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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 2:29 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Cheney to fake heart attack?
Bill wrote:
Bush wins and there is going to be a divide between the faith based
And between the fically
: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:41 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Cheney to fake heart attack?
Andy wrote:
you appear to have a double standard.
No, there's no double standard. The standard is, have you been
fiscally responsible and are you willing
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:41 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Cheney to fake heart attack?
Andy wrote:
you appear to have a double standard.
No, there's no double standard. The standard is, have you been
fiscally responsible and are you willing to ignore political
Nope. It is ok to change. But one would hope that a presidential contender
would do sufficient research before presenting an opinion. It is clear on
his pay as you go plan he did not. Isn't this the same problem that you
are accusing Bush of? Acting before all of the information was in?
And
Andy wrote:
Double Standards tend to be transparent.
Your double standards arguments aren't logically consistent. For
example, you've compared statements Mr. Kerry made 30+ years ago as a
private citizen to statements Mr. Bush has made as President of the
United States during the State of
Isn't what he says to the people his public opinion? Or do we perceive
his public opinion as what the media tells us his opinion is?
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:21:48 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
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Nope. It is ok to change. But one would hope that a presidential contender
would
When i saw shrub saturday he called Kerry a Left Wing liberal and i
said GOOD it wasn't liberals who flew planes into the WTC. Good it
wasn't liberals who want to restrict human rights. And good it wasn't
liberals who are systematically trying to infringe upon our american
freedoms.
When did a
: Cheney to fake heart attack?
When i saw shrub saturday he called Kerry a Left Wing liberal and i
said GOOD it wasn't liberals who flew planes into the WTC. Good it
wasn't liberals who want to restrict human rights. And good it wasn't
liberals who are systematically trying to infringe upon our
Since the dawn of time g
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From: Bill Wheatley
When did a liberal become a bad thing? :
~|
Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expressions in 10 Minutes by Ben Forta
He is only saying that when challenged. All the rest of the time he is
being dishonest.
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From: Bill Wheatley
Isn't what he says to the people his public opinion? Or do we perceive
his public opinion as what the media tells us his opinion is?
Very good!
-Original Message-
From: Gruss
A liberal is a bad thing because most americans aren't liberal.
A conservative is a bad thing because most americans aren't conservative.
~|
Purchase from House of Fusion,
Bill wrote:
When did a liberal become a bad thing? :
During the 80s and, in my opinion, liberals then *were* a bad thing.
While I respect Mr. Dukakis' views, I think he would've made a
horrible President. For me the good news was that his loss crushed
the liberal, Great Society, delusions and
Yea i remember how i almost shit myself when i heard him say he was
going to do his faith based initiative's. To me watching him in 2000
he said hew as a religious guy but i must have missed the point where
he would try to bring church and state together.
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:59:25 -0500,
http://www.democracymeansyou.com/articles/article.php?ID=168
I don't know how true this is, but it will be interesting to see if this
plays out according to the article.
If it does play out and this article does get mentioned, will it make any
difference?
Speaking of ailments, I found another
I am not sure what is more disgusting --DNC smear tactics like this or the
continued rant by the DNC that the RNC is running an attack campaign.
Just another sign that Kerry is starting to flop.First the real mean side
of Kerry came out with the continued discussions of Mary Cheney, then the
As far as I can find out, the site is independent of the Democratic
party. So why the accusation of an attempted smear? Seems to me by
making these accusations (which appear to have no basis in reality),
you're just falling into the same mire you are accusing the democrats
ofdoing.
>From Whois:
Andy wrote:
I am not sure what is more disgusting --DNC smear tactics like this
So, to understand, it's your opinion that the RNC is above smear
tactics?They are a white knight of campaign ethics while the dirty
DNC just can't get out of gutter?Ha!
If either of these NCs had any ethics they'd
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:32:45 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not sure what is more disgusting --DNC smear tactics like this or the
continued rant by the DNC that the RNC is running an attack campaign.
They are. Both sides are. But I linked early an independent survey of
the
AM
Subject: RE: Cheney to fake heart attack?
I am not sure what is more disgusting --DNC smear tactics like this or the
continued rant by the DNC that the RNC is running an attack campaign.
Just another sign that Kerry is starting to flop.First the real mean side
of Kerry came out
See in line
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From: Kevin Graeme
I am not sure what is more disgusting --DNC smear tactics like this
or the
continued rant by the DNC that the RNC is running an attack campaign.
They are. Both sides are. But I linked early an independent survey of
the political
Just having some fun concerning earlier emails that blamed attack ads from on
RNC.
-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin
Why are you associating this article with the DNC?It comes from an
independent web site that has nothing to do with the DNC.
Do you think sites like NewsMax are
Oh jesus he was not being mean to mary cheney give it a rest. No
matter how much people say he was being mean or it was vulgar its all
bullshit get over yourselves.
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:32:45 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
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I am not sure what is more disgusting --DNC smear
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Oh jesus he was not being mean to mary cheney give it a rest. No
matter how much people say he was being mean or it was vulgar its all
bullshit get over yourselves.
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I agree that Kerry was not being mean to Mary Cheney.It was just
inappropriate IMHO.I am allowed my own views, aren't I?And his continued
using her name, although adding nothing to help us understand what he believes
in, is a reflection on him.
Andy
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From: Bill Wheatley
of course you are but who brought her up first? The cheney family did.
And he was being nice at that. Dick even argued against the
constitutional amendment that bush proposed so they agree on something
now.
Kerry used her name one time in the debate has kerry said anything
about her since? he
Bill wrote:
Bush wins and there is going to be a divide between the faith based
And between the fically conservative republicans and Mr. Bush and his
big government, fiscally liberal neo-conservative.Apparently new
conservative means fiscally liberal.
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Bill wrote:
Bush wins and there is going to be a divide between the faith based
And between the fically conservative republicans and Mr. Bush and his
big government, fiscally liberal neo-conservative.Apparently new
conservative means fiscally liberal.
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Andy wrote:
As noted earlier, it is not good to have same party running executive and
legislative branches.So I am voting for democratic senator and
representative.
The President has already proven himself unable to resist spending.
Even if congress were to be in Democratic control, as long as
Playing against the odds then? :-)
-Kevin
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:32:50 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
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As noted earlier, it is not good to have same party running executive and
legislative branches.So I am voting for democratic senator and
representative.
Andy
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I guess you don't follow all of the independent analysis that either Kerry is
lying about his programs or that he will out-spend Bush.
-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott to restore pay-go rules.
True fiscal conservatives will vote for Mr. Kerry - those who don't
forfeit their fiscal
Naw.The democratic folks are just better quality then the Republicans.I'd
vote for them either way. It just happens to help address a problem that I've
had with Bush's past 4 years.
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From: Kevin Graeme
Playing against the odds then? :-)
-Kevin
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004
Andy wrote:
I guess you don't follow all of the independent analysis that either Kerry is
lying about his programs or that he will out-spend Bush.
I've seen plenty of it, but Mr. Kerry has said if his programs can't
be paid for then he'll cut them. Last week on Hardball (MSNBC) Chris
So Kerry might not provide anything that's he's
promising to get elected?
The promised health plan might not happen.
Homeland security, national security, education,
environment, energy independence etc. all might get
cut if we can't afford it. What do we do, go into
depression mode?
What if
: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 5:26 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Cheney to fake heart attack?
Andy wrote:
I guess you don't follow all of the independent analysis that either Kerry
is
lying about his programs or that he will out-spend Bush.
I've seen
Sam wrote:
So Kerry might not provide anything that's he's
promising to get elected?
Yes, if it's discretionary.
That is, being that we borrow $2 Billion/day just to operate (mostly
from Europe, Asia, and Saudi Arabia), we can't afford anthing else
unless it's key to our defense.
Not only
Andy wrote:
you appear to have a double standard.
No, there's no double standard. The standard is, have you been
fiscally responsible and are you willing to ignore political pressure
to stay that way?
With Mr. Bush, fiscally, we have a known quantity:
1.) Discretionary spending increases at
chosen to select those facts that support what they'd like to be the truth
without presenting the other side.
Andy
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:41 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Cheney to fake heart attack?
Andy wrote
to select those facts that support what they'd like to be the truth
without presenting the other side.
Andy
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:41 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Cheney to fake heart attack?
Andy wrote
to his quick switch during the campaign from pro-war to anti-war to
Win-The-Peace of the democratic party.
Andy
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From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:14 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Cheney to fake heart attack?
Andy
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