RE: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons...

2014-06-19 Thread Eric Roberts
: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons... On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > It's shelf life expired 20 years ago. These were weapons from the > late 80's/early 90's. You probably couldn'

Re: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons...

2014-06-19 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
sj.com/articles/sunni-extremists-in-iraq-occupy-saddams-chemical-weapons-facility-1403190600 That points out that the plant made Sarin, VX and Mustard Gas. Again, I'm not a chemist (most of your email went well over my head) but even if they couldn't, there is still the intimidation

RE: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons...

2014-06-19 Thread Eric Roberts
easing the purity of the precursor and intermediates and incorporating stabilizers such as tributylamine. In some formulations, tributylamine is replaced by diisopropylcarbodiimide (DIC), allowing sarin to be stored in aluminium casings. In binary chemical weapons, the two precursors are stored se

Re: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons...

2014-06-19 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > 16.32 Isis jihadists have seized a chemical weapons facility built by > Saddam > Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department > officials have told the Wall Street

Re: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons...

2014-06-19 Thread Bruce Sorge
eapon out of just about anything they can get their hands on. On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Here is the complete section: > > 16.32 Isis jihadists have seized a chemical weapons facility built by > Saddam > Husse

RE: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons...

2014-06-19 Thread Eric Roberts
quot; -Original Message- From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:36 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons... If they are unusable, why do we give a shit that ISIS has them now? On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1

RE: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons...

2014-06-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Here is the complete section: 16.32 Isis jihadists have seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal: Quote U.S. officials don't believe the Sunni militants will be ab

RE: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons...

2014-06-19 Thread Eric Roberts
aq war, which is why they were considered unusable. > > -Original Message- > From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:36 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons... > > > Appare

Re: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons...

2014-06-19 Thread Vivec
lto:chumph...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:36 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons... > > > > > > Apparently I was wrong > > > > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middle

Re: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons...

2014-06-19 Thread GMoney
were considered unusable. > > -Original Message- > From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:36 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons... > > > Apparently I was wrong > >

RE: I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons...

2014-06-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Hussein didn't have chemical weapons... Apparently I was wrong http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/10910868/Iraq-crisis-Obama-may-launch-air-strikes-without-Congress-amid-calls-for-Maliki-to-go-live.html Iraq crisis: Isis jihadists 'seize Saddam Hussein's c

I thought Hussein didn't have chemical weapons...

2014-06-19 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Apparently I was wrong http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/10910868/Iraq-crisis-Obama-may-launch-air-strikes-without-Congress-amid-calls-for-Maliki-to-go-live.html Iraq crisis: Isis jihadists 'seize Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons stockpile' - live 17.09 C

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Gruss Gott
't sure if syria had their own then we really don't know mch of anything. In other words, the Iraq G-2 wasn't actionable by the US military because it sucked so I doubt it'd be any better now with Syria. On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:34 PM, GMoney wrote: > > If true, i

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Sam
Except it's a recap from years ago, just a reminder that you were wrong, in case you still pretend everything is a conspiracy. . On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Perhaps. But that article and the presentation of it now with the > inclusion of the supposed WMD's from Iraq, an

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Maureen
Perhaps. But that article and the presentation of it now with the inclusion of the supposed WMD's from Iraq, and the timing of it, is pure propaganda. One reason that propaganda is so effective is that it contains just enough of the truth to allow those who tend toward fear to accept it as fact.

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Jerry Barnes
" Same old propaganda nonsense. Now we have to go to war against Syria because they have WMD's. Do they serious think the people will fall for that again? " They don't care if people fall for it or not. They just need a reason. Another opportunity for Obama to double down on his duplicating

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Sam
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Was that the guy that told the US that Saddam had all these > stockpiles...and then said he was lying about it? > The intelligence that they supposedly acted upon? No > Don't believe it. And even if Syria has chemical weap

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Sam
A lie? I don't remember that. Point is, it was never debunked and Russia was accused of being involved. Now it seems Russia doesn't want us to mess with Syria and they warned Syria not to use the WMD's. Could be they don't want us to find them or know where they came from. . On Tue, Jul 24, 201

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Vivec
Was that the guy that told the US that Saddam had all these stockpiles...and then said he was lying about it? The intelligence that they supposedly acted upon? Don't believe it. And even if Syria has chemical weapons, so what? The US and dozens of other countries have them as well. In this

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Sam
Georges Sada - A former Iraqi general John Shaw - a former deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security Syria themselves claiming they have huge stockpiles. Of course nothing matters if it doesn't fit your view. . On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Maureen wrote: > > In

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I was referring to Iraqi forces transferring WMD's to Syria. There was an initial accusation by the Bush administration but that was shown to be a lie at the time. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Credibility creates itself. Just say something often enough and it's >

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Credibility creates itself. Just say something often enough and it's believed to be true. Especially on the web. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I've been looking and found nothing credible on the web. > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:40 PM, GMoney wrote: > > > > True tr

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
at 4:06 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Same old propaganda nonsense. Now we have to go to war against Syria > because they have WMD's. Do they serious think the people will fall > for that again? > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:34 PM, GMoney wrote: > > > > If true, it begs t

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I've been looking and found nothing credible on the web. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:40 PM, GMoney wrote: > > True true and true. So there is no mention of this in any credible source? > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> >> Investors.com, The New York Sun, an Iraq General wit

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Syria has been known to have chemical weapons since the 1980's when they suppressed an Moslem Brotherhood revolt in Hama with chemical weapons. Some time or other look up Hamas Rules. What is happening is typical of Syria. Hama for instance has similar massacres in 1975, 1981, 1982 1993 and

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread GMoney
True true and true. So there is no mention of this in any credible source? On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Investors.com, The New York Sun, an Iraq General with a book deal. > Propaganda, propaganda, and propaganda. > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:25 PM, GMoney wrote: > > > >

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Maureen
I don't care who posted it. I read the article and made a decision on whether it met my smell test. It didn't. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:25 PM, GMoney wrote: > And why are we so quick to label it as a such? Because sam posted it?

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Maureen
Investors.com, The New York Sun, an Iraq General with a book deal. Propaganda, propaganda, and propaganda. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:25 PM, GMoney wrote: > > I don't think the propaganda in this case is meant to promote a next war, > so much as to validate a past war. > > And why are we so quic

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Same old propaganda nonsense. Now we have to go to war against Syria > because they have WMD's. Do they serious think the people will fall > for that again? > I don't think the propaganda in this case is meant to promote a next war, so much

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Sam
Obama and the neocons . On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Same old propaganda nonsense. Now we have to go to war against Syria > because they have WMD's. Do they serious think the people will fall > for that again? > ~

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Maureen
Same old propaganda nonsense. Now we have to go to war against Syria because they have WMD's. Do they serious think the people will fall for that again? On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:34 PM, GMoney wrote: > > If true, it begs the question: Why have chemical weapons at all? > > I

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Sam
The weapons were to be used against their own people, neighboring countries and maybe to be given to terror groups. Not to deter a super power like the US. . On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:34 PM, GMoney wrote: > > If true, it begs the question: Why have chemical weapons at all? > > I

Re: Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread GMoney
If true, it begs the question: Why have chemical weapons at all? I meanhere is a country on the eve of invasionand instead of preparing their most feared "weapon" for defense...they are hiding it in another country. Yeeesh. What's the point? Why have a weapon tha

Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

2012-07-24 Thread Sam
I wonder if this is true? http://news.investors.com/article/618875/201207191902/syria-chemical-weapons-came-from-iraq-.htm War On Terror: As the regime of Bashar Assad disintegrates, the security of his chemical arsenal is in jeopardy. The No. 2 general in Saddam Hussein's air force says

Re: wrinkle for offshore drilling: chemical weapons

2008-10-19 Thread Larry Lyons
>Seems that some people are a tad worried about the idea of drilling >off the Atlantic coast because the Army has dumped approximately 64 >million pounds of chemical weapons off the coast and isn't quite sure >where all of them are. Oops. > >http://www.pressofatlanticcity.co

wrinkle for offshore drilling: chemical weapons

2008-10-19 Thread Judah McAuley
Seems that some people are a tad worried about the idea of drilling off the Atlantic coast because the Army has dumped approximately 64 million pounds of chemical weapons off the coast and isn't quite sure where all of them are. Oops. http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/184/story/289801

RE: Chemical Weapons

2003-10-02 Thread Nick McClure
I’m not claiming it’s a good source, I was just posting a working article :) -Original Message- From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Chemical Weapons e horrible horrible source.  These guys ran a

RE: Chemical Weapons

2003-10-02 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Just trying to throw a rope to the administration here fellas. M -Original Message- From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Chemical Weapons e horrible horrible source.  These guys ran a

Re: Chemical Weapons

2003-10-02 Thread Jim Campbell
in E.O. 12958. > >-Original Message- >From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:27 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Chemical Weapons > > >I'm having trouble getting to this story, > >Here is another: >http://w

RE: Chemical Weapons

2003-10-02 Thread Heald, Tim
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:27 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Chemical Weapons I'm having trouble getting to this story, Here is another: http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34881 <http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_

RE: Chemical Weapons

2003-10-02 Thread Nick McClure
I'm having trouble getting to this story, Here is another: http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34881 -Original Message- From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:50 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Chemical Weapons

Chemical Weapons

2003-10-02 Thread Haggerty, Mike
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_399454,00050004.htm    Short on details, but Kumait has supposedly stopped a shipment of chem weapons from Iraq to Europe. M [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscri

RE: Chemical weapons trailers weren't..

2003-08-16 Thread bbraver_cf
o with > the refinement of oil. > > There are a lot of articles like this in the news right now in Europe, I > am curious why they are not being reported over here... > > M > > -Original Message- > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thu

RE: Chemical weapons trailers weren't..

2003-08-15 Thread Haggerty, Mike
AM To: CF-Community Subject: Chemical weapons trailers weren't.. Have you seen any coverage that the conclusion about those chemical weapons trailers is that they weren't weapons trailers after all? A few people have told me they heard reports in Europe, but I haven't seen anything on

Chemical weapons trailers weren't..

2003-08-14 Thread Angel Stewart
Have you seen any coverage that the conclusion about those chemical weapons trailers is that they weren't weapons trailers after all? A few people have told me they heard reports in Europe, but I haven't seen anything on CNN or the other news channels...or did I just miss