Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Grussgott
I think you missed the point because I said that businesses need to be comfortable taking risks. So when is that? It's when they have an expectation there's going to a future consumer for their product. Apple is comfortable investing right now because their products attract revenue. And th

Re: friday world

2011-07-23 Thread Grussgott
Motion detecting sprinkler. Super cheap, keeps out deer, burglars, kids, coyotes, and if you set another one up low even rabbits. Plus while your intruders are fleeing you're watering your lawn/garden Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > Try getting some p

Re: question for those who buy their own insurance

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
yeah that sounds familiar, thanks On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > Canada has this great piece of fiction you don't see in the US called the > Crown Corporation. Its a regular company, but it is wholly owned by the > government. Seems to be working pretty well. > > >fwiw

Re: Obama 41, Ron Paul 37

2011-07-23 Thread Grussgott
I'd vote for him Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "He's the only guy on the national scene that I can see who isn't beholden > to the establishment, and he has a chance to win." > J > > I'd vote for him. > - > > Ninety percent of politicians give the ot

Re: friday world

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
> > that sounds a lot like government regulation. Most products that have any > claim to a fair trade label use it. There's probably an industry standard or > seal of approval already. > > i haven't changed my mind about chinese labor, though. we should require us > companies to certify that the

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
Paul Krugman said at the time that it would not work because it was not enough. And all the economics discussion I've read says it's ok to run up the credit cards a bit in a recession, but you should make sure the money is getting spent domestically and that yes there isa very real long-term struc

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
then I fail to see the rationale for DOMA On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Mainline conservatives for the most part have more in common with > communist > China than democratic America. They have no concerns for the rights of > anyone who does not agree with their nar

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
the money leaves the country when you give it to "job creators" because they have bank accounts in Bermuda. If you spend it on infrastructure then a) bridges over the Mississippi are less likely to fall down, b) you cannot send internet backbone upgrades out of the country (for example) and c) t

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
true about the 5... On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Not sure who you are aiming this at, but if it's at me, you're wrong. > The Labor department considers 5 percent as full employment. Most > people will pay for gas at any price the oil companies set without > complaint, ye

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
you're USING the numbers from that last personal attack. Except you got them wrong. It was 23% in Santa Cruz County and 27% in Imperial County. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Sam wrote: > > Dana is Queen of personal attacks, it's all she knows. > > . > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Maur

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
some of that drive-by went on for weeks. I have things to do, dude. And what innuendo anyway? I just threw out some numbers I think are reasonably accurate (?) but thanks for reminding me why I don't usually comment any more On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Maureen wrote: > > At least she

Re: wow. 115 degrees in the shade.

2011-07-23 Thread Erika L. Rich
I thought you already had that one in the wallet? On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Now there's a picture to keep in the wallet. > > -Original Message- > From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com] > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 5:31 PM > To: cf-community > Subj

Re: friday world

2011-07-23 Thread Erika L. Rich
We did organic veggies this year... zucchini, cukes, peppers, squash, cantaloupe, watermelon and beans. Yum. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Dana wrote: > > meanwhile life happens ;) the organic veggies actually sound like a > good > idea. > 22, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > >

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
i can only buy products that are available for me to buy. if i need a computer for my profession, which I do, i have to buy one that is either made in china or that has lots of components made in china. i have no choice. that makes me a captive consumer. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Sam wrot

Re: Obama 41, Ron Paul 37

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
just don't want to see an establishment candidate for the umpteenth time. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Time to invest in tin foil. > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com

RE: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Eric Roberts
So businesses are consumer creators now too? ROFL. I want what you are smoking... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 5:07 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Capital on the Sidelines On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Grussgott wrote: >

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
Average unemployment was lower during eight years of Bush than during eight years of Clinton. But you can pick a couple of months as your "average". . On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Average unemployment up until Bush ass raped the economy was between 3-3.5% > > -O

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Grussgott wrote: > > Are you implying that finding jobs for people is not their responsibility but > the government's job?? Nope, I'm implying that it's the responsibly of the government to stop impeding job growth by intimidating business. I know you all think

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Grussgott wrote: > > Well, no, my assumption is not that we trick anybody; its simply that in > order to have demand people have to "feel" comfortable taking a risk.  That > takes institutions and a growing economy.  As an example think of buying a > house - th

Re: question for those who buy their own insurance

2011-07-23 Thread Larry Lyons
Canada has this great piece of fiction you don't see in the US called the Crown Corporation. Its a regular company, but it is wholly owned by the government. Seems to be working pretty well. >fwiw I bought insurance for a car I bought in Quebec and it was from a >company, but the insurer was ul

Re: question for those who buy their own insurance

2011-07-23 Thread Larry Lyons
Canada has this great piece of fiction you don't see in the US called the Crown Corporation. Its a regular company, but it is wholly owned by the government. Seems to be working pretty well. >fwiw I bought insurance for a car I bought in Quebec and it was from a >company, but the insurer was ul

Re: friday world

2011-07-23 Thread Larry Lyons
Try getting some predator scents. You can get it from a hunting supply store. >that sounds perfect. the time i put into this list i could be putting into >my organic veggies. if i can keep the deer out of my yard. ~| Order the

RE: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Average unemployment up until Bush ass raped the economy was between 3-3.5% -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Capital on the Sidelines Not sure who you are aiming this at, but if it's at m

RE: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Eric Roberts
I guess...though I don't think they are quite at the corporatist level yet... -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:10 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Capital on the Sidelines Most like a Corporatist Dictatorship. The governme

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Grussgott
Are you implying that finding jobs for people is not their responsibility but the government's job?? Careful with your reasoning Sam ... You're about to talk yourself into a commie position. Remember what conservatives say: let the market dictate what skills are job-worthy and let each person

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Grussgott
Well, no, my assumption is not that we trick anybody; its simply that in order to have demand people have to "feel" comfortable taking a risk. That takes institutions and a growing economy. As an example think of buying a house - that's a pretty big bold bet on the future of the economy! As

Re: Obama 41, Ron Paul 37

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
I wouldn't. . On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "He's the only guy on the national scene that I can see who isn't beholden > to the establishment, and he has a chance to win." > J > > I'd vote for him. > - > ~~~

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
Normal is 4.5% at that point it's said that anyone that really wants to work can. So it's close enough for me to stop bitching but doesn't mean I'd be satisfied. . On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Normal average unemployment is around 3%...so you are comfortable with rat

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
Point is not everyone was able to find work again. Are you implying they are stupid or lazy so it's their own fault? . On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I was out of work because I have cancer.  And when I got well enough > to go back to work, I had no problem finding a jobs -

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Grussgott wrote: > > The question on the table seems to be HOW do we incent purchasing such that > we create growth? You assumption is we need to trick folks into buying unneeded items to keep people working. If that were the case we'd just need to elect Jobs a

Re: Obama 41, Ron Paul 37

2011-07-23 Thread Maureen
Time to invest in tin foil. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > He's the only guy on the national scene that I can see who isn't beholden to > the establishment, and he has a chance to win. > > http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/e

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
Yeah, I'm confused by it. State what you think and stop beating around the bush. . On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > I am a captive consumer, I can only buy the products on offer. This kind of > double-talk doesn't work any longer. > ~

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Maureen
Not sure who you are aiming this at, but if it's at me, you're wrong. The Labor department considers 5 percent as full employment. Most people will pay for gas at any price the oil companies set without complaint, yet will bitch about paying medical costs for sick children. I have neither a mort

RE: question for those who buy their own insurance

2011-07-23 Thread Eric Roberts
I will have to find the criteria my dad sent me (He is a long time HR exec and IT recruiter). He is the one that clued me in to talking to someone at IDES about the issue. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 5:28 AM To: cf-communit

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Maureen
Most like a Corporatist Dictatorship. The government is the corporation. Certainly light years from a true agrarian commune model. And from the Marxist ideal of "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs." On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I

Re: Obama 41, Ron Paul 37

2011-07-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"He's the only guy on the national scene that I can see who isn't beholden to the establishment, and he has a chance to win." J I'd vote for him. - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the

RE: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Normal average unemployment is around 3%...so you are comfortable with rates that are 3 times as high as normal? Would you be comfortable with gas prices 3 times higher than normal? How about we increase your interest rate on your mortgage and credit cards 3 times higher than what they are now..

RE: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Eric Roberts
I would say that China is no long a Marxist state, but a Capitalist dictatorship. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:18 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Capital on the Sidelines Mainline conservatives for the most part have m

RE: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Eric Roberts
+1000 Great question! -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Capital on the Sidelines More importantly, when did mainline conservatives become more enamored of communist China than democrati

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Maureen
I was out of work because I have cancer. And when I got well enough to go back to work, I had no problem finding a jobs - several jobs, in fact. I see no point in always looking at the negative, and I refuse to buy into the scare tactics of politicians who are really only interested in lining th

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Maureen
Conservatives want less government unless it's government telling other how to live their lives - like who to marry, how many kids to have, which drugs to take (hint, anything made by Big Pharma is ok with them), which God to worship. Maybe you missed that entire religious right thing. Oh, and w

Re: RIP Amy Winhouse

2011-07-23 Thread Medic
You said it perfectly. Not surprising, but sad. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Not exactly surprising, but hate to see anyone die at 27 > > > http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/07/23/amy.winehouse.dies/index.html?hpt=hp_c1 > > -Cameron > > ... >

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Grussgott wrote: > > So I'm back to Keynes; if business isn't spending and consumers aren't > spending the only way to kick the economy in the arse is government > spending. But then what about the debt? I dunno but I can't get around the > logic of that concl

Re: Obama 41, Ron Paul 37

2011-07-23 Thread Casey Dougall
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > He's the only guy on the national scene that I can see who isn't beholden > to > the establishment, and he has a chance to win. > > > http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential

Obama 41, Ron Paul 37

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
He's the only guy on the national scene that I can see who isn't beholden to the establishment, and he has a chance to win. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/obama_41_ron_paul_37 ~~

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Grussgott
The question on the table seems to be HOW do we incent purchasing such that we create growth? It has been suggested in this thread that business aren't building more factories and investing because they're afraid of Obama. We then debated if this lack of spending was more due to fear of buildi

RE: wow. 115 degrees in the shade.

2011-07-23 Thread Scott Raley
Now there's a picture to keep in the wallet. -Original Message- From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com] Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 5:31 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: wow. 115 degrees in the shade. It's a bit unseasonable here. It hit 97 on our thermometer in the mountains..

RE: wow. 115 degrees in the shade.

2011-07-23 Thread Scott Raley
Yeah I was gonna go watch but saw that some things were cancelled because of heat. Some actors had to slim down on what they were wearing/carrying. -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:43 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: wow. 1

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
I am a captive consumer, I can only buy the products on offer. This kind of double-talk doesn't work any longer. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Sam wrote: > > What are you talking about? Wynn is not a conservative, and he's not > enamored with China nor am I. > If doing business with China i

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > Mainline conservatives want less government > interference in life which means more freedom for all. > Except for those poor slobs in China. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfu

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Mainline conservatives for the most part have more in common with communist China than democratic America. They have no concerns for the rights of anyone who does not agree with their narrow world view, and they are driven by greed." Now you're being silly. Mainline conservatives want less go

Re: Death More Common Than Layoff in Fed. Agencies

2011-07-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
Larry, you have certainly shown that some contract employees make more than some federal employees and that they somehow managed to score benefits. That doesn't mean on a whole that contractors are more expensive in general. The Economic Policy Institute, a liberal think tank, certainly thinks t

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
Personal attack: That's just fucking retarded. . On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Mainline conservatives for the most part have more in common with > communist China than democratic America.  They have no concerns for > the rights of anyone who does not agree with their narr

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
What are you talking about? Wynn is not a conservative, and he's not enamored with China nor am I. If doing business with China is your issue you should sell all your electronics because you do business with them also. . On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > More importantly,

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
Dana is Queen of personal attacks, it's all she knows. . On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Maureen wrote: > > At least she has the ability to discuss without personal attacks. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
So to hell with the 8% in your area and 22% in other areas because YOU have work? It wasn't so long ago you were out of work. Until unemployment drops to 5% nationwide I am going to complain for my fellow Americans. And you should too. It's not fear mongering it's real concern. . On Sat, Jul 23

RIP Amy Winhouse

2011-07-23 Thread Cameron Childress
Not exactly surprising, but hate to see anyone die at 27 http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/07/23/amy.winehouse.dies/index.html?hpt=hp_c1 -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Maureen
Mainline conservatives for the most part have more in common with communist China than democratic America. They have no concerns for the rights of anyone who does not agree with their narrow world view, and they are driven by greed. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > More

Arnold's son suffers boogie boarding accident

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
Collapsed lung, broken bones for the 13 yeard old. He's in ICU but expected to make a full recovery: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/state&id=8265863 Having been ragdolled in 20 foot waves and living to tell the tale, my heart goes out to this young man and his family. The ocean i

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
More importantly, when did mainline conservatives become more enamored of communist China than democratic America? On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Sam wrote: > > He's actually catering to the wealthy ones while providing service > jobs to the poorer ones. Not sure if housecleaning and blackjac

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
Yep, read about that. The remedy is probably bribery to the right government officials, but that would violate the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, wouldn't it? On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Grussgott wrote: > > Yeah how about those fake Apple stores? Is there any legal remedy? I > doubt it

Re: friday world

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
sadly, i don't have a lawn or a lawnmower. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Maureen wrote: > > > > > Deer will jump the fence unless you put deer friendly plants outside for > > them. > > > > > You don'

Re: friday world

2011-07-23 Thread Casey Dougall
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Deer will jump the fence unless you put deer friendly plants outside for > them. > > You don't need a hunting license to hit a Deer with your lawn mower. just sayin ~| Order

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Casey Dougall
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I choose to see 92% employment as a good thing, and not live in a > state of fear. If you prefer to live in a fear and pretend it's > because you are all concerned about the unemployed, go for it. Those are the only two emotions that control

Re: friday world

2011-07-23 Thread Maureen
Deer will jump the fence unless you put deer friendly plants outside for them. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > thanks folks for the extra suggestions on keep the deer out. there is a > rabbit, too, he's already in my back yard. i'm going with a small mesh fence > around th

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Maureen
At least she has the ability to discuss without personal attacks. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Sam wrote: > > You've lost the ability to have a discussion and have resorted to > drive by innuendos. > Actually you always did that. > > nevermind ~~~

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Maureen
I choose to see 92% employment as a good thing, and not live in a state of fear. If you prefer to live in a fear and pretend it's because you are all concerned about the unemployed, go for it. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Sam wrote: > > That's very selfish of you isn't it? > > On Sat, Jul 2

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Grussgott
Yeah how about those fake Apple stores? Is there any legal remedy? I doubt it but I haven't read much about it. Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > hyperbole aside, china is not a democracy and does not have protection for > individual rights much less em

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
hyperbole aside, china is not a democracy and does not have protection for individual rights much less employee rights. money is power in china, money provides rights. if you have no money, what does that make you? powerless. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Sam wrote: > > He's actually caterin

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
He's actually catering to the wealthy ones while providing service jobs to the poorer ones. Not sure if housecleaning and blackjack dealers would be considered slaves but what do I know. Maybe they give out iPads as prizes. . On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Hello, “th

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
Hello, “the political environment, the regulatory environment, the human resource environment that we're in [is] absolutely delicious.” So he likes the fact that China is chock full of un-free people with no rights who are helpless to fight back against a corrupt government. What was I saying abo

Re: wow. 115 degrees in the shade.

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
foggy and cool earlier, now sunny. should be 80 today, cooler right at the ocean. On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Dana wrote: > > in San Jose it's been 89 or so and people are complaining ;) Cold at night, > at a guess low 50s. Sweater weather in Santa Cruz yesterday, I am told. > ~~

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
hey gov brown, it costs me $30/hr to hire someone to clean my house because of endless state regulations burdening our small businesses. it makes no sense, please provide some leadership in sacramento and help our small businesses survive and prosper. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Sam wrote:

Re: friday world

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
yes i could, not sure i want to. ;-) thanks folks for the extra suggestions on keep the deer out. there is a rabbit, too, he's already in my back yard. i'm going with a small mesh fence around the plants for now, see how that does. i haven't changed my mind about chinese labor, though. we should

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
Exactly, real unemployment is close to 20% statewide but we need not worry about small businesses ability to create jobs as long as we as individuals are still working? Or at least a most of our neighbors. Out of site out of mind? . On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 5:34 AM, Dana wrote: > > why are we a

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
Mobile apps and cloud development. The country is saved. . On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Dana wrote: > > yanno... *I* hear there's a bubble and if you want venture capital now is > the time. But I dunno how limited that is. Mountain View? Silicon Valley? > South Bay? Bay Area?

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
You've lost the ability to have a discussion and have resorted to drive by innuendos. Actually you always did that. nevermind . On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Dana wrote: > > and that's been the response so far right? So why would business change a > model which has, after all, worked well

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Sam
That's very selfish of you isn't it? . On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Maureen wrote: > > 8 percent unemployment in Marin County, where I live.  That means that > 92% of the people here are who want to work are working. > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> Let me get this str

Re: friday world

2011-07-23 Thread Medic
I honestly tried to stop thinking about all this stuff years ago. It's too depressing. We could all be living in a utopia if we unified. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Antholo

RE: Musicians Base

2011-07-23 Thread Rick Eidson
I appreciate all the feedback both on and off the feedback.. I see some of you signed up too! All of you have had some great comments on the site and I will address each one soon. Right now I am a busy SOB! I got a Karate Tournament today for my son, play bass tonight with a classic country band,

Re: question for those who buy their own insurance

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
yep. I worked for a tax lawyer one summer and remember taking a call from a couple of agents informing him that they were seizing a client's Mustang and a laundry list of other stuff. The car sticks out because they were making cracks about the client's little red sports car. And no, I have no ide

Re: question for those who buy their own insurance

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
fwiw I bought insurance for a car I bought in Quebec and it was from a company, but the insurer was ultimately Quebec. I got into the nitty-gritty of that since my dog had an at-fault accident with the car in Chevy Chase MD. That was fun ;) Back on topic, I considered buying a car in Ontario at l

Re: question for those who buy their own insurance

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
not exactly. I believe it is legal so long as he sets his own hours and is responsible to you only for results, ie not supervised by you in any way. Think of the guy you hire to re-do your kitchen. You are hiring his expertise -- he shows you pictures of what you will get and how much it will cos

Re: question for those who buy their own insurance

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Greg Morphis wrote: > > I mean full time 40 hours 1099 by one company/person. > So that is illegal? > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Judah McAuley >wrote: > > > > > I got insurance through the National Association of the Self Employed > > a couple years a

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
why are we arguing about California's unemployment rate? It was about 12.7% overall this past winter. This factored in numbers like 23% in Santa Cruz County and 27% in Imperial County. It also ignored the 98% unemployment rate in undocumented field hands who cannot file for benefits. But then the

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
like poland...and the lawyers in Pakistan ;) On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "All this complaining about slave labor, yet no one will acknowledge that > exactly same situation would exist in the United States if not for the > labor > movement." > > Who won't acknowledge

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
yes On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I agree. And we can start starving the beast by refusing to believe > the propaganda. > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > > > The stakes are higher than that. get rid of democracy and individual > rights > > and w

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
yanno... *I* hear there's a bubble and if you want venture capital now is the time. But I dunno how limited that is. Mountain View? Silicon Valley? South Bay? Bay Area? On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Sam wrote: > > It's a hell of a recovery we're in. Move along folks, nothing to see > here, e

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
because unions CAUSED this mess (tm) didn't you get the memo? ya them and their retirement plans... who do they think they are anyway retiring, ph. The police in San Jose thought they could have a retirement plan; guess we showed THEM. On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Maureen wrote: > > A

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
public company -- responsibility to stockholders. You know the boilerplate as well as I do. On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Not globalize Las Vegas, abandon Las Vegas and take his investment capital > to Macau where he can indeed exploit all that Chinese slave labor with

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Dana
and that's been the response so far right? So why would business change a model which has, after all, worked well for it? "We shouldn't raise taxes on anyone in this economy" reeks of focus group, and probably was carefully crafted through several focus group iterations. And yanno.. I can't say "

Re: friday world

2011-07-23 Thread Maureen
Plant a border of large prickly cactus around the veggies, and another border of deer friendly plants outside the cactus. They'll eat the good stuff, and ignore the stuff inside the cacti. On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > that sounds perfect. the time i put into this list

Re: Capital on the Sidelines

2011-07-23 Thread Maureen
8 percent unemployment in Marin County, where I live. That means that 92% of the people here are who want to work are working. On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Sam wrote: > > Let me get this straight, you have a job so everything is good? What > about the 12-15 unemployed in California? Screw t