Re: "Holidays on I.C.E."

2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
Do you have any idea what fascism entails? On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > How about he was just doing what is right. This isn't the middle ages, > despite the best efforts of your fascist compatriots. > > -Original Message- >

Re: "Holidays on I.C.E."

2012-03-29 Thread Dana
rape prevention translates to luxury somehow? I don't think I want that one explained to me actually -- it will only make me angry. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Oh, Llamar Smith, you are such a witty, witty soul. What are "holidays > on I.C.E." you might ask? Well,

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Dana
btw...Zimmerman very clearly says "fucking coons" On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Dana wrote: > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/16/trayvon-martin-911-audio-_n_1354909.html > > > yeah, it's the Huffington Post but I haven't seen the audio of the 911 > calls posted anywhere else. Warni

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Dana
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/16/trayvon-martin-911-audio-_n_1354909.html yeah, it's the Huffington Post but I haven't seen the audio of the 911 calls posted anywhere else. Warning -- screams are haunting, person is clearly terrified. Names and addresses are edited out. On Thu, Mar 29,

Re: Best Buy to Close 50 Stores, Posts Loss on Restructuring Charges

2012-03-29 Thread Maureen
Best Buys could do a lot better if they would rethink their in-store customer service and check out. Ten minutes to shop, thirty minutes to checkout is why I don't shop there anymore. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Best Buy Forced to Rethink Big BoxJ > > > Best Buy Co.

RE: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
LOL...if this would have been a white person that got shot, Sam and Jerry would be salivating for his execution. -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community

RE: "Holidays on I.C.E."

2012-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
How about he was just doing what is right. This isn't the middle ages, despite the best efforts of your fascist compatriots. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:18 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: "Holidays on I.C.E." He said she

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I guess I have a different definition of the words." Generally speaking, the word "fault" carries a negative connotation. From a dictionary: "responsibility for wrongdoing or failure." So, you may use the word fault and view your actions in any way you want. I'll stick with the common vernac

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"It may be legal and justified, but it's still unequivocally his fault." At this point, all rationality has left the building. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the t

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
I guess I have a different definition of the words. I pulled life support from my mom. I killed her. It was my fault. Was it the right choice? Yes. Do I wish I had done something different? No. Was it still my actions that caused her death? Yes. Zimmerman, it seems, pulled the trigger. He killed

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
Simply because he was the CAUSE of death doesn't make it his FAULT. Fault implies guilt, which cannot be ascertained at this point. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > > then it is not Zimmerman's fault. > > > It may be legal and justified, but it's still unequivocally his fa

Re: "Holidays on I.C.E."

2012-03-29 Thread Sam
He said she said? "I would like to be clear that no member is against the humane treatment of detainees," said Rep. Elton Gallegly, R-Calif. However, Gallegly portrayed the 400 pages of new detention standards made public in February as part of a broader effort by the Obama administration to put

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread K-Sea - dvsDJTV.com
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > > then it is not Zimmerman's fault. > > > It may be legal and justified, but it's still unequivocally his fault. County Jail will show you that Latinos do not get along with African Americans. Just sayin... In Miami and Florida in general

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Medic
> > then it is not Zimmerman's fault. It may be legal and justified, but it's still unequivocally his fault. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=hous

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
Did you read the article? I does say that the investigator was leading the boy, against Zimmerman. She said the investigator said he had children of his own "and seemed angered by it," saying, "I need to prove this was not self-defense." On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@thr

Re: Mali coup led by US-trained captain

2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
Great. God am I sick of our government. Party is irrelevant, they both suck ass. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > I found out some more interesting information about the coup in Mali. > > The rebellion in the north had been quiet for some time. When Europe and > the U

Best Buy to Close 50 Stores, Posts Loss on Restructuring Charges

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
Best Buy Forced to Rethink Big BoxJ Best Buy Co., BBY -6.95% which once out-muscled rivals with stores as big as 58,000 square feet, is moving away from the "big box" business model that it long used to crush competitors in consumer-electronics retailing. The electronics giant—now itself being

RE: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Here is one article... http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/28/10909475-witness-mom-says-polic e-told-her-trayvon-martin-shooting-wasnt-self-defense -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: j

Re: Mali coup led by US-trained captain

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
I found out some more interesting information about the coup in Mali. The rebellion in the north had been quiet for some time. When Europe and the US decided to take over Libya, the US trained the rebels and used them as insurgents in Libya. When the war was over, the rebels returned home, appa

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Unless the kid grabbed the gun and pulled the trigger himself, it is Zimmerman who fired the shot and therefore his fault that the kid is dead." Uhhh. There are at least two main narratives here. One says Zimmerman killed Trayvon for some twisted or misguided reason and the other is that Zimme

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Just because no charges have been filed does not mean a crime was not committed." Okay. But what crime? There might be a crime of battery against Trayvon leading to a defensive shooting or there might be a crime committed by Zimmerman for his actions. I thought it was clear that when I said t

"Holidays on I.C.E."

2012-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
Oh, Llamar Smith, you are such a witty, witty soul. What are "holidays on I.C.E." you might ask? Well, that's what how the House Republican mocked Obama administration efforts to prevent sexual assault and improve living conditions at immigration detention centers. The new guidelines give detainee

RE: Gifts for my kids

2012-03-29 Thread Scott Raley
I filter wireless by mac address so their pc doesn't have internet. They can play all the games/movies that are on the shelf and that's it. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gifts for my kids

RE: Gifts for my kids

2012-03-29 Thread Scott Raley
Dad can you get me tickets to Disney ? I need to bring 3 friends too. -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:54 PM To: cf-community Subject: Gifts for my kids So Finn (the eldest, 12) wants an iPod touch and Caden (youngest, 9) w

Re: Gifts for my kids

2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
Not sure. I figure they're gonna get into trouble one way or the other. I mean they already have computers, they play games, surf the web and all of that. Hell my oldest just told me that his mother allowed him to watch code monkeys on Netflix, I wasn't impressed. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:52 P

Re: Gifts for my kids

2012-03-29 Thread Vivec
I'm wondering about that. With wifi, kids have full access to Facebook, the net and lots of other stuff. How do you control their access when they have a connected device with a screen and browser etc. like a Fire, iPod iPhone etc. ? I've seen some of the things on some 15 year old message boxe

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "It is Zimmerman's fault that kid is dead. " > > At this point, this is not true.  Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty > and he has not even been charged with anything. > > This may change in the future. Unless the kid grabbed the g

Re: Gifts for my kids

2012-03-29 Thread PT
Go to a hotel and tell them you were staying there and left your charger behind. If they keep a lost and found, usually they will hand you a box full of them and let you pick out what you want/need. Chargers, USB cables, whatever. On 3/29/2012 2:59 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > optional/s

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Scott Stroz
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Also, at this point, we don't even have a crime.  There are no charges > pending, unless something has changed recently. Just because no charges have been filed does not mean a crime was not committed. -- Scott Stroz --- You

Re: Gifts for my kids

2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
Plus I'm a PC :) On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:20 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > Yeah right, 2 new Airs at a grand a piece. > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >> A MacBook Air is a pretty good accessory. >> >> noise cancelling bluetooth headphones are nice with the iPod Touch

Re: Gifts for my kids

2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
Yeah right, 2 new Airs at a grand a piece. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > A MacBook Air is a pretty good accessory. > > noise cancelling bluetooth headphones are nice with the iPod Touch or an > iPhone. > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson > wrote:

Re: Gifts for my kids

2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
Cool, thanks. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > required: > Covers. both edge/cases and clear screen protectors. > > > optional/spoiled/irresponsible (ie me) > eventually, an extra charger ability (whether another plug, or just a > standard usb charger, etc). > event

Re: Gifts for my kids

2012-03-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
A MacBook Air is a pretty good accessory. noise cancelling bluetooth headphones are nice with the iPod Touch or an iPhone. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > required: > Covers. both edge/cases and clear screen protectors. > > > optional/spoiled/irresponsible (ie me)

Re: Gifts for my kids

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
required: Covers. both edge/cases and clear screen protectors. optional/spoiled/irresponsible (ie me) eventually, an extra charger ability (whether another plug, or just a standard usb charger, etc). eventually, an extra cable (since one never seems to be enough) On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"At this point, we have a dead kid. Whether or not criminal charges have been filed, let's keep in mind that there was a kid walking back from the store with a bag of skittles and he is now dead." That is true. "It is Zimmerman's fault that kid is dead. " At this point, this is not true. Zimm

Gifts for my kids

2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
So Finn (the eldest, 12) wants an iPod touch and Caden (youngest, 9) wands a Kindle fire. Any must have accessories or whatever they will need for these things? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
Source? On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Right off the bat, witnesses were saying that police were telling them what > to say. I remember hearing that from the initial reports of this incident. > > > -Original Message- > From: V

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
By Zimmerman's own account, he was stalking the kid through the neighborhood and the phone calls (the kid's and Zimmerman's) indicate that the kid was trying to get away from Zimmerman. I'm willing to hold open doubt and say that Zimmerman may not end up being legally culpable. However, not a sing

RE: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Right off the bat, witnesses were saying that police were telling them what to say. I remember hearing that from the initial reports of this incident. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:02 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just ch

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
And it may be his own fault. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Jerry Barnes > wrote: > > > > Also, at this point, we don't even have a crime. There are no charges > > pending, unless something has changed recently. > > At this point, w

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Also, at this point, we don't even have a crime.  There are no charges > pending, unless something has changed recently. At this point, we have a dead kid. Whether or not criminal charges have been filed, let's keep in mind that there was

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Doesn't mean that this crime was not racially motivated." That logic cuts both ways. It doesn't mean that the crime was racially motivated. Also, at this point, we don't even have a crime. There are no charges pending, unless something has changed recently. J - Ninety percent of politici

Re: Kindle Fire for $139

2012-03-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Vivec wrote: > These are Refurbs though. > > Wonder what went wrong so early in the product's life? I don't know but I heard at least some of them were cutters. -Cameron ... ~| Order the A

Re: Kindle Fire for $139

2012-03-29 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
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Re: Kindle Fire for $139

2012-03-29 Thread Vivec
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Kindle Fire for $139

2012-03-29 Thread Cameron Childress
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Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Sam
I'm waiting for Holder to bring felony charges against him. I know, I'll be waiting a long time. . On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:42 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > >> Simply put I see this as race baiting of the worst kind. > > > I can agr

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:42 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > Simply put I see this as race baiting of the worst kind. I can agree with the fact that people on all sides are using in ugly ways. I don't think I would paint the nation with that broad brush, however. Personally, if I had to choose, my fav

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Vivec
Yeah but what does that mean for the Witnesses who say they saw Trayvon beating Zimmerman? His lawyer says that they have witnesses, and the police say they have eye witness reports. Would these people really lie so brazenly about something like this? On 29 March 2012 08:42, Eric Roberts wrote:

RE: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
I just ran across this... http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/03/28/funeral-director-saw-no-signs-fight- trayvons-hands No signs of injures to Martin's hands that would indicate there was a fight or any kind of struggle...this is from the funeral director. -Original Message- From: Vivec [

Re: In other hard to find news...

2012-03-29 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Sam wrote: > > Unanimous: Obama Budget Defeated 414-0 > > I'd link to it but it's hard to find any mention of it. > How nice...every year it's the samewe government contractors sit through weeks of continuing resolutions, fearing eventual furlough, or worse.

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread GMoney
And armed man initiated a confrontation with an unarmed, innocent man. Those are the undisputed facts. Whatever happens after said confrontation begins...even if the the victim starts beating the shit out of his attacker, or if he goes for his gunis the fault of the instigator. 2nd degree mu

In other hard to find news...

2012-03-29 Thread Sam
Unanimous: Obama Budget Defeated 414-0 I'd link to it but it's hard to find any mention of it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archiv

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Scott Stroz
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:42 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Mainly because I agree with him. > > 1. Institutional racism when discovered in this country is quickly stamped > out. Doesn't mean that this crime was not racially motivated. > > 2.  Black on black crime occurs far more often than white on

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Sam
I guess his nose wasn't broken either. . On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Vivec wrote: > > New video AT the police station shows a clean shaven, neat Zimmerman > without the horrible injuries, blood and soiled clothing that should come > from a beating. > > Did they allow him to go home, take

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Not only would they have needed to give him time shower and clean up, but they would have needed to give him a week or so for his supposed injuries to heal. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Vivec wrote: > > New video AT the police station shows a clean shaven, neat Zimmerman > without the horrib

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Vivec
New video AT the police station shows a clean shaven, neat Zimmerman without the horrible injuries, blood and soiled clothing that should come from a beating. Did they allow him to go home, take a shower and clean himself up before taking him to the station I wonder? http://www.huffingtonpost.co