Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Maureen
Not much. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > What does Coldplay have to do with rock *weg* ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=h

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Maureen
Trust me. I live in this space. Everything is politics. The sole motivating factor is how much money the labels and media can take to the bank from an act. Make it worth their while, you can have anything you want. If ENOUGH people make noise about these people being the Hall, TPTB will put t

RE: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Eric Roberts
What does Coldplay have to do with rock *weg* -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination? HOVAH! that's my man. he belongs there. Coldplay too! On Tuesday, Dece

RE: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Eric Roberts
Grandmaster Flash has been inducted...WTF does that have to do with Rock. I think they need to change the name to the Music hall of fame and at least be honest about it. http://www.futurerocklegends.com/The_Rap_Question.php Beastie Boys I can see since they skirted Rap/Metal...sorta...but that

RE: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Eric Roberts
And their popularity with the CEO. The criteria means little...it's all politics. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:01 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination? Jay-Z is not a member nor is

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Maureen
Jay-Z is not a member nor is he eligible, at least not as a performer. Coldplay also not eligible for Hall of Fame. They won't be for 10 years. Rules: Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the art

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Tony
HOVAH! that's my man. he belongs there. Coldplay too! On Tuesday, December 13, 2011, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Nope...he is also considered a rock god... > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 6:20 PM > To: cf-commun

RE: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Eric Roberts
Nope...he is also considered a rock god... -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 6:20 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination? I thought that Stevie Ray Vaghn was more of Blues than Rock On

RE: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Eric Roberts
An JayZ is rock how? -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:26 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination? Stevie Ray Vaughn is a blues guitarist, not a rock guitarist. He did, however, have

RE: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Eric Roberts
Neither is Rush or Heart...but JayZ is...WTF? -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination? Wha? Steeley Dan is in the hall but Journey isn't, and rock guitar go

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Maureen
Stevie Ray wasn't that much more blues than Hendrix. All the great rock guitars sprang from blues roots. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Stevie Ray Vaughn is a blues guitarist, not a rock > guitarist. > > He did, however, have more creative mojo than everyone combine

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Maureen
Doobie Brothers belong there too. Not real pleased with the selections most years. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Wha? Steeley Dan is in the hall but Journey isn't, and rock guitar god > Stevie Ray Vaughn isn't? What a joke. Just goes to show you what official > recogni

Re: General question about degrees

2011-12-13 Thread Bruce Sorge
Yeah, I have been with them for three years now. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > You going to be taking classes at AMU? > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > > > Maureen, > > I just did that, changed my major to Information System Security. I'm >

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Exactly, I remember in grad school running experiments and demos - we'd have the person do 2 or 3 simultaneous tasks and required them to do it faster and faster. The participants were very good at 1 or two tasks, but performance deteriorated with each extra task with most people's performance com

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread PT
> Its not a generational thing, its a human limitation thing. So much > attention is captured by the cell phone conversation that only a > minimal amount is left over for other tasks. When driving at 60 mph, > that quarter of a second delay is major. And humans suck at multitasking, no matter how

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Casey Dougall
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Wha? Steeley Dan is in the hall but Journey isn't, and rock guitar god > Stevie Ray Vaughn isn't? What a joke. Just goes to show you what official > recognition is worth. > > http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/12/wheres-the-rock/

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Tony
I wasn't miffed until I read Nugent wasnt. On Tuesday, December 13, 2011, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I thought that Stevie Ray Vaghn was more of Blues than Rock > > On Tuesday, December 13, 2011, Robert Munn wrote: >> >> blues = rock roots >> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Judah McAuley >

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I thought that Stevie Ray Vaghn was more of Blues than Rock On Tuesday, December 13, 2011, Robert Munn wrote: > > blues = rock roots > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > >> >> Stevie Ray Vaughn is a blues guitarist, not a rock >> guitarist. >> >> He did, however, have m

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Medic
Ha, interesting. I just ditched my MBP after a year of honest to goodness effort. It's been a week now am I ever happy to be back on windows box. > so what recommendations do you all have for software. Windows 7? ~| Order the

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Robert Munn
blues = rock roots On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Stevie Ray Vaughn is a blues guitarist, not a rock > guitarist. > > He did, however, have more creative mojo than everyone combined listed > below. Maybe excluding Jethro Tull. > ~~~

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Judah McAuley
Stevie Ray Vaughn is a blues guitarist, not a rock guitarist. He did, however, have more creative mojo than everyone combined listed below. Maybe excluding Jethro Tull. Judah On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Wha? Steeley Dan is in the hall but Journey isn't, and rock g

Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-13 Thread Robert Munn
Wha? Steeley Dan is in the hall but Journey isn't, and rock guitar god Stevie Ray Vaughn isn't? What a joke. Just goes to show you what official recognition is worth. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/12/wheres-the-rock/ The hall’s selective “open-mindedness” explains how ABBA, Neil D

Meanwhile, in the 'duh' category of national news ...

2011-12-13 Thread Robert Munn
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Anyone done SCORM compliance?

2011-12-13 Thread Medic
Has anyone had any experience with SCORM compliance? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Ras Tafari
that was for g money :) i know you do On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > >> so let me get this right, you love cellphones... right :) > > > Yes, I totally love cell phones and Google Voice. I don't utilize the > conven

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Casey Dougall
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > so let me get this right, you love cellphones... right :) Yes, I totally love cell phones and Google Voice. I don't utilize the convenience features as often as others like answering calls and text messages right away, but having the ability

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Ras Tafari
yeah, pretty much as i sad ;) On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Sam wrote: > > http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2010-08-04/50394045.jpg > > > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Vivec wrote: >> >> Forgot link >> >> http://jb.factoryoutletstore.com/details/25603-38892/jabra-stone.html >> >> [image: ja

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Sam
http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2010-08-04/50394045.jpg On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Forgot link > > http://jb.factoryoutletstore.com/details/25603-38892/jabra-stone.html > > [image: jabra stone] > > > On 13 December 2011 16:38, Ras Tafari wrote: > >> >> as cool as crocs >>

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Vivec
Forgot link http://jb.factoryoutletstore.com/details/25603-38892/jabra-stone.html [image: jabra stone] On 13 December 2011 16:38, Ras Tafari wrote: > > as cool as crocs > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Vivec wrote: > > But a red Jabra with a white shirt looks cool. > > ~~~

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Cameron Childress
I guess I'm just not into the "bling culture". I don't need gold teeth, gold chains, or diamond studded bluetooth headsets to broadcast my level of success to the people around me. -Cameron On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Vivec wrote: > This looks sooo cool :) > > ~

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Ras Tafari
as cool as crocs On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Vivec wrote: > But a red Jabra with a white shirt looks cool. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=ho

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Scott Stewart
Saw a dude at a metal show, headbanging with one finger stuck in his ear to hold his blue tooth in... On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:24 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Only one gadget really makes you look cool: A hot wife/girlfriend. > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Cameron Childress >wrote: > > > > > M

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Vivec
This looks sooo cool :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messag

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Ras Tafari
so let me get this right, you love cellphones... right :) On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:56 PM, GMoney wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Casey Dougall < > ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > >> >> It's great for listening to music and news while walking the dog, and just >> overall way

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread GMoney
Only one gadget really makes you look cool: A hot wife/girlfriend. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > More like someone wearing an iPhone around his neck so that everyone knows > he's got an iPhone, because he thinks that an iPhone makes him look cooler. > > -Cameron >

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Cameron Childress
More like someone wearing an iPhone around his neck so that everyone knows he's got an iPhone, because he thinks that an iPhone makes him look cooler. -Cameron On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:25 PM, GMoney wrote: > Is he more of a douche than a person sitting in a group of friends and > paying absol

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Cameron Childress
Our opinions could not be more different on this. -Cameron On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Vivec wrote: > But a red Jabra with a white shirt looks cool. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Ado

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Scott Stewart
"But a red Jabra with a white shirt looks cool." On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Vivec wrote: > > It's actually great for a club because you can actually take a call and the > other person can hear you if you have a good set. > > you can colour-coordinate them too. > > not that I ever have.

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Vivec
It's actually great for a club because you can actually take a call and the other person can hear you if you have a good set. you can colour-coordinate them too. not that I ever have. But a red Jabra with a white shirt looks cool. On 13 December 2011 16:01, Scott Stewart wrote: > > I *cant*

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Tony
lol your still my boy case On Tuesday, December 13, 2011, Casey Dougall wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > >> >> in the car, im ok with. the have no place out of the car. >> >> none. >> >> > > bluetooth headsets are the bomb! Sorry to all the haters, but it's the o

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Scott Stewart
I *cant* walk the dog with a phone, because if MacGregor starts barking I would be able to hear anything.. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:56 PM, GMoney wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Casey Dougall < > ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > > > > It's great for listening to music and

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Cameron Childress
I don't mind the headset. I just think it looks stupid in a bar/club/etc where there is no way in hell they are taking a call of any kind. Just wearing it as a fashion accessory. -Cameron On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > bluetooth heads

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > It's great for listening to music and news while walking the dog, and just > overall way better than holding the phone to my head. Of course that's when > it's charged ;-) > You want to know a better way

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Casey Dougall
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > in the car, im ok with. the have no place out of the car. > > none. > > bluetooth headsets are the bomb! Sorry to all the haters, but it's the only way to take a call. I don't care if you're in your car, at your desk on a mother f^&%ing boa

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Ras Tafari
in the car, im ok with. the have no place out of the car. none. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > the only time I wear mine is in the car.. I can bring myself to be that > much of a douchebag... > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > >> >> On Tue

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
the level of distraction is much much greater. I'd have to do some searching on this again, but from what I remember none of the other activities, such as playing with the radio, talking with another person etc., did not result in as great of a delay as using a cell phone. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Scott Stewart
no there's been a gazillion studies done, that rate the distraction level on par with being legally drunk On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Isn't the level of distraction the same as when fiddling with the radio, > messing with Makeup, or doing anything else other than Driving?

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > HUGE pet peve of mine is being in a bar or otherwise crowded and noisy > place and seeing some asshat wearing a bluetooth thing in his ear as if > it's a piece of jewelry or something. > > "Look at me! I am rich and successful as evide

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Vivec
Isn't the level of distraction the same as when fiddling with the radio, messing with Makeup, or doing anything else other than Driving? Talking to someone next to you in the front seat for example. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Judah McAuley
It is against the law to use a cell phone (without a handsfree device) or text while driving in Oregon. Unlike a number of other states, it is a primary offence here which means they can pull you over even if you aren't doing anything else wrong. They tend to nail people in the evening when it is

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
the data are quite clear, using a cell while driving is like chugging 8 ounces of bourbon and then driving. Here's a pretty good study on it http://www.nsc.org/news_resources/Resources/Documents/A%20meta-analysis%20of%20driving%20performance%20and%20crash%20risk%20associated%20with%20the%20use%20o

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Cameron Childress
I have bluetooth built into my car stereo, so I do use handsfree. I actually dislike the uneven sound of a bluetooth - loud in one ear and quiet in the other. When I am not in the car I use the iPhone headphones w/mic. I prefer having the same volume level in both ears. -Cameron On Tue, Dec 13

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Scott Stewart
the only time I wear mine is in the car.. I can bring myself to be that much of a douchebag... On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > > and fuck eartooth's you wont > > catch me with that douchebaggery in my ear, nor

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Scott Stewart
T-Bone Start driving *A LOT* like I've had to over the last couple of years and you'll have an earpiece stuck in yer ear.. I don't care if you're Ayrton Senna, AJ Foyt and Richard Petty all rolled into one, texting and driving is just stupid. If it's that bloody important pull over. My right to

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > and fuck eartooth's you wont > catch me with that douchebaggery in my ear, nor will you see my phone > on my hip. yeah, no. HUGE pet peve of mine is being in a bar or otherwise crowded and noisy place and seeing some asshat wearing a blueto

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Ras Tafari
i would surmise that us, the video game generation, are far better drivers and multi-taskers than the average person. either on the phone or not, texting or not, im still a better driver than most. and fuck eartooth's you wont catch me with that douchebaggery in my ear, nor will you see my phone

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I saw some research on this recently, the performance of those using a cell phone while in a driving simulator was on the average worse than drunk drivers. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:55 PM, GMoney wrote: > > http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/us/ntsb-cell-phone-ban/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 > > Ban those f

Re: Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread Scott Stewart
"It would not apply to hand-free devices or to passengers." So go buy a $20 Bluetooth earpiece and talk all ya want, Android phones have a speech to text feature that's entirely hands free. My right to a reasonable expectation of safety trumps someone else's "right" to yammer endlessly with a ce

Yes! Yes!

2011-12-13 Thread GMoney
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/us/ntsb-cell-phone-ban/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Ban those fucking things! Today cars, tomorrow barseventually the world! -- Happy Christmas your arse I pray God it's our last ~| Order the Adobe C

Re: General question about degrees

2011-12-13 Thread Scott Stroz
You going to be taking classes at AMU? On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > Maureen, > I just did that, changed my major to Information System Security. I'm > looking over all the classes and it looks very interesting. > > > ~

Re: General question about degrees

2011-12-13 Thread Bruce Sorge
Maureen, I just did that, changed my major to Information System Security. I'm looking over all the classes and it looks very interesting. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Antho

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
My mistake, $5 for the iPad app, free for the client app that goes on the computer. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > Good to know, I will try that out. > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >> btw there's an iPad app called iDisplay that does

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Ray Champagne
Good to know, I will try that out. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > btw there's an iPad app called iDisplay that does the same thing as > AirDisplay, but is free. > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Ray Champagne > wrote: > > > > Oh, also love love love 1Password.

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
btw there's an iPad app called iDisplay that does the same thing as AirDisplay, but is free. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > Oh, also love love love 1Password.  I can't comprehend how I lived without > this for so long.  Cost is well worth it. > > Evernote > Pixelmator

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Ray Champagne
Oh, also love love love 1Password. I can't comprehend how I lived without this for so long. Cost is well worth it. Evernote Pixelmator for light graphics work ($) Adium MAMP RDC Growl iStats ($) Dropbox Hyperdock ($) If you have an iPad, AirDisplay ($) is pretty sweet to use your iPad as a thi

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
so I could set something up like SSMS with this I take it. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > Its an app that wraps a Windows .exe in a Wine emulator, and turns it into > a standalone mac app. > > http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/ > > Wine isn't 100% perfect, but it

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Its an app that wraps a Windows .exe in a Wine emulator, and turns it into a standalone mac app. http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/ Wine isn't 100% perfect, but it solved 2 programs I couldn't live without on the mac. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > OK what's Wine

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Ray Champagne
Navicat has a Mac version now that I can't live without. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Thanks. > > Any suggestions for replacing SQL Server Management Studio that > doesn't cost a lot? > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Cameron Childress > wrote: > > > > I've b

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
OK what's WineBottler? On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > TextWrangler > RapidSVN > WineBottler > Navicat Lite > > +1 adium > +1 eclipse > > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > >> >> I've been trying out IntelliJ with the CFML plugin lately

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Ras Tafari
+1 on aqua data studio On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Try Aqua Data studio, it's relatively cheap and I haven't found a DB yet > that it doesn't talk to. > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >> Thanks. >> >> Any suggestions for replacing SQ

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
TextWrangler RapidSVN WineBottler Navicat Lite +1 adium +1 eclipse On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > I've been trying out IntelliJ with the CFML plugin lately. They have a 30 > day trial. Reminds me a bit of CFStudio. ...and it can import Eclipse > projects. Mi

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Scott Stewart
Try Aqua Data studio, it's relatively cheap and I haven't found a DB yet that it doesn't talk to. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Thanks. > > Any suggestions for replacing SQL Server Management Studio that > doesn't cost a lot? > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:37 AM, C

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Thanks. Any suggestions for replacing SQL Server Management Studio that doesn't cost a lot? On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > I've been trying out IntelliJ with the CFML plugin lately.  They have a 30 > day trial.  Reminds me a bit of CFStudio.  ...and it can impor

Re: New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Cameron Childress
I've been trying out IntelliJ with the CFML plugin lately. They have a 30 day trial. Reminds me a bit of CFStudio. ...and it can import Eclipse projects. Might be worth taking a look. Other things you will find on my system... Instant Messaging: Adium FTP: Transmit Password Management: 1Pass

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Sam
Yeah right, we can't even track the guns we sold to the cartels in Mexico. But if we did do that it would work great until they found out and disabled our disabler. . On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:16 AM, GMoney wrote: > > WOuld it be possible to sell "smart bombs" to countries where the bombs > c

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Think of it, 500 to 1000 pounds of steel encased concrete hitting a target from 20,000 feet up is bound to have an impact. I think that at least it would create a bit of a notice. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Would this be the "Wile E. Coyote" bomb? > > whis

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Scott Stewart
Would this be the "Wile E. Coyote" bomb? whissstlesplat!!! poof.. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Not sure about that, but I heard from a friend of mine in the Canadian > Armed Forces that during the Libyan conflict NATO was fitting JDAMS > system

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Not sure about that, but I heard from a friend of mine in the Canadian Armed Forces that during the Libyan conflict NATO was fitting JDAMS systems onto concrete practice bombs when attacking many targets in urban areas. The bombs hit with enough force to destroy a tank using kinetic kills, but wit

New System - was Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Good comment, speaking of getting new equipment, I just got a new MacBook Pro from work. I have not worked with a Mac professionally in a few years, so what recommendations do you all have for software. So far aside from Builder/Eclipse, ColdFusion, Office for the Mac (I have no choice on that on

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread GMoney
WOuld it be possible to sell "smart bombs" to countries where the bombs could be disarmed remotely? I know that the chips are used to guide the bomb to it's target, but could they be modified to also disengage the firing mechanism somehow so that the bombs would just bounce harmlessly to the groun

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Medic
"Dude. You're getting a Dell." On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > many of them were from the US. > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:43 AM, GMoney wrote: > > > > Really??? WHere were the computers imported from? > > > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Larry C. Lyons >wrot

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Scott Stewart
IBM had back doors into all of their mainframe systems throughout the 70's and 80's (read: Cold War), supposedly so IBM technicians could bypass "locked" systems. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > many of them were from the US. > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:43 AM, GMon

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Cameron Childress
I've heard that many of these were planted in printers. Anything worth printing out was worth knowing about. -Cameron On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Its been done before, in the first gulf war a lot of the imported > iraqi computers and other equipment had some "bu

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread GMoney
Wouldn't we have shipped those to Iraq prior to 1990.perhaps in the late 70's or 80's when we were (supposedly) aiding them in their fight against Iran? On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > many of them were from the US. > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:43 AM, GMoney wro

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
many of them were from the US. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:43 AM, GMoney wrote: > > Really??? WHere were the computers imported from? > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >> Its been done before, in the first gulf war a lot of the imported >> iraqi computers and other e

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread GMoney
Really??? WHere were the computers imported from? On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Its been done before, in the first gulf war a lot of the imported > iraqi computers and other equipment had some "bugs" purposely > installed by the CIA an NSA that helped to cripple the

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its been done before, in the first gulf war a lot of the imported iraqi computers and other equipment had some "bugs" purposely installed by the CIA an NSA that helped to cripple the Iraqi air defense in the initial attacks. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > lol, yah, it co

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Ras Tafari
lol, yah, it could TOTALLY be a plant that helps us get something they arent even close to expecting. hahahahaha On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:31 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >> Of course it could be part of a very perverse idea -  "lose" as dro

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Of course it could be part of a very perverse idea - "lose" as drone > with tech that's not only old, but containing some other features that > may sabotage the iranian efforts. > Ah yeahthat's awesome. This espionage stuff is nuts.

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Sam
Maybe it's a dummy. They'll spend years replicating something that doesn't work and we'll be laughing the entire time. . On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I was listening to a defense analyst on the way home last night. One > of the things he mentioned is that the drone

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I was listening to a defense analyst on the way home last night. One of the things he mentioned is that the drones used in that area are not the most advanced, so that it was considered an acceptable risk to lose one or two. As this guy said, it was not a matter of if but when a drone was lost. O

Re: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Maureen
Seriously? They cheaped out on self-destruct without considering the cost of defending against the drones if the tech fell into empty hands? Just how stupid are they? On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Scott Raley wrote: > > No not all have self destruct. Some just have code to wipe the storage >

RE: Question about drones

2011-12-13 Thread Scott Raley
No not all have self destruct. Some just have code to wipe the storage drive. The one on tv is similar to the one I helped with last year and there was "no money for self destruct" and that would "cause extra weight load". But I didn't say that. -Original Message- From: GMoney [mailto:gm0