Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-29 Thread sam morris
>> Such a stupid comment I should ignore it, but I wont. > >Good comeback Sam. A rapier wit, yours. A real stinger. Crackling! Well it was. To claim GOP would never choose a black race baiting. It's based on nothing but your imaginary belief that the GOP is racist. Powell and Rice prove you wron

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-29 Thread William Bowen
> If Powell ran against Bush eight years ago he would have easily won. But he didn't. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 sof

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-29 Thread William Bowen
> Such a stupid comment I should ignore it, but I wont. Good comeback Sam. A rapier wit, yours. A real stinger. Crackling! > Rasmussen has Powell beating McCain 54% to 26% in a one-on-one. > But Powell won't run. So don't blame the GOP blame Powell. Since you haven't got facts on your side you'r

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-29 Thread sam morris
If Powell ran against Bush eight years ago he would have easily won. As for the scapegoat, the weapons he mentioned were found buried in the dessert so I'm not sure what you mean. As for being replaced by Rice, payback was delivered through Armitage. >I've always gotten the impression that Pow

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-29 Thread Loathe
It has more to do with his wife. Scott Stewart wrote: > I've always gotten the impression that Powell won't run because of what > was done to him by Bush and the GOP. > You can't expect a man who did what his President asked of him and then > was made a scapegoat for it, to be willing to run for

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-29 Thread Scott Stewart
I've always gotten the impression that Powell won't run because of what was done to him by Bush and the GOP. You can't expect a man who did what his President asked of him and then was made a scapegoat for it, to be willing to run for the same office that screwed him. I've said it before if Po

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-29 Thread sam morris
Such a stupid comment I should ignore it, but I wont. Rasmussen has Powell beating McCain 54% to 26% in a one-on-one. But Powell won't run. So don't blame the GOP blame Powell. Where's your woman vice President? >> Probably not but you know it'll be mostly white folk on camera > >Hey Sam, I sa

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-29 Thread William Bowen
> Probably not but you know it'll be mostly white folk on camera Hey Sam, I saw something tonight at the Democratic Convention that will never happen at a GOP Convention... A black man accepting his party's nomination as a candidate for President. ~~~

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > as the Clinton economy, when in fact it would be more accurate to > refer to it as the Newt Gingrich economy. > Aw, man. I was with you 100% until here. It was the Clinton-Gingrich economy. It was the best of both that created the magic. There's no doubt that the Clinton year

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Robert Munn
It's a relative measure, meaning that tax receipts would have been higher had taxes not been raised in 1993 because GDP would have grown faster and the really rich- the people that actually pay most federal income taxes- would have done less to shield their income from taxation. The economy only r

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Sam
It's your menutia. You brought up another pack of lies and when confronted you jump topics. I remember the .com bubble very well. I'm much better off now thank you. If you want to rehash the imaginary surplus (money borrowed from SS against future growth) we can discuss it again and again but I k

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Sam
Open a window and let the smoke clear. Now are you really going to say the Chairman of the Senate banking commity had no effect on the crisis but the President twisted Greenspans arm and forced him to lower rates? Is the world that foggy to you? On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:03 PM, denstar <[EMAIL

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread denstar
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > It's a great recipe for the future President though: > > * If Bush was talking about it, keep quiet about it. > * If Bush was doing it, stop. > * If Bush wasn't doing it, start. > > So he will leave that as good legacy. There you go! The "

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Actually they were the same as his Clinton visits. > No debate is necessary because this is about results. And under Clinton, Suplus; under Bush Deficit. Any American that's not a moron would take the Clinton economy over the Bush economy any day. So you see Sam? We don't have t

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread denstar
Give it a rest, Gruss! THERE IS NO CONNECTION. Everything bad is coincidence, and the good stuff was done on purpose, at the right time. It's quite a simple formula, really, and quite popular. Accountability only factors in when you're a low head on the totem pole (also part of the formula).

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread sam morris
Actually they were the same as his Clinton visits. Greenspan wrote a book attacking Bush yet he said this: He praises President Bush for letting the Fed stay independent of political pressure, saying he was scrupulous in not trying to interfere with monetary policy — which he contrasts sharpl

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Always blame Bush. I know, it stretches credibility to think anyone could be that massive of a fuck-up. If you asked Bush to make you pop-tarts he'd end up burning your house to the ground. How could that even happen? But that's his genius: fuck ups you and I can't conceive of ar

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Always blame Bush. > Let's look at the facts and who's involved with the Countrywide Scandal? Hmmm > it's Chris Dodd and an ex Obama Advisor James A. Johnson. > There are only 2 throttles and Bush controlled one for the last 8 years and Greenspan another for 5 of the last 8 years.

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread William Bowen
Working within a climate created, fostered and perpetuated by the Bush Administration. > Always blame Bush. > Let's look at the facts and who's involved with the Countrywide Scandal? Hmmm > it's Chris Dodd and an ex Obama Advisor James A. Johnson. > -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread sam morris
Always blame Bush. Let's look at the facts and who's involved with the Countrywide Scandal? Hmmm it's Chris Dodd and an ex Obama Advisor James A. Johnson. THE REAL SCANDAL HOW FEDS INVITED THE MORTGAGE MESS http://www.nypost.com/seven/02052008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_real_scandal_243911.h

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > Clinton raised taxes...the GDP grew, tax revenues grew, the economy soared, > the budget balanced. > > How do you explain that? > There are 2 throttles to the economy: fiscal policy and monetary policy. The President controls fiscal policy and Federal Reserve controls monetary p

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Tony
and thats whats cool about him... he is a freakin rockstar. california voted in terminator... the nation is voting in the great brown hope... who cares if the political seasons is a popularity contest as well? i dont. i simply cannot envision an america that i would like if john mccain is brought

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread sam morris
Actually I think it's kind of funny. Obama is trying to make McCain look like an elitist and McCain is painting Obama as a pop star. McCain didn't have a house for five years while serving his country and Obama has Brittany Spears set designer creating his temple set for the biggest political po

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Maureen
Oh I agree totally. The entire nonsense about how many houses John McCain had was just ridiculous. And it became even more ridiculous when McCain used his POW sound bite to defend himself regarding his inability to remember how many houses he owned. He should have immediately pointed out how tri

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Bruce Sorge
Yeah, like how many houses do you own. Sorry, couldn't resist. Maureen wrote: > Well, which is it, a Greek Temple or Roman Temple? The reporter > doesn't seem to know, since he refers to it as both, which is not > suprising considering how stupid the whole article is. > > The economy is tankin

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Maureen
Certainly helped the cigar industry. On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:32 PM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How do you explain that? > > BJs on a regular basis, like clockwork. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the mos

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread sam morris
> > These people have to volunteer for his campaign to go so we know > they're true worshipers. > > I bet the Obama campaign didn't make anyone sign loyalty oaths for > admission to the event. Probably not but you know it'll be mostly white folk on camera > No, there is no maximum amount of tim

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread William Bowen
> How do you explain that? BJs on a regular basis, like clockwork. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > damn. > > i ownt care i love my iphone and it loves me :) > I just entered mine in a contest Case-Mate is running. I actually had to put it back in the case to take the shot. lol It's called "Another Day At The Office" http://bl

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread William Bowen
> These people have to volunteer for his campaign to go so we know they're true > worshipers. Think there'll be a lot of republicans wanting to get into the speech? I bet the Obama campaign didn't make anyone sign loyalty oaths for admission to the event. > I do wonder if it's a way around the c

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread G Money
Clinton raised taxes...the GDP grew, tax revenues grew, the economy soared, the budget balanced. How do you explain that? These are honest questions, by the way...i'm an economic idiot. On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:50 AM, G

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Robert Munn
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:50 AM, G wrote: > When tax rates go up, GOVERNMENT revenue increases That is demonstrably false: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121124460502305693.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries Mr. Hauser uncovered the means to answer these questions definitively. On this page i

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No he wouldn't pay for his spending, and that's the core problem. When > tax rates go up, revenues don't follow. People see diminishing returns > from increased salaries and they look for ways to game the system. > This kind

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Robert Munn
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:06 AM, G wrote: > And independents think you BOTH are wrong. If we leave tomorrow, it's not a > defeat. If we stay for another 5 years and Iraq reaches some made up set of > benchmarksthat's not a victory. Forget about benchmarks. You want to know what a victory fo

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Tony
damn. i ownt care i love my iphone and it loves me :) -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:38 PM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> > > > LOL! > > -- > will >

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats > on the issue. Republicans believe that winning the war, helping Iraq > be a free country, is an important goal that we need to see through to > completi

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Robert Munn
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:59 AM, G Money wrote: > > Let's quit talking about "winning or losing the war". That's a figment of > history. This is the fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats on the issue. Republicans believe that winning the war, helping Iraq be a free country, is

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As G suggested, this is yet another self-inflicted wound by Democrats. > If you don't want your candidate mocked for standing, Caesar-like, on > the floor of the Coliseum, don't have him stand on the stage at > Invesco Fiel

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Robert Munn
As G suggested, this is yet another self-inflicted wound by Democrats. If you don't want your candidate mocked for standing, Caesar-like, on the floor of the Coliseum, don't have him stand on the stage at Invesco Field. It's a bad idea and plays exactly into the same line of commentary that burned

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread sam morris
These people have to volunteer for his campaign to go so we know they're true worshipers. I do wonder if it's a way around the campaign finance laws. You know if you hit your max does working for a ticket count as a contribution? I know forced volunteering doesn't pay. I kid :) But your smartas

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread William Bowen
> > >> Sent from my iPhone >> > LOL! -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic rele

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sent from my iPhone > lol ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doublecli

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread William Bowen
> It might as well be > the Temple of Delphi, with Barack Obama the supplicant for the > Oracle's wisdom So... when Barack Obama is president, will we continue to hear useless commentary like this from the right? Perhaps that by appearing at the Capital building steps we can be told by the right

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Billy Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > This is just so much trivial nonsense. > Politics is almost ENTIRELY about trivial nonsense. How you look, what you say, how you say it, how people relate to you, how they FEEL about you.most people vote on a few issues,

RE: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Billy Cox
Yeah, and I've heard that the Statue of Liberty is actually based on a French design. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:53 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple? Well, which is i

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread G Money
We'll just have to wait and see..obviously the republicans will try to play it against him. Obama's message lately has been one of an "every man", trying to portray him as not that different from you and me. If they stand him up on a stage in front of pillars like he's some sort of modern day

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Robert Munn
The economy isn't tanking, it rebounded in Q2: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080828/economy.html The irony in the stage setting, of course, is the complete lack of self-awareness it shows among the DNC leadership. It might as well be the Temple of Delphi, with Barack Obama the supplicant for the Oracle

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread William Bowen
There's a line in the article that says "Fireworks and confetti will follow Obama's speech." Anyone got the over/under on how long it takes the right-wing yappers to claim that the multitude was only there because of the fireworks afterward? ;-) Oh and one other thing, to sort of echo one of the

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Maureen
Well, which is it, a Greek Temple or Roman Temple? The reporter doesn't seem to know, since he refers to it as both, which is not suprising considering how stupid the whole article is. The economy is tanking, people are dying in wars. We need an important news story regarding the presidential ca

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Tony Weeg
why is this out of touch? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2008, at 11:32 AM, "G Money" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nothing that epic...just another case of the Democratic Party > phucking up a > sure thing. > > I swear, the Democratic Party in this country is the most bumbling, > out of > to

Re: Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread G Money
Nothing that epic...just another case of the Democratic Party phucking up a sure thing. I swear, the Democratic Party in this country is the most bumbling, out of touch, inept group of imbeciles I've seen sincesince.my last Royals game! On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAI

Obama's stage at Invesco - Greek temple?

2008-08-28 Thread Robert Munn
They say it is meant to invoke the White House but looks more like a Greek temple. Do I feel an Aeschylus moment coming on, or is it an Aristophanes moment? Hmm. Maybe it's a Spinal Tap moment. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/08/28/2008-08-28_barack_obamas_invesco_stage_looks_like_g.