I didn't say I agree > with it, just that the author was articulate and Sam was losing points > by calling him a cry baby. > >

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

The Examiner was based on facts and references. No spin. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Sorry, Maureen, but I fail to see how you can view this as 'spin' but > not post from Huffington in another thread. > > They are both spin, and they both pretty much suck. > ~~~

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

I was posting quoting you for Judah and you replied so I pasted on your post. Didn't really bother to read it, just saw it was vicious as usual. Still standing by the cry baby article as well written opinion piece? On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Oh, I consider their views.

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

Ah, you mean the letter from the Progressive. I didn't say I agree with it, just that the author was articulate and Sam was losing points by calling him a cry baby. Frankly, I agree that the letter contains a great deal of spin, but it's very well written spin. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:54 PM, S

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

I don't recall posting anything from Huffington. I never read it. Spin is spin no matter which side it comes from, and I despise it. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Sorry, Maureen, but I fail to see how you can view this as 'spin' but > not post from Huffington in anothe

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

Sorry, Maureen, but I fail to see how you can view this as 'spin' but not post from Huffington in another thread. They are both spin, and they both pretty much suck. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Oh, I consider their views.  I consider them idiotic and full of spin > and d

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

I know you are just busting balls, but I bet that becomes a rallying cry of the left. Just like the right was claiming Obama had not done all he promised, and the left said 'its only been 2 years', in 2 years the roles will be reversed and the left will be saying 'you haven't done what you promis

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

Oh, I consider their views. I consider them idiotic and full of spin and disinformation, and I am more than capable of articulating the reasons without calling them cry-babies. I just thought I'd make my point by mimicking you, and you fell for it. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Sam wrote: >

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

The fact that you refuse to consider the views of those you don't agree with, and constantly insult and ridicule them is why your voice carries no weight. If you could write a letter that articulate espousing your opinions, you might actually convince someone of the validity of your stance. :P .

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

Suspect the writer was a bottle-fed baby whose mom left him in the playpen with only a top to play with, cause he is sure fixated on right-wing woman with large ta-tas and spin, spin, spin. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Let's see...the author of that article starts by

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

They have to be sworn in first. On Drudge: Stocks Climb to Highest In Two Years... . On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Boner didn't say anything about waiting. I want my tax cuts, and my > job.  Fix the economy now. ~

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

Boner didn't say anything about waiting. I want my tax cuts, and my job. Fix the economy now. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Sam wrote: > > At least wait for the lame ducks to clean out their desks. > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> Really.  They've had almost 24 hour

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

Let's see...the author of that article starts by saying that the CBO lies through its teeth but then cherry picks a negative from the CBO to further trash the law. So, wait, the CBO is a bunch of liars except when they say something you want to be true? Yeah, that sounds about like standard opera

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

At least wait for the lame ducks to clean out their desks. . On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Really.  They've had almost 24 hours already.  I want my tax cuts. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! h

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

Really. They've had almost 24 hours already. I want my tax cuts. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > You mean they haven't fixed everything yet?  What are those lazy bastards > waiting for? > > -Original Message- > From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] > Sent

RE: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

You mean they haven't fixed everything yet? What are those lazy bastards waiting for? -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:09 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy Didn't you hear? Th

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

And they have two moths to do it. . On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Didn't you hear?  The republicans are in charge now.  They're gonna > fix everything.  It's gonna be a perfect economy just like it was > before Obama took office. ~~

Re: Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

Didn't you hear? The republicans are in charge now. They're gonna fix everything. It's gonna be a perfect economy just like it was before Obama took office. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > So says the CBO: > > http://www.examiner.com/scotus-in-washington-dc/obamacare-di

Obamacare will likely shrink the economy

So says the CBO: http://www.examiner.com/scotus-in-washington-dc/obamacare-discourages-work-cbo-admits-will-likely-shrink-economy Not sure how I missed this story, but there you have it. Democrats not only didn't fix the economy, they actively pushed through legislation that will seriously damag

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Sam wrote: > > > Reid won only because his opponent was so weak. That and it appears > Nevadans like having the worst economy. > > Hispanics broke for Reid 3-1, apparently because of an ad Angle aired bashing Reid for being too easy on illegal immigration. That's

RE: Punitive Politics

The budget for war should be offense budget :-D -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:23 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Punitive Politics On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:2

Re: A letter from a progressive to Obama...

I did consider it, and quickly realized it was a cry baby letter. Did you not notice how insulting it was? How it ridiculed everyone that doesn't support Obama? Even most of the democrats are insulted and ridiculed. How did you read it and not notice that. Wow, your bias is showing . On Wed, N

Re: A letter from a progressive to Obama...

You got me thinking it might be by Axelrod. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Wasn't what? Cry baby garbage? Of course it was.  That's what makes it so > priceless. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Putting it at the top this time. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKdmp0kEWTo Sorry I said clicked. > My point, which you persist in missing, is that those who were > defeated or had very close races, were luckwarm in their support of > healt

Re: A letter from a progressive to Obama...

The only thing that will ensure a Republican Presidency in 2012 is a viable candidate. I haven't seen any yet. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > I would like to see this person made the chief political adviser to the > President. That should ensure a Republican Congress and

Re: A letter from a progressive to Obama...

The fact that you refuse to consider the views of those you don't agree with, and constantly insult and ridicule them is why your voice carries no weight. If you could write a letter that articulate espousing your opinions, you might actually convince someone of the validity of your stance. On W

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Vivec wrote: > >> >> How about cutting 50% from Defence AKA War :-) > > Defense != War True, but the last decade most of the "defense" budget has been spent on "war", so they need to uncouple the spending an

Re: A letter from a progressive to Obama...

Wasn't what? Cry baby garbage? Of course it was. That's what makes it so priceless. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Sam wrote: > > Are you saying it wasn't? > > ... > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > > > I would like to see this person made the chief political adviser

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Sam wrote: The line monster ruined your video. Putting it at the top this time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKdmp0kEWTo > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Maureen wrote: > Such the niggler. You do that often when you don;t want to concede. > Of the 61 that

Re: A letter from a progressive to Obama...

Are you saying it wasn't? ... On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > I would like to see this person made the chief political adviser to the > President. That should ensure a Republican Congress and Presidency in 2012. > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Vivec wrote: > >> >> Ye

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Vivec wrote: > > How about cutting 50% from Defence AKA War :-) > lol > Defense != War ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/14302721

Re: That was quick

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:00 PM, denstar wrote: > It's not about Evil, it's about Dicks.  There are more Dicks on your > side.  It's been scientifically proven.  =) > But we're not really debating that, right? Not anymore :) You're too stubborn. > If only the Tea Party was only about the consti

Re: A letter from a progressive to Obama...

I would like to see this person made the chief political adviser to the President. That should ensure a Republican Congress and Presidency in 2012. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Yes, it's possible to be 'too nice' ,and you can't reason with unreasonable > and irrational folk,

Re: That was quick

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:09 PM, denstar wrote: > ... I forgot you'd responded already. Major snippage follows. ... > Alright, how are you proving is evil? The tea party, republicans, > conservatives or anyone that didn't go to the fear rally? It's

Re: A letter from a progressive to Obama...

Sorry, I can't read cry baby garbage like that. I did try. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Yes, it's possible to be 'too nice' ,and you can't reason with unreasonable > and irrational folk, or those that want only your destruction.* > > A Letter From a Progressive to President

A letter from a progressive to Obama...

Yes, it's possible to be 'too nice' ,and you can't reason with unreasonable and irrational folk, or those that want only your destruction.* A Letter From a Progressive to President Obama **long but worth reading. November 1, 2010 08:12 PM* Dear President Obama, First off, I want to tell you tha

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

I like it but it should read: stomped BY the establishment like a troublesome protester at a Rand Paul rally line monster:P On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I don't remember. Maybe the woman who lost to Reid? > > I just loved the way the Rand Paul stomping was already i

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> Did you miss the word "few" > > Of all the Democrats listed that article, 50% won.  So now 50% is few? Such the niggler. You do that often when you don;t want to concede. Of the 61 that lost, do you think 30 of them voted against Health Care Bo

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

I don't remember. Maybe the woman who lost to Reid? I just loved the way the Rand Paul stomping was already in the lexicon. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Who were they talking about? > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > > > My favorite quote of th

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

Your MOM! zing! On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Sam wrote: > > Dude, > what are you on? > > > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Medic wrote: > > This is actually the most brilliant little behavioral loop hole. > > > > You're at a restaurant and the guy across from you is all "Pythagorean >

RE: Punitive Politics

Yep...I think it was Russ Carnahan (not 100% on the name)...his wife served his term and was beaten by Al Blout yesterday. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 8:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Punitive Politics So a dea

Re: Punitive Politics

So a dead Democrat beat a living Republican. Priceless. Didn't a dead guy beat John Ashcroft in 2000? On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> >> Did you miss the part where Pelosi and Reid were reelected? > > So? > > http://www.huffi

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Maureen wrote: > >>> http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/politics-elections/127261-few-democrats-survive-vote-in-favor-of-health-reform >> >> Did you miss the part where Pelosi and Reid were reelected? > > Did you mi

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

Who were they talking about? On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > My favorite quote of the day from around the interwebs: > > "She was the "fringe" Republican, always written off, always bullied by the > establishment, who had been adopted by a brand new political movement an

RE: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

Regardless of trends...it's sad that people can't be bothered to get off their lazy asses and vote... -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 4:41 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics On Wed, No

RE: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

You can thank the Roberts court for that...singing Rush "Big Money" -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics I don;t see that at all. What I saw was

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Maureen wrote: > > > Did you miss the part where Pelosi and Reid were reelected? So? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/03/jenny-oropeza-wins-califo_n_778113.html Jenny Oropeza died last month, but her political career lives on. The deceased California Democr

RE: Non-Political Picture Thread

I get a lot of that too...there are a few companies in the far northern burbs of Chicago (like almost in Wisconsin...you can smell the cheese from their locations hehehe). For me that would be a 3-4 hr commute either by car or public trans. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

My favorite quote of the day from around the interwebs: "She was the "fringe" Republican, always written off, always bullied by the establishment, who had been adopted by a brand new political movement and stomped the establishment like a troublesome protester at a Rand Paul rally." ~~~

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Medic wrote: > >> >> "If she was an assassin, they were *way* too late." >> >> Doesn't mean one shouldn't attempt to stop it. >> > > This is actually the most brilliant little behavioral loop hole. > > You're at a restaurant and the guy across from you is all "Pytha

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

Dude, what are you on? On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Medic wrote: > This is actually the most brilliant little behavioral loop hole. > > You're at a restaurant and the guy across from you is all "Pythagorean > theorem is the bees knees bitches." > You think "This guy is f**king retarded. Bra

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

> > "If she was an assassin, they were *way* too late." > > Doesn't mean one shouldn't attempt to stop it. > This is actually the most brilliant little behavioral loop hole. You're at a restaurant and the guy across from you is all "Pythagorean theorem is the bees knees bitches." You think "This

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Sam wrote: > >> This state must be filled with the biggest idiots. >> Gillibrand's acceptable,  but the other two... >> > > Schumer is vocal, I'll give him that. You hear his comments more than > Gillibrand.

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Maureen wrote: >> http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/politics-elections/127261-few-democrats-survive-vote-in-favor-of-health-reform > > Did you miss the part where Pelosi and Reid were reelected? Did you miss the word "few" >>> Just wait.  Even you don't want

Digital revenge on Craigslist is prosecutable

We had an interesting case being debated around work today, worth passing along. Revenge apparently has its limits. http://blogs.masslawyersweekly.com/news/2010/11/03/woman-may-be-prosecuted-for-craigslist-posting/ Woman may be prosecuted for Craigslist posting

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Sam wrote: > This state must be filled with the biggest idiots. > Gillibrand's acceptable, but the other two... > Schumer is vocal, I'll give him that. You hear his comments more than Gillibrand. Cuomo was a really good attorney general for NY and has been bring

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:41 PM, G Money wrote: > > Whoa whoa whoa...you cannot compare vote turnout in a mid-term election, > with the voter turnout during a presidential election. Mid term voter > turnout will ALWAYS be lower, and usually MUCH lower. > > To get a better comparison of turnout "tr

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Maureen wrote: >> Doubtful most voters made any decisions based health care.  The >> economy and the rhetoric from the pundits perhaps, but the most vocal >> supporters of the health care plan, like Pelosi, won easil

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "So who exactly did the Republicans punish?" > > Who said Republicans?  It would be hard for anyone to win a race these days > with the support of one party.  You have to get the independents.  You know, > those independents who voted for th

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. -Neil wrote it Geddy said it On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > it is just sad that so many people wouldn't bother to show up. > ~| Order the Adobe

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > One thing I found interesting about this election is that for all the > foreknowledge that Democrats were going to get the smackdown in this > election, for everything everyone said about how there needed to be > bigger turn out to avoid a

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Define a failing state. Bankrupt, higher than average unemployment. > All of Dems voted for the health care plan, and some of the Repubs. Voting yes were 219 Democrats and 0 Republicans. Voting no were 34 Democrats and 178 Republicans. There a

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

"My point wasn't that the Democratic Party didn't get punished, my point was that moderate to conservative democrats got punished at a much higher rate than progressives. That same punishment was visited on the Republican side as well, though more so in the primary season than the general election

Re: Punitive Politics

"So who exactly did the Republicans punish?" Who said Republicans? It would be hard for anyone to win a race these days with the support of one party. You have to get the independents. You know, those independents who voted for the Democrats and Barack Obama in 2008. "While she will no long

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Who got punished?" > > The Democratic Party got punished for not listening to their constituents. >  This is very obvious when conservative Democrats who voted against Obama > Care got trounced by no name challengers. > > Certain incumbent

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > > It's all about how many yard signs you have pinned up around town! I remember hearing many dems got caught stealing yard signs again and someone said you have to be a real idiot to think that influences people. made me laugh. > All I go

Re: Punitive Politics

"My problem with a lot of the people who got elected this time around is that they don't seem to have any real idea of how they would exercise greater fiscal discipline and help control the size of government. If you came to me with a plan that says, 'this is the cuts I'll pursue and the related c

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Sam wrote: > Weird. > > Democrats outspent the Republicans in the House > and the Republicans outspent the Democrats in the Senate. > > What was your point? > Money has the opposite effect? > :) > It's all about how many yard signs you have pinned up around town

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

"Who got punished?" The Democratic Party got punished for not listening to their constituents. This is very obvious when conservative Democrats who voted against Obama Care got trounced by no name challengers. Certain incumbent Republicans got punished in the primaries for the same reason. The

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Sam wrote: > > I did notice all the failing states retained their leaders. Define a failing state. > The Republicans did win the house, now have the most governors and > gained several senate seats. > Not sure why you would try to spin that as a democrat win. >

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

Weird. Democrats outspent the Republicans in the House and the Republicans outspent the Democrats in the Senate. What was your point? Money has the opposite effect? :) On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I don;t see that at all. > > What I saw was that _exceptionally huge

Re: Punitive Politics

I did notice all the failing states retained their leaders. The Republicans did win the house, now have the most governors and gained several senate seats. Not sure why you would try to spin that as a democrat win. Those who lost are mainly the ones that voted for ObamaCare, except of course for

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

Hard to say.I think the people out here got really tired of her ads, so it might have been closer with less spending. The hypocrisy on the illegal housekeeper issue hurt her a lot. But basically her overall message killed her chances, as did Fiorina's. I'm a former C-level exec at a technology

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

that was dumb money. but, do you think the race would have been that close without that level of spending? On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Meg Whitman spent 160 million dollars, most of it her own money, and lost. > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: >

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

Meg Whitman spent 160 million dollars, most of it her own money, and lost. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I don;t see that at all. > > What I saw was that _exceptionally huge_ money affected a lot of races. Not > normal money, not even big money, but ridiculous money.

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Angle lost because Reid got 11 percent of the Republican vote. > O'Donnell lost, Fiorina lost. So why is the Tea Party crowing > victory? > > I HOPE that the Republicans were merely using the Tea Party idiots to help them win an election, and w

Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

I don;t see that at all. What I saw was that _exceptionally huge_ money affected a lot of races. Not normal money, not even big money, but ridiculous money. Like tequila shots at the end of a night, money gave people like a 20% bump they otherwise wouldn't have had. In races that should not hav

Re: Non-Political Picture Thread

I love the Bay Area. I came out for a conference in 1997 and completely fell in love with San Francisco. Moved here from Atlanta in 2005, lived in the city for a year, then moved to San Jose for two years, got really tired of the commute, so I moved to Alameda Island, which is just about as perf

Re: Punitive Politics

So who exactly did the Republicans punish? While she will no long be speaker, Nancy Pelosi won her seat again with 80% of the vote. Harry Reid was re-elected. The Dems still hold the Senate. Those who lost their seats, for the most part, were moderates who were willing to work across the aisle

Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

You know, I was just thinking about who got punished in this election. When I look over the results, both in the primaries and the general election, I see a polarizing effect. A lot of Tea Party sort of folks made primary challenges to more established Republicans, coming at them from the right.

Re: Punitive Politics

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Either our leaders in Washington are going to find their courage and start > tackling our structural deficits or heads are going to roll again in 2012. > Voters want everything and they are not going to get it. Someone has to man > up and mov

Re: Electorate - Setting proper expectations

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > We are rapidly heading down a path of structural deficits that will destroy > - not damage, destroy - the fundamental underpinnings of our economy. Is it our economy what makes us teh awesome? We made it through the Great Depression! I'm m

Re: Non-Political Picture Thread

I've turned down jobs in the Bay Area several times over the last couple tech booms. If I was single and in my 20s and would make enough to be independently wealthy...maybe. But while I absolutely love visiting and hanging out in SF and the surrounding area, living there would drive me nuts. Hell,

Re: Non-Political Picture Thread

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Sam wrote: > > You turned down San Fransisco to stay in Kansas? > You must love the family. > > Even I liked living in leftyville :) > Yeah I know...it sounds crazy. Kansas is by no means ideal, but it does suit me a bit better than SF..or anywhere on either coas

Re: Non-Political Picture Thread

You turned down San Fransisco to stay in Kansas? You must love the family. Even I liked living in leftyville :) On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:48 PM, G Money wrote: > > Back in '01, when I was only 25, i turned down a job that offered me almost > THREE TIMES what I was currently making...because it

Re: Electorate - Setting proper expectations

But now it's the R's fault :) Wait, it always was. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > We are rapidly heading down a path of structural deficits that will destroy > - not damage, destroy - the fundamental underpinnings of our economy. > ~~

Re: Non-Political Picture Thread

Oh i wasn't talking about your situation specifically...just waxing philosophic on generalities. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Yeah... I know but we made the decision to instantiate a move back to > DC from NC. Didn't count on my daughter getting sick.. the plan was >

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Exactly. These days I see my kid off on the school bus each morning. I'm only 5 minutes from her school. I can even go home for lunch if I want to, and still be back in enough time. Just being so close has done a lot to improve the quality of life. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:48 PM, G Money wrote:

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Yeah... I know but we made the decision to instantiate a move back to DC from NC. Didn't count on my daughter getting sick.. the plan was for my wife and daughter to move to NoVA. over Labor Day weekend, it's now on hold indefinitely. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:48 PM, G Money wrote: > > Back in '0

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Back in '01, when I was only 25, i turned down a job that offered me almost THREE TIMES what I was currently making...because it meant a move to San Francisco. The head hunter who found me the job was.less than enthusiastic when I turned it down :) He never talked to me again. I told him fro

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Painful I know. When I was looking recently I turned down a job where I'd have been making 30,000 more than now. I just did not think it was worth the extra commute. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > I wish I had that problem..currently mine is 2 to 2.5 hours depending > o

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Jim webb has been suggesting that we cut troop levels to help reduce the defense costs...of course that would entail dropping out of some of these wars we have going on... The DoD suggested that the reduce pay increases and benefits. -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns.

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>_> <_< sowwies to hear that. 0_0 On 3 November 2010 13:36, Jeff Garza wrote: > > Oh... Don't worry... They are cutting from defense. I just got laid off > from a major defense company yesterday. The pain is still here folks. > > Jeff > > ~~

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