Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-10 Thread Dave l
ok that was dumb, that could apply to about any of them. Just cause its .net doesnt mean its the best, if you like it great, i think its crap. Would be a smaller better smelling crap if you could install and natively run it on something other that a virus/patch box. it all goes back to what

RE: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-10 Thread Nick McClure
10, 2007 9:31 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together ok that was dumb, that could apply to about any of them. Just cause its .net doesnt mean its the best, if you like it great, i think its crap. Would be a smaller better smelling crap if you could install and natively

Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-06 Thread G Money
On 6/5/07, Dave l [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well dont be stupid.. of course they are there to make money, thats a given.. Ok, i'll try not to be stupid They just go about different ways of doing it. And like I said before. microsoft tries to control everything by doing everything and the

RE: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-06 Thread Nick McClure
. Even if you use a blackberry it still connects to Exchange or Outlook. They did this through innovation and integration. -Original Message- From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together

RE: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-06 Thread Nick McClure
This just doesn't make sense. Backups are a integral part of any network regardless of OS or Hardware. Physical crashes of equipment, human error or some sort of disaster can require that you have a backup that is easy to access and restore. I don't care what it is, find a way to back it up.

Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-06 Thread Dave l
The best...which is why all our stuff is done in .NET these days. thats just the point, bill must give u such a stiffy that u think u can just use .net and everything is the best. Because of course any code written in .net is just superior to anything else on the planet. Personally, Im not

Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-06 Thread G Money
Wow...why the animosity? I won't respond to most of this junk, other than to say that I LOVE many non MS technologies...one of which should be blatantly obvious. On 6/6/07, Dave l [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best...which is why all our stuff is done in .NET these days. thats just the point,

RE: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-06 Thread Nick McClure
Then you probably weren't doing it right, or just simply weren't actually using the full .NET capabilities. -Original Message- From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together The best

Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-05 Thread G Money
Do you really believe this? This seems like M$ paranoia run amok. Ok, i'm fine with the whole MS is the devil thing, but that does not necessarily make their competing companies some sort of consumer angels. I got bad news for you, Apple is trying to do one thing, and one thing only: Make money.

RE: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-05 Thread Duane
To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together Do you really believe this? This seems like M$ paranoia run amok. Ok, i'm fine with the whole MS is the devil thing, but that does not necessarily make their competing companies some sort of consumer angels. I got bad news for you

Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-05 Thread Robert Munn
I think they are more interested in being cool than MSFT. These two companies reflect the personalities of their founders. Gates sees himself as a dork who sees utility in computing and doesn't mind artlessly crushing the competition. Jobs sees himself as a hipster who sells products for other

Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-05 Thread Dave l
well dont be stupid.. of course they are there to make money, thats a given.. They just go about different ways of doing it. And like I said before. microsoft tries to control everything by doing everything and the result is a bunch of REALLY shitty applications that are half assed done and

Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-05 Thread Robert Munn
Apple does not always make or sell the best products. They try to innovate, and for the most part they have been very successful at innovating. But innovation carries risk and sometimes they come up short in the quality department. Remember the Cube? Was it called the Cube? The clear plastic cube

Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-05 Thread Dave l
Im not saying that they dont. btw~ you were mentioning hardware products and not software and of course when you innovate a new product there are issues. But m$ doesnt really innovate anything, they copy, buy or crush. So they dont really get to get off with that excuse. Take the Zune for

Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-04 Thread Dave l
I liked how bill cowered in his chair like a lil girl constantly looking at steve for either approval or to see if steve was reaching over to knock him out. I also liked how when discussing what they want their companies to be and bill says we want to be everything to everybody and steve says

Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-04 Thread Robert Munn
To me that expresses in a nutshell the strategy of both companies. Microsoft isn't trying to be the best in every category. They want to be the dominant player, but not the best, because being the best isn't necessary in their view. On 6/4/07, Dave l wrote: I also liked how when discussing

Re: Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-06-04 Thread Dave l
look at their products(ms), obviously they dont have a care in the world about doing it the best, they would rather be the only. That just reiterates the point that ms doesnt care about the user experience as long as they forked out the money for the program, whereas Apple tries to do it right

Gates and Jobs on stage together

2007-05-30 Thread Robert Munn
Same place where they showed off the Surface computer. It's just up the road at the Aviara Resort, I wish I could get in. http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_6018366?source=rss -- --- Robert Munn www.funkymojo.com ~|