Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-24 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Republicans are desperately trying to co-opt the Tea Party. Gingrich is an ass, he needs to sit down and shut the f#ck up." I couldn't agree more. The Tea-Parties are very close to upset the status quo in the Republican Party. See the 2009 special election for New York's 23rd congressional di

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-24 Thread Jerry Barnes
"HE WAS WORKING ALL THE THE ANGLES!" No shit. Dude will say anything to be on TV ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.hous

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-24 Thread Robert Munn
Let's say it is an indicator, or perhaps a symptom, rather than a definition, i.e. "You know you live in a socialist country when the federal government spends forty percent of GDP." On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Dana wrote: > > since when? Perhaps you know something I don't but I have neve

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Maureen
Redistribution of wealth was once an economic theory. Now it is only a catchphrase used by politicians and media ghouls to convince the masses to fight over ten percent of the economy while the politicos and their corporate overlords make off with the other ninety percent. There is no logic, onl

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Larry Lyons
Unfortunately the consequences of isolationism have risen up and bitten us on our collective butts more than once. Given how much this nation is connected to the rest of the world (think energy alone), isolationism just cannot work. It essentially comes down to in the end is that we're either e

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread denstar
This one was a groaner, but I appreciate groaners. :) -- Action seems to follow feeling, but really action and feeling go together; and by regulating the action, which is under the more direct control of the will, we can indirectly regulate the feeling, which is not. William James On Fri, Apr

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread denstar
I hear it, but honestly, I don't think there's any going back at this point. We're just going to have to power through it. All ahead, full steam. Top o the world, ma! :den -- Act as if what you do makes a difference. It does. William James On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:52 PM, LRS Scout wrote: >

RE: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread LRS Scout
PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:07 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Explain the logic of redistribution of wealth to me please. Money isn't even "real" these days, so it gets

RE: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread LRS Scout
I don't like it either way Dana, and you know better. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 8:15 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement. well let&

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread denstar
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:07 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Explain the logic of redistribution of wealth to me please. Money isn't even "real" these days, so it gets redistributed *a lot*. It just seems like there's a whole group of people who don't mind when it's redistributed for war, yet get their

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Dana
f redistribution of wealth to me please. > > -Original Message- > From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 6:18 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the > Co

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Brian Thornton
ay, April 23, 2010 6:18 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the > Conservative Movement. > > > That would require logic Den... > > -Original Message- > From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] &g

RE: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread LRS Scout
Movement. That would require logic Den... -Original Message- From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement. Yeah, seems like a weak

RE: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Eric Roberts
That would require logic Den... -Original Message- From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement. Yeah, seems like a weak definition

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Dana
agreed On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 2:59 PM, denstar wrote: > > Yeah, seems like a weak definition, as then dictator governments where > the people have *no say whatsoever* (unlike here) in spending would > qualify as socialist too. > > It doesn't really seem to be about money, per se, to me. > > I j

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread denstar
Yeah, seems like a weak definition, as then dictator governments where the people have *no say whatsoever* (unlike here) in spending would qualify as socialist too. It doesn't really seem to be about money, per se, to me. I just wish the same people who were not up in arms about spending buttloa

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Dana
since when? Perhaps you know something I don't but I have never heard that definiteion before. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > It socialism as defined by government spending a certain percentage of > GDP. ~

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Robert Munn
Republicans are desperately trying to co-opt the Tea Party. Gingrich is an ass, he needs to sit down and shut the f#ck up. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Absolutely crazy. > > "Gingrich said the movement is a "natural expression of frustration with > Republicans and anger at

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Robert Munn
It socialism as defined by government spending a certain percentage of GDP. In the US the number used to be 30%, now it is 35% and headed to 40%. The UK is at 40%, which is considered a threshold of sorts for a socialist government. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Dana wrote: > > well actually

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Dana
well actually it *is* socialism, just not in the usual sense or in the way Obama's critics mean. It's socialism in that it insures the risks of the multinationals and prevents them from failing. Where this differs from socialism, however, is that the county has guaranteed itself that it will not r

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Dana
...@wiredotter.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:10 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the > Conservative Movement. > > > I'm just not seeing the socialist machine, myself. > > Did we get single payer hea

RE: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Eric Roberts
And your comment has what to do with what I said? -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 7:37 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement. Some people believe

RE: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Justin Scott
> We established a national bank long ago. > What do you think the federal reserve BANK is? Nearly every industrialized nation in the world has a central bank of some kind which serves the same functions as the Federal Reserve: * Increase or decrease the money supply * Set base interest rates *

RE: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread LRS Scout
grich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement. Did you lose your glasses Jerry? *grin* Eric -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 7:42 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gingrich admits that th

RE: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread LRS Scout
Agreed, wouldn't that be the militias? -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:42 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement. I'm just not

RE: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread LRS Scout
We established a national bank long ago. What do you think the federal reserve BANK is? -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:10 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Brian Thornton
HE WAS WORKING ALL THE THE ANGLES! From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich#Public_Image "Newt first married Jackie Battley, his former high school geometry teacher, when he was 19 years old" On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > I thought the point was: Just

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
I thought the point was: Just because New Gingrich says something, it doesn't mean it's true. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: htt

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-23 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > I'm just not seeing the tea-party movement becoming the militant wing of the > Republic party, myself. The point there, I think, was really about whether they would stay part of the Republican Party or be 3rd party. Nate Silver's site had

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-22 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Did you lose your glasses Jerry?" No way man. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/m

RE: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-22 Thread Eric Roberts
Did you lose your glasses Jerry? *grin* Eric -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 7:42 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement. I'm jus

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-22 Thread Jerry Barnes
I'm just not seeing the tea-party movement becoming the militant wing of the Republic party, myself. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-22 Thread Judah McAuley
I'm just not seeing the socialist machine, myself. Did we get single payer health insurance? No, we required everyone to buy insurance from private, frequently for-profit, companies. Did we establish a national bank? No, we loaned them money, in some cases in exchange for non-voting equity stake

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-22 Thread Jerry Barnes
* *Newt Gingrich called President Obama's White House "the most radical administration in America's history," as well as a "secular socialist machine." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100409/ap_on_re_us/us_republicans_gingrich I think he's right and Obama's administration a socialist machine.

Re: Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-22 Thread Scott Stroz
so, now you are listening to Gingrich? :D On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Absolutely crazy. > > "Gingrich said the movement is a "natural expression of frustration with > Republicans and anger at Democrats," which is "more likely to end up as the > militant wing of the Republic

Gingrich admits that the Tea Party is the Militant wing of the Conservative Movement.

2010-04-22 Thread Vivec
Absolutely crazy. "Gingrich said the movement is a "natural expression of frustration with Republicans and anger at Democrats," which is "more likely to end up as the militant wing of the Republican Party" than as an independent or third party." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/22/newt-ging