oh yeah. Oops. Would be less embarrassed if I hadnt been correcting you :)
>Socrates drank the hemlock not Plato.
>
>Actually on a side note, When I was taking philosophy in university,
>Socrates was always discussed through Plato's writing. Plato had a really
>bad case of hero worship when it cam
know if you and I can be friends after this. But be thankful Li
>(Don) Chunshen did not cut off all communication from you like he did
>with me.
>
>M
>
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>Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 1:51 PM
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> he called me a BITCH!
> That...that bastard!
He killed Kenny!
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f all communication from you like he did
with me.
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From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 1:51 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Don (Was RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE)
*lower lip trembles*
*corner of eye twitches*
Did you see?
...
Did yo
Thanx so much everybody! Will be fine :-)
Boss made joke
(very unusual for him to make pun)
Warning: possible medical TMI:
I said they were probably going to do a spinal anesthetic
rather than a general (safer for me). Hoped they would
tranquilize me enough that I wasn't aware what was going on
Re: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
You've defined the word, BITCH clearer than anyone else. So, you could
stop here now. Clear?
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Hey Ben,
Good luck.
larry
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> From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:35 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Surgery (Was RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE)
>
>
> Thanks so much, Patrick - Mon. 3/29 for th
Ditto that!
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Sent: 04 March 2004 14:09
To: CF-Community
Subject: Surgery (Was RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE)
Our prayers are with you, when is the day?
-Patrick
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From: Ben Braver
Yes.
;-)
>Are you a sexy old fart, or an old fart that likes sex?
>
>/me runs away quickly.
>
>:-)
>
>-Kevin
>
>> (May be old fart, but am sexy old fart!!)
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Are you a sexy old fart, or an old fart that likes sex?
/me runs away quickly.
:-)
-Kevin
> (May be old fart, but am sexy old fart!!)
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>now look what he's doing :P
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> From: Harkins, Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 March 2004 14:09
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Surgery (Was RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE)
>
>
> Our prayers are with you, when
Thanks so much, Patrick - Mon. 3/29 for the hip,
replacing loose screws in head waiting for parts ;-)
Should be home from hospital by Thurs. or Fri.
-Ben
>Our prayers are with you, when is the day?
>-Patrick
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ben Braver
>
>"Who do I want to ignore today?"
>
Don,
How are things today?
-Patrick
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From: Chunshen Li
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You'll be fine. Just remember to check and make sure that there aren't
any parts left over. Except the ones that are *supposed* to be left
over, of course.
--benD
Ben Braver wrote:
> "Who do I want to ignore today?"
>
> The other voice in my head,
> the one which keeps making negative, fear
Larry said:
> It seems to me that those involved were getting
> far too much
> upset over something that was quite minor. Not blaming anyone here.
Well, I'm upset, really upset. I was really getting into this but I've
gotten no outside email since 6:52pm yesterday evening (damn viruses and
worms
I wouldn't pitty him. He followed up the pen1s enlargement spam emailand
now look what he's doing :P
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From: Harkins, Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 March 2004 14:09
To: CF-Community
Subject: Surgery (Was RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE)
O
hehe. No it's just my ptero-bull-dactylography!
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That's really ancient. So old in fact that its fossilized.
Larry
Ps aren't you referring to plasticine?
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"Who do I want to ignore today?"
The other voice in my head,
the one which keeps making negative, fearful comments
about my impending surgery .
-Ben
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I had difficulty sleeping because of that :P
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From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 March 2004 14:09
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
> Socrates drank the hemlock not Plato.
Glad someone pointed that out before I had
That's really ancient. So old in fact that its fossilized.
Larry
Ps aren't you referring to plasticine?
> -Original Message-
> From: Harkins, Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:03 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Macrome
> Socrates drank the hemlock not Plato.
Glad someone pointed that out before I had to.
-Kevin
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I always preferred Pleistocene to Plato as the latter has a tendency to dry
out.
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Socrates drank the hemlock not Plato.
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> Subject: Re: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
>
>
> mmm... you guys are confused. Must be that spliff. Plato
> drank the hemlock, he didn't give it to anyone.
>
>
> >And it seemed to work for him, although a lot of his philosopher
> >friends were rat
I hope at least you were pronouncing it correctly in your conversations
^_^ hee hee
-Gel
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From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:38 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: All Apologies (was: RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE)
wtf is a spleef?
It's a SPLIFF...
BLLLAAASphemer!!
-Gel
:-)
-Original Me
/me pulls up a cheer and passes round a crate of beer.
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From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 March 2004 20:27
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
/me grabs some of Gel's popcorn. it really was better than a lot o
You've defined the word, BITCH clearer than anyone else. So, you could
stop here now. Clear?
>Well...it might be punishment for anyone *receiving* the blood
>...
>And..he should be sure he uses proper surgical equipment if he's doing
>this in a production environment.
>Otherwise I suppose a
It made me laughed, so, thank you. I'll sure ask my father if he knows
anything about potato farming or any other type of farming for that matter
when I have a chance.
"
He returned to the house with the gun and then killed his father with the same crop his father spent his whole life teaching Li
mmm... you guys are confused. Must be that spliff. Plato drank the hemlock, he didn't give it to anyone.
>And it seemed to work for him, although a lot of his philosopher friends
>were rather hesitant to drink anything he offered.
>
>larry
>
>>
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self, or was 'Don' assigned him as a cruel joke?
>
>M
>
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>From: a cantrl. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 2:42 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
>
>... useless nonsense ...
>
&g
"Who do I want to ignore today?"
The other voice in my head,
the one which keeps making negative, fearful comments
about my impending surgery .
-Ben
>> From: Michael Dinowitz
>>
>> You could always just ask me to write a new patch for the HoF
>> system where mail from you will go to everyone
e kind of inferiority
>complex, or have we have just encountered a superior mind that cannot be
>comprehended? I am curious to hear what other people think.
>
>M
>
>-Original Message-----
>From: Chunshen (Don) Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2
wtf is a spleef?
It's a SPLIFF...
BLLLAAASphemer!!
-Gel
:-)
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Dude, pass the spleef over here.that's some good sh%t.
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>
>
> Isn't that what Plato used to say? I think he favored using
> the word 'killed' instead of 'suppressed'.
>
> M
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesda
Isn't that what Plato used to say? I think he favored using the word
'killed' instead of 'suppressed'.
M
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From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:01 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Macromedia is HORRIBL
Proves my point. Those who have passed a philosophy course are dangerous to
society and should be suppressed.
larry
> -Original Message-
> From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 3:50 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Macrome
3, 2004 2:42 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
... useless nonsense ...
All of this is of course done under the guise of developing web
applications for some silly New Media company in San Diego. This is why
his posts may seem baseless - he really doesn't want an answer
ROFLMAO... I swear this sounds like a Mad Lib...
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
The Children's Medical Center
One Children's Plaza
Dayton, OH 45404
937-641-4293
http://www.childrensdayton.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"There is no right price for the wrong product, even if it is inexpensive and
Wednesday, March 03, 2004 2:20 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: All Apologies (was: RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE)
>
>
>Matt,
>
>A detailed examination of the referenced thread leads me to conclude
>that you need decaff or Torazine or more likely both. Also, I am tol
>Yeah, but what if someone quotes something I said? For that matter, what
>if I start a thread, couldn't all responses be interpreted as some form
>of inadvertent communication? Sort of a feng shui thing?
>
>Li (Don) Chunshen raises a number of metaphysical and epistemological
>points with his mess
/me grabs some of Gel's popcorn. it really was better than a lot of the
movies that come out today.
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From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 1:18 P
Dude, pass the spleef over here.that's some good sh%t.
-Original Message-
From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 3:27 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: All Apologies (was: RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE)
dana -
First off, my name is Mark
weight of all things holy.
M
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From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 2:20 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: All Apologies (was: RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE)
Matt,
A detailed examination of the referenced thread leads me to conclude
e style
:)"
Bill Wheatley, do you want to chime in here?
M
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From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 3:09 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
I'm being a nit picker right now. Just stirring up the pot.
Um actua
*munches on popcorn*
ActuallyI found the whole thing quite entertaining.
^_^
*mischievous chuckle*
-Gel
"If my memory sucks I'll punish myself by drawing blood from my
arm!!11" - Chunsen Don Li, CF Community Forums 2004
-Original Message-
From: Lyons, Larry
It se
;-Original Message-----
>From: Chunshen (Don) Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:26 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
>
>
>You're just NUTS. Previously, you offered WRONG opinion on my CF6.0
>upgrade.
>N
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> From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 3:02 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
>
>
> yes, but Larry ... and correct me if I am wrong .. the whole
> ARGUMENT was started a
yes, but Larry ... and correct me if I am wrong .. the whole ARGUMENT
was started and snowballed because of a BASIC installer problem Don was
having.
It was working the WAY it should have, but because Don (correct me if I
am wrong) was possibly not aware that he could not, during a BASIC
install
> Or maybe the new HoF tag line...
> "Who do you want to ignore today?"
Clients! Wait... that's everyday
--benD
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> From: Michael Dinowitz
>
> You could always just ask me to write a new patch for the HoF
> system where mail from you will go to everyone but Don. This
> should solve the problem and be a new, fun feature. Choose
> who you want to ignore.
Wouldn't that be "Choose who you want to ignore you"
age-
> From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 2:08 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
>
>
> Hey! Pretty cool!
>
> But still, it's obviously not something that the installer
> does, which
> r
But...but...if anyone could choose who to ignore, no one would read my
posts!
BTW, does anyone else get the feeling we ran (Don) off?
--benD
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> You could always just ask me to write a new patch for the HoF system where
> mail from you will go to everyone but Don. This sh
You could always just ask me to write a new patch for the HoF system where
mail from you will go to everyone but Don. This should solve the problem and
be a new, fun feature. Choose who you want to ignore.
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> Just a polite reminder... quote and byline all response as from me from
now on... or your Windows computers will mysteriously stop working.
>
> - Matt Small
Okay.
- Matt Small
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Just a polite reminder... quote and byline all response as from me from now on... or your Windows computers will mysteriously stop working.
- Matt Small
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From: Ben Doom
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Macromedia is
This is somewhere between hilarious and really frickin' scary.
Congradulations.
--benD
Haggerty, Mike wrote:
> Yeah, but what if someone quotes something I said? For that matter, what
> if I start a thread, couldn't all responses be interpreted as some form
> of inadvertent communication? Sort
Yes, but that is a tweak.
for the layperson, during an install ... it's not an option (as far as I
recall from all my server installs ...)
So I believe it is from this experience that Ben is talking of.
Cheers,
Erika
--
From: Lyons, Larry
erse shall be revealed
through being in itself outwith complete in and around all things.
Li (Don) Chunshen Bless,
M
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From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 1:40 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
Umm...well..
t
Hey! Pretty cool!
But still, it's obviously not something that the installer does, which
reinfocrces my point.
--benD
Lyons, Larry wrote:
> Um Ben, there actually is a way to do such. Jeff Hauser and Charlie Arehart
> wrote an intereting article from last September's ColdFusion Developer's
>
Well...it might be punishment for anyone *receiving* the blood
...
And..he should be sure he uses proper surgical equipment if he's doing
this in a production environment.
Otherwise I suppose a butter knife and a glass would do fine.
umm..
*sneaks away again*
-Gel
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> Per Li's message, I cannot apologize directly for whatever it
> is I said that so deeply offended him. I take it all back,
> and apologize for sending word to Ray's mother (or whatever).
>
Thank you. My mother was very upset and now she is all better. ;)
-ray
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ay to do testing against all
three servers.
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 1:28 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
>
>
> I believe that if you tell the installer to run both MX a
What was that one dude's name who mentioned wanting to overthrow the govt.
and then he totally disappeared after that? lol. Who wants to bet that Chunsen
is that guy's reincarnation?
>> You're just NUTS. Previously, you offered WRONG opinion on my CF6.0
>upgrade.
>> Now you tried to insult me.
unshen (Don) Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:26 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
You're just NUTS. Previously, you offered WRONG opinion on my CF6.0
upgrade.
Now you tried to insult me.
DO ME A FAVOR. NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER EVER
COMMUNICATE
> From: Chunshen (Don) Li
>
> If my memory sucks I'll punish myself by drawing
> blood from my arm!!11
I've just re-read this...
In other words, you're saying that if you're wrong, then you'll donate
blood?
Erm, how exactly is that a punishment as millions of people donate blood
a year.
owsed.
> >
> >M
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:38 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
> >
> >
> >The only time it is
Read the doc crap.
:)
> I can speak for CF6.0 upgrade to 6.1 on Window OS (XP). The default
> for directory browsing is set to TRUE. Why the hell, in this day and
> this hour, would a company has no concern about security or does not
> seem to think in the interest of its customers?
>
> Bef
> You're just NUTS. Previously, you offered WRONG opinion on my CF6.0
upgrade.
> Now you tried to insult me.
>
> DO ME A FAVOR. NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER EVER
> COMMUNICATE WITH ME AGAIN IN ANY FORM FROM THIS POINT ON. If my memory
> sucks I'll punish myself by drawing blood from my arm!!11
Umm...well..
that's kind of difficult for him to do if you remain subscribed to an
open mailing list isn't it?
Although I'm sure you can create some neat rule so that any emails from
him could be blocked.
Well..as long as it doesn't have anything to do with IIS I
guess...errrmm.
*sneaks
> From: Chunshen (Don) Li
>
> You're just NUTS. Previously, you offered WRONG opinion on
> my CF6.0 upgrade. Now you tried to insult me.
>
> DO ME A FAVOR. NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER EVER
> COMMUNICATE WITH ME AGAIN IN ANY FORM FROM THIS POINT ON. If
> my memory
> sucks I'll punish myself by
>Anyone foolish enough to use CF's internal server for hosting a
> >production Web application deserves to have their directories browsed.
> >
> >M
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wed
ever considered decaf?
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From: "Chunshen (Don) Li" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
> You're just NUTS. Previously, you o
I remember that option, to use the internal web server or IIS or whatever. no problem there. maybe someone was just too happy
- Original Message -
From: Chunshen Li (Don)
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
Your
I believe that if you tell the installer to run both MX and CF5, you
can't install both on IIS. This, BTW, is an IIS limitation. But the
point is that if you want to run CF5 on IIS, you can't also run MX on IIS.
If you are running both CF5 and MX on a dev box, but not on your
production box,
t: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:38 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
>
>
>The only time it isn't controlled by IIS (or Apache) is when you use the
>internal web server, which is NOT recommended for production. This,
>imho, is
>a non-issue.
[Toda
IIS is installed in my box. Proof, my CF5.0 uses IIS.
>> From: Chunshen (Don) Li
>>
>> a) during CF installation or upgrade, the process NEED to let
>> the installer know, better, select what web server to use
>> (IIS, internal MM web server, Apache ...).
>
>It will only let you select a serve
> From: Chunshen (Don) Li
>
> a) during CF installation or upgrade, the process NEED to let
> the installer know, better, select what web server to use
> (IIS, internal MM web server, Apache ...).
It will only let you select a server if you have it installed on that
machine
If you didn't have
on, I 'might' use the built in server, but I would not allow external access to that workstation.
- Calvin
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From: Chunshen (Don) Li
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
Your statement ha
> Your statement has some truth to it, for which I appreciate.
> However, there are two issues here:
> a) during CF installation or upgrade, the process NEED to let
> the installer know, better, select what web server to use
> (IIS, internal MM web server, Apache ...).
I don't know - I just di
> a) during CF installation or upgrade, the process NEED to let the installer
> know, better, select what web server to use (IIS, internal MM web
> server, Apache ...).
It's been a while since I installed it, but I seem to remember it asking
very politely which server I wanted to install on.
>
Your statement has some truth to it, for which I appreciate. However, there are two issues here:
a) during CF installation or upgrade, the process NEED to let the installer
know, better, select what web server to use (IIS, internal MM web server, Apache ...).
b) a testing / development environment
unity
Subject: RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
The only time it isn't controlled by IIS (or Apache) is when you use the
internal web server, which is NOT recommended for production. This,
imho, is
a non-issue.
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Are we talking about document browsing on the internal, intended for development use only, CF server?
Thanks,
Calvin
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From: Adam Reynolds
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
Erm...isn't dire
The only time it isn't controlled by IIS (or Apache) is when you use the
internal web server, which is NOT recommended for production. This, imho, is
a non-issue.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:24 AM
Subject: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
> I can speak for CF6.0 upgrade to 6.1 on Window OS (XP). The default for
directory browsing is set to TRUE. Why the hell, in this day and this hour,
would a company has no concern about security or does not seem to thi
Erm...isn't directory browsing controlled by IIS? I didn't think MX messed
around with IIS in that way.
Adam
-Original Message-
From: Chunshen (Don) Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 March 2004 14:25
To: CF-Community
Subject: Macromedia is HORRIBLE
I can speak
I can speak for CF6.0 upgrade to 6.1 on Window OS (XP). The default for directory browsing is set to TRUE. Why the hell, in this day and this hour, would a company has no concern about security or does not seem to think in the interest of its customers?
Before upgrade, yes, my box was set to dis
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