i do, mikey t gets some.
another homey who does a lot of GREAT flex work, works for cynergy does some.
i need the money :)
the effects of divorce, are mounting... but im finally clearing
them off.
countrywide... see that shit on tv... yup thats me.
:) sux.
On Jan 24, 2008 8:33 PM, Erika L. W
That's ok, it was a good idea ... :D
On 1/24/08, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Damn, that was supposed to be private. Stupid distractions! :)
>
> On Jan 24, 2008 6:54 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > You should start subbing out work to us "buds". I charge $50 a
Damn, that was supposed to be private. Stupid distractions! :)
On Jan 24, 2008 6:54 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You should start subbing out work to us "buds". I charge $50 an hour
> normally, you can pocket the rest! :)
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2008 3:08 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED
You should start subbing out work to us "buds". I charge $50 an hour
normally, you can pocket the rest! :)
On Jan 24, 2008 3:08 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i guess then i am the ambassador for REAL WAGES in this area
> for webwork.
>
> as im the highest priced in the area... and still
i guess then i am the ambassador for REAL WAGES in this area
for webwork.
as im the highest priced in the area... and still am inundated
and have room for a couple competitors... and i welcome them...
because im usually the one they call AFTER they get SHINOLA
from the "other guys"
:) tw
On Jan
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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:19 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Question for the independent contractors out there.
and you have to remember, ive been doign this in my home
town for 13 years now, and have a nice client base, and LOADS
of referrals... i USED to charge $25/hour for computer
Oh so true ... my god I can't imagine trying to make it somewhere like
California or the East coast
I gripe about living in Kansas sometimes (because of the culture) but I sure do
love the economic benefits.
>Of course in our section of the the country (assuming you are still in KC) a
>two-bedr
t; >
> > > 100 -125 is pretty normal around Va/MD
> > >
> > > -Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:09 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subje
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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Question for the independent contractors out there.
Really?? Must only be in the city centers, because I happen to know there's
a part of Maryland where a business owner I know can barely get $5 an hour
to
$5/hr? Now that's just plain nuts. Now, if I were to move to a very
small town (in Rural Georgia for example) and attempt to build
"websites" for all the local businesses in the area, I would expect
they'd wanna pay $5/hr, but that's just because I'd be building
"websites" for Jed's Boiled Pe
There are a LOT of people out there who think you can hire Joe Schmoe
for $5/hour to build you a web site, and you really do get what you
pay for.
They key is to finding customers that need applications built to serve
their business. that's where you can get more than the cheap stuff.
The fact i
$5?
for real.
hahahah, i would rather go suck an egg than touch my keyboard for that.
tw
On Jan 24, 2008 9:50 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Really?? Must only be in the city centers, because I happen to know there's
> a part of Maryland where a business owner I know can barel
d Va/MD
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:09 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Question for the independent contractors out there.
> >
> > My god weegs.. I
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> > > Really?
> > >
> > > 100 -125 is pretty normal around Va/MD
> > >
> > > -Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23,
Really?? Must only be in the city centers, because I happen to know there's
a part of Maryland where a business owner I know can barely get $5 an hour
to do any web work projects. Is he simply not marketing correctly or letting
these people browbeat him into submission and treating him like an off-
unity
Subject: Re: Question for the independent contractors out there.
good lord, i WISH i could charge $125 ... in my area of the US, that's not
feasible
the only problem is -- i feel like i SHOULD be able to charge that much
then i quote projects at my usual rate and watch my potential clients&
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> Subject: RE: Question for the independent contractors out there.
>
> My god weegs.. I charge half that and watch people stutter...
>
> --
> Scott Stewart
> ColdFusion Developer
>
> SSTWebworks
> 4405 Oakshyre Way
> Raleigh, NC. 27616
> (91
Really?
100 -125 is pretty normal around Va/MD
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:09 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Question for the independent contractors out there.
My god weegs.. I charge half that and watch people
I figure out what the project will cost me to do, triple that, then
get 1/3 down. That way, my costs are covered before I write the
first line of code, and the rest is gravy. I usually bill at 200 an
hour, but I can get a lot done in an hour, and I have a very broad
skill set.
On Jan 23, 2008 1
I was gonna say ...
On 1/23/08, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> My god weegs.. I charge half that and watch people stutter...
>
>
~|
Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to
dat
well, see ... there's "worth it" and then there's "what the market will pay"
I'd have to be a full-blown marketing agency with many employees in multiple
roles going after the Sprint/Applebee's/H&R Block accounts to command that much
in good old Kansas ...
that's just not my client base, solid
make yourself worth it.
build a solid base of clients
referrals come soon!
tw
On Jan 23, 2008 4:20 PM, Shawna Hampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> good lord, i WISH i could charge $125 ... in my area of the US, that's not
> feasible
>
> the only problem is -- i feel like i SHOULD be able to char
They are all overseas workers that charge that. $15 in moldova is a
HELLUVA lot of money. I know, our church has an orphanage there.
J.J.
On 1/23/08, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/23/08, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Seems like oDesk developers don't charge enough
: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:06 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Question for the independent contractors out there.
On 1/23/08, Shawna Hampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I moonlighted for about 6 months before going full-time f
:57 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Question for the independent contractors out there.
what are y'alls rates?
im currently at $125/hour for some projects and $75 for friends projects.
tw
On 1/23/08, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/23/08, Shawna Hampton <[EMAIL
I use QBO for my books and FreshBooks.com for all my invoicing... it
is awesome. I have about 300 clients in it and it works like a charm.
J.J.
On 1/23/08, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, on a tangent. Freshbooks.com is an awesome killer invoicing system that
> lets you have 3 fr
good lord, i WISH i could charge $125 ... in my area of the US, that's not
feasible
the only problem is -- i feel like i SHOULD be able to charge that much
then i quote projects at my usual rate and watch my potential clients' eyes
fall out of their head ... thought i was going to have to do CP
what are y'alls rates?
im currently at $125/hour for some projects and $75 for friends projects.
tw
On 1/23/08, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/23/08, Shawna Hampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I moonlighted for about 6 months before going full-time freelance.
> >
> > Almo
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:48 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Question for the independent contractors out there.
I have a pretty good full time job that I have only been in for ~1/2
year and I am not really looking for anything new. I'm open any six
figure, golden opportunity tha
I like the Sprint/Nextel method of billing:
100% up front, 100% when most of the developers get reorganized into
projects more closely aligned with the company's core mission, 100% when a
new director 'reimagines' the entire project, 100% to kill the project when
everyone who knew or cared about t
Oh, on a tangent. Freshbooks.com is an awesome killer invoicing system that
lets you have 3 free clients. Check it out.
Personally I use Quickbooks online, but I keep eyeing up Freshbooks for the
simplicity.
~|
Adobe® ColdFusion®
50% upfront without a question, even good friends.
50% when scope of work is signed off on and client is happy.
tw
On Jan 23, 2008 12:20 PM, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/23/08, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > As with most people, I could use a little extra each month
On 1/23/08, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Seems like oDesk developers don't charge enough. Were you able to make some
> solid money on there?
Seriously... like 70% of the billed hours have been between $5 and
$15/hour, what's up with that?
--
Rick Root
New Brian Vander Ark Album,
: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:48 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Question for the independent contractors out there.
I have a pretty good full time job that I have only been in for ~1/2
year and I am not really looking for anything new. I'm open any six
figure, golden opportunity that cares to
s to not have a signed
contract in hand before starting a project. Unless you like being sued,
don't start a project without a contract.
-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:48 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Question
Rick Root wrote:
> I have trouble, personally, balancing my desire for extra money with
> my dislike of doing any work after 5pm :)
That is one part of my current full time job that allows me to consider
taking small side jobs. I have an 'alternate' work schedule where I get
off at 3:30 Tuesday
On 1/23/08, Shawna Hampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I moonlighted for about 6 months before going full-time freelance.
>
> Almost all of my moonlight work I found through oDesk (www.odesk.com),
> which
> meant I got paid hourly through oDesk's system (buyer paid oDesk each
> month,
> oDesk pa
I almost spit tea all over my laptop again! You better freaking run before I
start slapping you upside the head with the muffin pan ... why I oughtta ...
first chance I can get ... I'm gonna fly down there and and and ... well ...
print this thread out and make you eat it!
>:|
On 1/23/08, Vivec
It is common practice to ask for 50% up front for a project on the
estimated hours.
If it is going to be a ongoing thing I would say get a retainer... I
mean lawyers do it why can't we?!
$2k up front and when that is up they have to replenish it for you to
do more work.
J.J.
On 1/23/08, Ian
elance.com, rentacoder.com ... any company that uses escrow or makes
people pay up front.
However, and Ive only ever looked for contractors, never looked for jobs,
what I see is it might be hard to find a decent job that pays decently.
YMMV :)
But, bottom line, always collect money up front.
Go
% and then decides
not to do the project, you keep that deposit as a kill fee.
-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:48 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Question for the independent contractors out there.
I have a pretty good full ti
:48 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Question for the independent contractors out there.
I have a pretty good full time job that I have only been in for ~1/2
year and I am not really looking for anything new. I'm open any six
figure, golden opportunity that cares to come knocking, but otherwise
On 1/23/08, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As with most people, I could use a little extra each month and I have
> been getting some lukewarm feelers for some after hours, moonlighting
> contract work. I have a question for those of you who do this kind of
> thing day in and day out.
50% upfront.
A further 25% somewhere upon approval of some part of the design/code.
Final 25% upon the site going live.
Have a clause that covers you for delays on the part of the client.
For example , they can't hold off on approving or deliberating changes
for months while your last 50% or 25% l
I have a pretty good full time job that I have only been in for ~1/2
year and I am not really looking for anything new. I'm open any six
figure, golden opportunity that cares to come knocking, but otherwise I
am happy where I am at.
As with most people, I could use a little extra each month an
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