Bible belt. Need I say more. I worked at the community college and
really felt like I was on the front lines of the war against
ignorance.
Dana
On 7/29/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ahh... "a new source of child porn" right? Yeah, my ex and I lived in
> Jacksonville in 99/2K .
Ahh... "a new source of child porn" right? Yeah, my ex and I lived in
Jacksonville in 99/2K ... not a liberal or terribly well-informed
town... the UU church there is awesome tho...
> They investigated don't you know that the internet is
> the devil's
> work? That was Jacksonville Florida. Um
"It" being single mothers... took me a minute...
> Ahem. I think it *can* be a good situation, but the
> requirements for
> this are such that it doesn't happen much. Obviously, the
> more
> caregivers, the more care a child gets.
> Dana
> On 7/29/05, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
Ahem. I think it *can* be a good situation, but the requirements for
this are such that it doesn't happen much. Obviously, the more
caregivers, the more care a child gets.
Dana
On 7/29/05, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wasn't trying to say that a single mother is a _good_ situat
already answered, I think. They did close the case once they came out.
But merely being investigated is somewhat stressful. Quick, do you
have a clean pillow-case? Milk in the fridge?
Dana
On 7/29/05, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> once for owning a computer...
>
> Dana
>
> That
They investigated don't you know that the internet is the devil's
work? That was Jacksonville Florida. U around 1997.
Dana
On 7/28/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > let's not forget being reported to child
> > protective service half a dozen times...
> > once for owning a
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:14 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: [QUARRANTINE]Re: bi-anxiety
>>
>> I had the "pleasure" of seeing him live
>> last year
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:14 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [QUARRANTINE]Re: bi-anxiety
>
> I had the "pleasure" of seeing him live last year here in Boston
> protesting t
I had the "pleasure" of seeing him live last year here in Boston
protesting the evil gay people.
What a twit.
On 7/29/05, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Saw a Phelps supporter throw an 11 year old child in front of a car at
> a clinic once.
~~~
Saw a Phelps supporter throw an 11 year old child in front of a car at
a clinic once.
The car stopped. The kid looked at what I can only assume was his
parent and then lay down on the driveway in front of the car.
These people are real pieces o'work...
Cripes.
> > That would be the Rev. Fred Ph
> That would be the Rev. Fred Phelpswhom I detest to
> say, is a fellow Kansan.
Yep, that's the one...
Somehow I didn't expect "Kansan" ... I'd have thought Kansasite or
maybe Kansite.
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> Sorry I snapped... Yeah, it happens... like that anti-gay preacher in
> the midwest... don't remember his name offhand, the "god hates fags"
> guy... but I remember reading an article about him that said his
> congregation mostly consisted of his own family... and of course, they
> all contribute
> That wasn't the community I was thinking of
> - there's TONS of coops in Madison. In fact,
> there's one right across the street from
> my office. But, I wouldn't say that they're
> necessarily intentional communities, by my
> understanding of them. The coops tend to be
> a group of folks that li
> Stop trying to argue against a specific example
> with a generality. (Or not.)
> I just thought it was an interesting story that
> happened to come about during this thread about
> nuclear families vs communal groups.
> Didn't mean to imply that you generality was
> wrong, just that here was an
That wasn't the community I was thinking of - there's TONS of coops in
Madison. In fact, there's one right across the street from my office.
But, I wouldn't say that they're necessarily intentional communities,
by my understanding of them. The coops tend to be a group of folks
that live in the same
Stop trying to argue against a specific example with a generality. (Or not.)
I just thought it was an interesting story that happened to come about
during this thread about nuclear families vs communal groups.
Didn't mean to imply that you generality was wrong, just that here was
an example of no
> Unless you watched Primetime last night, which
> highlighted a community in Colorado (Colorado
> Springs?) that embraces multiple marriages to
> underage girls. It also highlighted a family
> (of four wives and 56 kids) where the father
> was a (known) child molester.
> The behavior is not only
Unless you watched Primetime last night, which highlighted a community
in Colorado (Colorado Springs?) that embraces multiple marriages to
underage girls. It also highlighted a family (of four wives and 56
kids) where the father was a (known) child molester.
The behavior is not only tolerated, but
once for owning a computer...
Dana
That sounds like it could be an interesting story... What was dangerous about
owning a computer that had enough credit to require CPS' attention?
--
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
"C code. C code
> I wasn't trying to say that a single mother is a
> _good_ situation - just that family dynamics are
> complicated, and that in larger families
> things can be even more complicated.
Granted... But speaking in generalities, I suspect that it's easier
for an abuse cycle to exist, continue and grow
I wasn't trying to say that a single mother is a _good_ situation -
just that family dynamics are complicated, and that in larger families
things can be even more complicated.
My mom used to work for child protective services. The court's
party-line was that removing kids from homes should be a la
Yep - that's pretty much how our neighborhood functioned, too. Even if
my parents were gone for the weekend, I knew damn well that I couldn't
get away with anything, because all the neighbors would be watching.
In our neighborhood of toddlers, the big thing is using the neighbor's
potty. It's grea
> let's not forget being reported to child
> protective service half a dozen times...
> once for owning a computer...
Someone reported you to CPS for owning a computer? ... and CPS took it
seriously?
s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080
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er... are not receiving an education. Gotta go.
Dana
On 7/28/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am going into a test but let's start with the idea that all
> grandparents are sure their grandchildren are to receiving an
> education, and go on from there... let's not forget being reported to
I am going into a test but let's start with the idea that all
grandparents are sure their grandchildren are to receiving an
education, and go on from there... let's not forget being reported to
child protective service half a dozen times... once for owning a
computer...
Dana
On 7/28/05, S. Isaac
> Sometimes it really sucks that this list has the public
> web archives
> and is search engine indexed and all that.
Yeah, like whenever I open my big mouth. :)
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> You need cheap land and a way to make a living there.
> But you're wrong if you think homeschooling is an
> easy-to-make and widely accepted choice. If I had a
> nickel for every time I've heard about Andea Yates
> or the alleged socialization issue, well, I might
> not be rich, but I'd definite
> My wife and I are essentially doing hospice work
> for her grandmother at this point. Her aunt is
> morbidly obese, and we have to do pretty much
> everything for her. My wife works nights and
> I work days so that one of us can almost always
> be here for the boys, especially with Finn's
> pro
> On 7/28/05, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> My wife's Aunt and Grandmother both live with
>> us, and we have our two little boys. While
>> there are times that it is nice, I personally
>> would have to say that it makes things much
>> more chaotic and difficult to manage.
>>
>> I mean if it
> OK, I am humbled. You're right. This is a
> friend of mine, and I am probably sounding
> pretty unsympathetic. Isaac, please be in
> touch if I can help.
No you don't sound unsympathetic... if anything you sound
unsurprisingly under-educated on the subject... that's not an insult
at all, I'm ju
>> Hell isn't other people... Hell is growing
>> up with someone who believed it.
>>
>> Sorry... I'll stop now...
> Shit man,
It's a combination casette player and colostomy bag!
I got a lot o' good ideas! Touble is most of 'em suck.
> Don't stop. I know what it means to get
> it out, and I re
yes, there are definitely times that I bite my tongue because there
are things I dont want to see show up on GOogle.
Dana
On 7/28/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sometimes it really sucks that this list has the public web archives
> and is search engine indexed and all that.
>
> On
Sometimes it really sucks that this list has the public web archives
and is search engine indexed and all that.
On 7/28/05, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That wasn't my intention at all, and wasn't supposed to go to the list.
>
> Sorry,
>
> Tim
rsday, July 28, 2005 3:37 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [QUARRANTINE]Re: bi-anxiety
>
>
> yeah but Isaac, children are stuck with the parents they are born to.
> Sometimes better is all there is.
>
> But maybe I missed something. What are you advocating exactly?
> S
You need cheap land and a way to make a living there.
But you're wrong if you think homeschooling is an easy-to-make and
widely accepted choice. If I had a nickel for every time I've heard
about Andea Yates or the alleged socialization issue, well, I might
not be rich, but I'd definitely have mor
No worries on this end... granted... now your phone number is
googleable... :-/
> That wasn't my intention at all, and wasn't supposed to go
> to the list.
> Sorry,
> Tim
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real phone number, no never :)
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:56 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [QUARRANTINE]Re: bi-anxiety
>
>
> Good think you didn't i
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> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:49 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: [QUARRANTINE]Re: bi-anxiety
> >
> >
> > OK, I am humbled. You're right. This is a friend of mine, and I am
> > probably sounding pretty unsympathetic. Is
rsday, July 28, 2005 5:53 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [QUARRANTINE]Re: bi-anxiety
>
>
> yeah, but look at it this way, you've never had to figure out how to
> buy a stamp while carry a sleeping six year old plus a sleeping four
> year old.
>
> Maybe it
Good think you didn't include your REAL phone number in that reply to
the list, huh?
On 7/28/05, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> doh,
>
> that umm..
>
> nm
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> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 3:37 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: [QUARRANTINE]Re: bi-anxiety
> >
> >
> > yeah but Isaac, children are stuck with the parents they are born to.
> > Sometimes better is all there is.
> >
That wasn't my intention at all, and wasn't supposed to go to the list.
Sorry,
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:49 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [QUARRANTINE]Re: bi-anxiety
>
>
&
doh,
that umm..
nm
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:43 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: [QUARRANTINE]Re: bi-anxiety
>
>
> > Hell isn't other people... Hell is growing up
OK, I am humbled. You're right. This is a friend of mine, and I am
probably sounding pretty unsympathetic. Isaac, please be in touch if I
can help.
Dana
On 7/28/05, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hell isn't other people... Hell is growing up with someone who
> > believed it.
> >
> > Sor
> Hell isn't other people... Hell is growing up with someone who
> believed it.
>
> Sorry... I'll stop now...
Shit man,
Don't stop. I know what it means to get it out, and I really know where
you're coming from.
I don't want to say too much in return, just be here to listen this time.
Like I s
> hehe you're right about the shrinking of the
> average bedroom. And about the limits on the
> number of people living in a dwelling. One
> of my favorite rants is about the law they
> passed in Montgomry County mandating
> three-bedroom apartments for every family.
> This was for our own good, yo
hehe you're right about the shrinking of the average bedroom. And
about the limits on the number of people living in a dwelling. One of
my favorite rants is about the law they passed in Montgomry County
mandating three-bedroom apartments for every family. This was for our
own good, you understand.
Sure, as an _adult_ I think it is great (unless I get stuck with kid
duty for all the neighbors, then it gets a little much.)
As a kid you ended up with 30 parents, and were always under someone's
eye/thumb. (Of course, you also got 30 or so grandparents, which
balanced out nicely. All the grandpa
> Just a typical Connecticut neighborhood.
Wish I'd grown up in connecticut.
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>> Most people when you say "intentional communitie" or even "commune"
ARGH! I do actually know how to spell "community"... I was in the
process of changing "communities" to "community" and apparently
accidentally hit the hotkey for "send".
s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080
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> children being raised by a community of adults.
> I believe that the kibbutz is an example of
> this. I am not aware of any particular
> demonization of the form in the US, but I
> haven't gone much beyond a room-mate or two.
There are a few exceptions, hence the "intentional communities
movemen
hmm. I find the idea rather appealing, personally.
Dana
On 7/28/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Holy cow. I WISH I had less of an extended "family" growing up.
>
> Any of the neighbors had spanking privaliges for all the other kids.
> As did any of my parents friends.
> We never,
Holy cow. I WISH I had less of an extended "family" growing up.
Any of the neighbors had spanking privaliges for all the other kids.
As did any of my parents friends.
We never, ever locked out doors.
You could go into anyone's house and get a drink or a snack if you
were playing in that area and n
children being raised by a community of adults. I believe that the
kibbutz is an example of this. I am not aware of any particular
demonization of the form in the US, but I haven't gone much beyond a
room-mate or two.
Dana
On 7/28/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > yeah but Isaac,
> yeah but Isaac, children are stuck with the
> parents they are born to. Sometimes better
> is all there is.
> But maybe I missed something. What are
> you advocating exactly? Something like
> the kibbutz model?
By kibbutz do you mean this?
http://www.kibbutzprogramcenter.org/
No... well... no
yeah but Isaac, children are stuck with the parents they are born to.
Sometimes better is all there is.
But maybe I missed something. What are you advocating exactly?
Something like the kibbutz model?
Dana
On 7/28/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, if someone was going arou
> Well, if someone was going around cleaning up your
> father's landfill instead of say, kicking his ass
> out of the house, said someone would be just another
> member of a rather dysfunctional family, playing
> the typical role of caretaker.
> No offense intended - but I'm just trying to point
>
Well, if someone was going around cleaning up your father's landfill
instead of say, kicking his ass out of the house, said someone would
be just another member of a rather dysfunctional family, playing the
typical role of caretaker.
No offense intended - but I'm just trying to point out that mayb
> Hm, I'm not sure the that monogamy = disneyism.
> I mean, I'm monogamous, but I have lots of
> friends, each of whom fulfill a different role
> for me. The only way in which I'm monogamous
> is that only one tab A gets inserted into slot
> B, so to speak. I'd agree that becoming insular
> as a nu
Hm, I'm not sure the that monogamy = disneyism. I mean, I'm
monogamous, but I have lots of friends, each of whom fulfill a
different role for me. The only way in which I'm monogamous is that
only one tab A gets inserted into slot B, so to speak. I'd agree that
becoming insular as a nuclear family i
>> identify as bisexual), but I'm not going to tell
>> them that it will be easy or that they will ever
>> find that one person who fulfills them completely
>> (which I think is a Disneyism anyway).
>>
>> I think monogamy might work a lot better in a
>> culture in which families / communities were
Isn't that the whole thrust of this thread?
On 7/28/05, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The best relationship I ever had included her going out with the
> girls regularly, and me geeking out with the boys. :-)
~|
Find out h
> identify as bisexual), but I'm not going to tell them that it will be
> easy or that they will ever find that one person who fulfills them
> completely (which I think is a Disneyism anyway).
>
> I think monogamy might work a lot better in a culture in which
> families / communities were more inv
You should read this article, it's a riot!
http://www.nerve.com/regulars/lifeswork/bonobo/
Okay, I think primates (with the exception of humans) are ugly as sin,
but we should have more bonobo politicians! :) We can have orgies
instead of filibusters. Put congress on pay-per-view to replace the
I
Food fetish? :)
> OMG
> /me falls over in a faint from the inuendos
> ##| -Original Message-
> ##| From: Marlon Moyer
> ##|
> ##| Yeah, bad analogy because I love to eat
> ##| icing straight from the bowl.
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/me falls over in a faint from the inuendos
##| -Original Message-
##| From: Marlon Moyer
##|
##| Yeah, bad analogy because I love to eat icing straight from
##| the bowl.
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Yeah, bad analogy because I love to eat icing straight from the bowl.
On 7/28/05, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I dated a bisexual woman for a while. She didn't (that I remember) tell
> me who she preferred, but based on the relationships I know about
> (preceeding and following me) I'm
I dated a bisexual woman for a while. She didn't (that I remember) tell
me who she preferred, but based on the relationships I know about
(preceeding and following me) I'm pretty sure it's men.
Anyway, I looked at it this way: For me, relationships aren't about
sex. Sex is like icing on the cak
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