Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
"Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2209570/Now-White-House-admits-knew-24-hours-Al-Qaeda-Libya-attacks.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Confusing statements? Not lies, confusing statements. Suuureee I'm so ready for Nov 7th. But it's like a car wreck, I can't look away, can't walk away. The r

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Maureen
So was Ambassador Rice in possession of the email with the claim from the terrorist group? And which statement did the President make? Or Hillary, other than taking the blame for not increasing embassy security. You called the President a blatant liar. I want to see the blatant lie he told.

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
That was the party line administration wide, and they new better. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:01 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > I'm talking about the presidents statements, the nonsense with > Google/YouTube, and Hillary. > > Smoke and mirrors. > > I guess it was Rice's comments directly that were the li

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I'm talking about the presidents statements, the nonsense with Google/YouTube, and Hillary. Smoke and mirrors. I guess it was Rice's comments directly that were the lies than, but all of this administration were playing like this was just a spur of the moment spontaneous attack. All the way unt

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Maureen
So the CIA is telling the White House what the intelligence assessment says or doesn't say. The press secretary supposedly repeats that assessment, although I don't find him making any statement specifically linking the protests in Libya to the film until several days after the fact, and then onl

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Good thing I'm not voting for him. Also, he doesn't have the CIA to tell him otherwise. All he had to go on was the public info man. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Apparently Romney thought it was the film too... > >

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Apparently Romney thought it was the film too... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original M

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
The are quoting SBU emails by time. Did you read the article? On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Key word...CLAIM > > > Three Ravens Consulting > Eric Roberts > Owner/Developer > ow...@threeravensconsu

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Key word...CLAIM Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mai

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Yup, two of their leaders that need to keep the money flowing. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Two of their leaders sure do agree... > > > Three Ravens Consulting > Eric Roberts > Owner/Developer > o

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Two of their leaders sure do agree... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message-

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Trackers? Hunters? Wagon trains? Gold Rush? Christ man. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > The government also funded those railroads. They gave land grants in the > territories to build the railroads on... > > The construction and op

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
The government also funded those railroads. They gave land grants in the territories to build the railroads on... The construction and operation of the line was authorized by the Pacific Railroad Acts of 1862 and 1864 during the American Civil War during the American Civil War. Congress supporte

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I agree about Iraq, but what was the Panama stuff? General interest, I always heard we handled Just Cause pretty well, many of my NCOs jumped in. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > He also betrayed both the Panamanian and Iraqi people by

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
We didn't pay taxes during the period I mentioned, prior to 1917 there was no such thing. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > A great many of them inherited it from someone else, many of them also > inherited it from someone else. Any new

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Nope, I'm not. We use them under what are referred to advisers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Libya#Libyan_civil_war http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/world/africa/31intel.html?_r=0 I guess I'm just making this shit up huh? On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Eric Roberts < ow..

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
He also betrayed both the Panamanian and Iraqi people by backing out of promises made at the last minute and people died as a result of his dishonor. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 63

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
A great many of them inherited it from someone else, many of them also inherited it from someone else. Any new wealth was done with the help of rads paid for by our tax dollars, were educated in schools paid with our tax dollars...so no, they didn't doing completely independent of any other help

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I'm fighting the FUD on BOTH sides. I'm not voting Romney, I'm not voting Obama. I can't, they are evil, corrupt, lying puppets of corporations and special interests on both sides. I know you have seen me shit talk Romney's nonsense either. His tax plans are nuts, he's as closely related to wa

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Well I do know that we use assets inside a country that are also from that country. Are you denying that? Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Future tense? Do you just pull this shit out of your ass Tim? You make up any excuse rather than admit that Obama was correct? The man can say the words yet you deny that he said them or come up with some bullshit about how they are now future tense?? Wow. You are as delusional as Sam and Jer

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
So tell me about the actions of 5th SFG in 2001. Or the multiple times that bayonets have been used in both recent major conflicts. it was a lie, and a snotty response on an issue that NEITHER of them have any personal experience. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeraven

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Oh please...talk about class warefare. Why do you defend those that would just as soon as shit down your throat than have anything to do with you? Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
"Administration spokesmen, including White House spokesman Jay Carney, citing an unclassified assessment prepared by the CIA, maintained for days that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film." "By the morning of September 12, the day after the Benghazi attack, Re

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
No...that was pointing out Romney's stupidity. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Mes

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Read the constitution? You mean more like shit on it. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Orig

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
I would agree with that Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: LRS Sco

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Maureen
How did he blatantly lie? A group "claimed" responsibility. That doesn't mean they were. Nothing else in the emails indicate who was responsible. >From the Article: "One U.S. intelligence official said that during the first classified briefing about Benghazi given to members of Congress, offi

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
On Libya: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024 2 hours. So he blatantly and knowingly lied about attack on our sovereign territory to the American people. He has done little or nothing to actually respond to these attacks. This is majorly fuck

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
I would need to see where you got these numbers from. Having a 12% approval rating does not, by itself, necessarily mean Israelis feel less 'secure'. But even if there was such a correlation (which does not mean causation) the question still remains...who the fuck cares? The French & Germans (fo

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I meant LTC West. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > He meant Kanye West, I'm sure. > > Personally, I'd question the dude's judgment for dating a Kardashian, > but I'd have to look into the rest of his platform in greater depth. > > Judah > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:10

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
A great many of the things you listed were not paid for by the public, but paid for themselves, or just weren't used. Trappers, hunters, guides, all kinds of people lived out there off the land, many died, some flourished. Also there is a major difference between the local administration and con

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Sam
We're in the context of Obama made Israel more secure than any US president before him. The Israeli's don't agree. That's the point. Don't re-frame the comment. . On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > 4 years ago you would have agreed with me (and maybe you did) when I > said

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Judah McAuley
He meant Kanye West, I'm sure. Personally, I'd question the dude's judgment for dating a Kardashian, but I'd have to look into the rest of his platform in greater depth. Judah On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > West or Keyes? What kind of drugs are they giving you Tim?

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Judah McAuley
Yeah, the military securing our northern and southern borders, not to mention establishing both wars and treaties with the native tribes, had nothing to do with their success. Or the establishment of homesteading rights. Or the legal framework for property disputes, prosecuting criminal acts, esta

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
West or Keyes? What kind of drugs are they giving you Tim? Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts
They are only useful because he agrees with them. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Yes, think gold strike and rail roads when those places weren't even really part of this country, or were only territories. Even those that used public services prior to 1917 weren't spending other American's money for the most part. That is the level of federal government I want us to return to

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
It sure did at mine, first when my dad was still active duty, and later when he was a defense contractor. Regan did what he had to do to win the Cold War. The only real complaint I've had about his was his handling of the air traffic controllers strike, and the expansion of the war on drugs. On

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
In this context, while fighting 2 wars? Against these enemies? Show of weakness, hands down. Seriously, anyone that has studied middle eastern cultures will tell you as much, and this is not just Islamic culture, but even Christians and Jews as well. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Maureen w

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
He's right about that man. How was Bush's rating in Saudi or Iraq you think? Should that have mattered? On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Sam wrote: > > Wow, no need to go all third grade every time I knock a peg out of > your Obama statue. > > . > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Scott Stro

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Oh yeah, the death of PACs and SuperPACs was another ting on my list. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Thankfully, Israelis don't vote in the Presidential election, although I'm > sure there is a lot of slush money coming from their for the SuperPacs. > Frankly, I could care

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I'll agree here, I don't care what other countries think of them. We are the only ones that matter. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > > > Obama's approval rating in Israel is 12% > > > > Apology tour highlights: > > Who the

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
You know, he didn't hurt things, that's really saying something. He got to oversee the end of the cold war, and did some real good in the world, but he was so dry and staid that I don't think people could ever really get passionate about him. Plus his CIA background and some of his family associ

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Maureen
And all of those people did that without using any of the infrastructure or public education for their employees. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:26 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > I disagree. > > A great many of the wealthy in this country come from family wealth built > before all of these things were pre

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I miss Bill. Not his DoJ, but most of the rest of it. He's very charismatic, and hands down the best president we've had since Regan. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Why do you think Barack Obama is an asshole?" > > Let's check the qualifications: > > arrogant: Chec

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I disagree. A great many of the wealthy in this country come from family wealth built before all of these things were prevalent. A great many wealthy got that way through ideas they had themselves, and would have had without any of those things. People have found and worked mines and all sorts

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
So instead we leave our current crop of advisers there with no legal protections what so ever? Great. Good job Mr. President. BTW, there are still very much boots on the ground in Iraq, not many, but they are there. Go look up Doctrine Man on Facebook, he's there right now and posts about it a

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
A pog lower enlisted medic 30 years ago understands current operations as well as a current 20 year infantry NCO with multiple deployments? I'm guessing you don't even know who all the SMUs are much less their purpose and TTPs. Do tell. I gotta hear this shit. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:37 PM,

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
His statement is in the future tense, he was saying what never will happen, not what did happen. He also had already been informed by the CIA that it was an organized attack, and not related to the movie. He lied about it, and his response since then has been laughable. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
We know what he meant by the statement. That business owners built their businesses on the backs of the poor working stiff. It was obvious class warfare, and pandering at it's worst. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > You didn't build

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
It's now been admitted that there were American SOF on the ground in Libya during the revolution. You can google it, but I know that SOFREP.com did a story on it at some point. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > --

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
There are still boots on the ground in Iraq, he drew down, but didn't withdraw. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > > > Let's start with how the Benghazi story was first put out, that it was > not a terrorist act, bu

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
The CIA has already reported they new in less than 24 hours that it was a coordinated terrorist attack and had reported it. He lied in order to try to down play the attack, an attack that the people on the ground had warned them was coming, asked for further support and were denied. No the lead

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Oh and his claim about the 2014 withdrawal time table in Afghanistan. The state department is now in talks in order to extend our stay. Again possibly with out a status of forces agreement, and Karzai has already said they may charge troops that are there after 2014. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:2

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Word. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > In the first debate, Obama was defending the Affordable Care Act by > saying that health insurance premiums have gone up slower than any > time in the last 50 years. That isn't true. Health care spending, yes, > but Obama better kn

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Horses and bayonets for one. That was some bullshit pandering. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Then please elaborate on what items Obama was not truthful... > > > Three Ravens Consulting > Eric Robe

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Because they've read the constitution? On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > The vets that aren't brainwashed by the right...yeah. He has done more for > vets than any republican president has ever done. Remember how fucked up > the VA was

Re: Italian court convicts scientists for no quake warning

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Wow that's nuts. Isn't that kind of prediction still more art than science? On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > > An Italian court convicted 7 scientists on a charge of giving "inexact, > incomplete and contradictory information" about weathe

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I agree with you here, and I think you know that. My dad asked me tonight what things I would like to see in order to stop the corruption that is rampant in our system. To start I would like to see very strict term limits. Next we need to get citizens united over turned yesterday. We also need

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I think he's already used it. It's the only reason I can see for the justice department to continue it's fight. Also, have you read the NDRP? That shit is evil, and yes, I know it just expanded on a Clinton era executive order, but it's wrong. he's the president, and supposedly a constitutiona

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
Should have noted that (from what I remember) Sen. Obama's 'approval ratings' were quite high in other countries...still useless though. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > 4 years ago you would have agreed with me (and maybe you did) when I > said 'who the fuck cares?' to tho

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I too have seen in it all of those places. Ask your average Black how he feels about Jews. Ask your Average Chinese how he feels about Blacks, ask your average Korean how he feels about the Japanese. I've seen more racism out of the southern black community than I have ever seen anywhere else.

Italian court convicts scientists for no quake warning

2012-10-23 Thread Michael Dinowitz
An Italian court convicted 7 scientists on a charge of giving "inexact, incomplete and contradictory information" about weather small tremors felt for months in a small town were signs of an impending earthquake. The scientists were all on Italy's Great Risks Commission and included internationall

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
4 years ago you would have agreed with me (and maybe you did) when I said 'who the fuck cares?' to those same kind of useless numbers touting Sen. Obama's 'approval ratings' in various countries around the world. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Sam wrote: > > Wow, no need to go all third grade

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Maureen
There is no less money in circulation now than there was 20 years ago when Bush took office. It's just in different pockets. If you want to know what is really going on in the world, look at whose pockets the money is in, then look at which politicians they are buying. Blaming it on the fed or

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I know for a fact there are people that have done it on both sides. That being said I really think they are in the small minority. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I think there is still a fair percentage of Americans where his race > comes into play. And I think it work

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Yeah, I almost did one of my classic freak the fuck out's and say shit you can't take back moments. whew. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Sam wrote: > > The race card is used when you have nothing else. Very telling. > > . > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Melvin Thompson > wrote: > > > >

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
We have made a ton of mistakes with the Islamic world. This has distressed me greatly considering the things I've done over seas and under arms, as I can see our hands in the roots of a lot of what's going on today. Putting in the Shah in Iran, maybe even the creation of Israel, I don't know. Ma

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Maureen
If you say so, cause I didn't. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Sam wrote: > > And Obama spent way more but that's not a problem anymore? > > . > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Maureen wrote: > > > > I didn't see a question, just more spin and redirection. > > > > As for how much money Bus

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Nixon screwed our monetary supply, the NRA (national recovery act) screwed up the free economy. The privately held federal reserve owns us lock stock and barrel. We're screwed. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Sam wrote: > > Carter and Clinton started the housing crisis, Bush bailed them out

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Sam
And Obama spent way more but that's not a problem anymore? . On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I didn't see a question, just more spin and redirection. > > As for how much money Bush spent, he turned a substantial surplus into a > substantial deficit, so without looking up the

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Yeah that was a pretty shallow comment. Pretty damned close to Godwin's Law. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I don't think that is the case with Jerry. He dislikes Obama intensely, > but it has nothing to with Obama's ethnicity, only his political stance. > I've been readi

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Sam
I thought Kennedy stole the election. The 80's is when I had to trade my house in the Hamptons for my restaurant. Yeah, they were good times. . On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Maureen wrote: > > So stealing a presidential election is ok with you? I'll remember that the > next time you start

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I blame Lincoln. Everything has gone down hill post reconstruction. Slavery, racism and women's rights needed to be dealt with, and could have been better. There needed to be less religious based laws at local and state level, and there were certainly problems, but from the standpoint of libert

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Judah McAuley
Obama did come out against the NDAA as written and when it wasn't modified, he did include a signing statement saying that the detention provisions absolutely did not apply to US Citizens, so I think you are rather overstating your case. Would I have preferred that he veto it? Yes. But was he a ch

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Maureen
So stealing a presidential election is ok with you? I'll remember that the next time you start squawking about voter fraud. Unless a lot of people, I don't worship at the altar of Reagan. I could give you a list of everything that went wrong under Reagan, but I'm sure you'd simply blame it on C

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I would vote for West or Keyes in a heart beat. That argument is such bullshit. I'd say in this country, majorly in the last election, and still to a certain lesser extent in this election, people have voted for him due to his color. I know at least one person on this list that openly admits it

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
NDAA? NDRP? Admitted he wants to bring back the assault weapons ban, even though that type of weapon is almost never used in violent crime, and as a military style weapon should be the most protected in the inventory. Bush was bad, Obama has been bad, Romney would be bad. All of them have majo

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Sam
Did we change the scope again? . On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Maureen wrote: > > > And I repeat, when did it become a sin to admit a mistake? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldf

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
That's what I was thinking. They are both steaming piles of lying feces. They are both going to spend more of our money, and they are both going to make us less free in the end. Gary Johnson 2012!! On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > I can say the same for Obama. > > Sent

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Sam
I would prefer a prez that covers up an amateur break in for a wiretap over the Fast and Furious cover up that killed people. Reagan, really. So much prosperity for this country offended you? . On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Discussions are meant to be an exchange of opini

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Maureen
I didn't see a question, just more spin and redirection. As for how much money Bush spent, he turned a substantial surplus into a substantial deficit, so without looking up the numbers, I would say he spent a lot - most of it on tax cuts for his buddies, and those two wars he started. On Tue, O

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Maureen
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Sam wrote: > > > So now we don't care if Israel feels more secure with Obama? Sorry I > responded to the question. > I've never cared. As for we, do you have a mouse in your pocket? > http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apology > > 2. an admission of e

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-23 Thread Sam
You didn't answer the question. . On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I knew I should have bet that dollar that it would take you less than 10 > minutes to respond in support of the Shrub. Still think you are Karl Rove > in drag. > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Sam wrote:

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2012-10-23 Thread Sam
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Thankfully, Israelis don't vote in the Presidential election, although I'm > sure there is a lot of slush money coming from their for the SuperPacs. > Frankly, I could care less what they approve of. Israel has had too much > influence on Ameri

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2012-10-23 Thread Melvin Thompson
The race card is what people(this doesn't apply to all but a majority) try to hide publicly, but behind close doors truth is spoken...Just facts shown on a regular basis...I've seen it happen to others and experienced it personally...in the military, in the Gov't contracting secured world , and

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2012-10-23 Thread Sam
Wow, no need to go all third grade every time I knock a peg out of your Obama statue. . On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Who the fuck cares? > > I recall 4 years ago similar things being said about Pres. Bush and > his 'approval rating' in other countries - as well as the

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2012-10-23 Thread Maureen
I knew I should have bet that dollar that it would take you less than 10 minutes to respond in support of the Shrub. Still think you are Karl Rove in drag. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Sam wrote: > > Carter and Clinton started the housing crisis, Bush bailed them out to > the tune of $700i

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2012-10-23 Thread Maureen
Thankfully, Israelis don't vote in the Presidential election, although I'm sure there is a lot of slush money coming from their for the SuperPacs. Frankly, I could care less what they approve of. Israel has had too much influence on American politics for too long. And even though you are in the

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2012-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
I think there is still a fair percentage of Americans where his race comes into play. And I think it works both ways. There are likely people who will vote for him solely based on his race. There are likely people who won't vote for him solely on his race. I will not hazard a guess which of those

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2012-10-23 Thread Sam
The race card is used when you have nothing else. Very telling. . On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Melvin Thompson wrote: > > it doesn't apply to everyone, but probably a majority... especially alot of > the people I work with in the Gov't facilities based on their comments... > ~

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2012-10-23 Thread Melvin Thompson
So you are saying "truly-stated facts" is considered apologizing... guess I better not tell my wife I have to stop watching so much football on Sunday cause I'll be apologizing to her for watching too much football... straight Ludicrous.. -Original Message- >From: Sam >Sent: Oct 23

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2012-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > Obama's approval rating in Israel is 12% > > Apology tour highlights: Who the fuck cares? I recall 4 years ago similar things being said about Pres. Bush and his 'approval rating' in other countries - as well as then Sen. Obama's 'approval ratings

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2012-10-23 Thread Sam
Carter and Clinton started the housing crisis, Bush bailed them out to the tune of $700ish billion but they paid it back. Where did that money go? Re-invested in shovel ready jobs? No we borrowed another $800 b for that. Imagine if Bush spent that much money in four years. . On Tue, Oct 23, 2012

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2012-10-23 Thread Sam
Obama's approval rating in Israel is 12% Apology tour highlights: http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/03/morning-bell-president-obamas-top-ten-apologies/ . On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > >> Says he has done more for Israel's security than any other president >> **

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2012-10-23 Thread Melvin Thompson
it doesn't apply to everyone, but probably a majority... especially alot of the people I work with in the Gov't facilities based on their comments... -Original Message- >From: Maureen >Sent: Oct 23, 2012 9:03 PM >To: cf-community >Subject: Re: anyone watch last night's debate? > > >I

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2012-10-23 Thread Sam
They were nothing alike http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/062212-615871-fast-and-furious-different-than-wide-receiver.htm?p=full . On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > >> Fast and furious began under the Bush administration >> *** >> It did...Bush also trie

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2012-10-23 Thread Maureen
I don't think that is the case with Jerry. He dislikes Obama intensely, but it has nothing to with Obama's ethnicity, only his political stance. I've been reading Jerry's posts for years, and I've never seen any sign of racism. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Melvin Thompson wrote: > > It all

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