Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Stroz
be the equivalent of rifles or handguns. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > And this... > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:08 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: W

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Stroz
statements about how guns may or may not handle 'backblast'. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Here you go... > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:19 AM > To: cf-communi

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
And this... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment OK...you keep believing in magic guns and bullets, I stay firmly rooted in the real

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
Here you go... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:19 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment Had to look it up, could not think of the reference at the time that proves this is

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
id hehehe...yay PDANet!!!), so the bandwidth kinda sucks, so I can't review video very well. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
ROFL... The heel was a play on the shoe theme...maybe he was just stringing us along... -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:37 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment I don't

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
Didn't you mean fast typing? hehehe -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment Stupid fat fingers... On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:31 PM,

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Stroz
; >> > You stated that it was a violation of the laws of physics. >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:57 AM >> > To: cf-community >> > Subject: Re: Daily

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Stroz
were/are wrong? > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Eric Roberts > wrote: >> >> You stated that it was a violation of the laws of physics. >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 20

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Medic
m> wrote: > > I wasn't going to say anything even though he is such a heel :-D > > -Original Message- > From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:31 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
I wasn't going to say anything even though he is such a heel :-D -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:31 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment You heard the man. Shoe him.

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
backwards -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:26 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment I never said that 'weapons don't absorb energy to reduce recoil' Please shoe

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Medic
re wrong? > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Eric Roberts > wrote: > > > > You stated that it was a violation of the laws of physics. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:5

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Stroz
z [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:57 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > Please show me where I said that. > > Attributing things to someone that they never said is dishonest. > > On

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
You stated that it was a violation of the laws of physics. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:57 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment Please show me where I said that

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Stroz
--- > From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:22 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > A .45 is slow moving compared to other penetrating bullets. It is > still a penetrating

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Stroz
onday, July 12, 2010 7:53 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > Truly sad that you cannot admit when you are wrong. > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Eric Roberts > wrote: >> >> Yeah...knockback as in being

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Roberts
y 12, 2010 6:29 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > Yes, a 45 is a penetrating bullet, it is not like a rubber bullet or > bean bag projectile. Please just go back and read the damn thing

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Roberts
f the blow. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment Truly sad that you cannot admit when you are wrong. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Er

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Medic
> > > admit you were talking out your ass. /me raises hand sheepishly ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: h

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Scott Stroz
0 6:24 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > Debating with you is like playing Calvin-ball. When you are confronted > with facts, you change the argument. > > So, now you are talking about 'knockback

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Judah McAuley
it's energy than say the faster moving 9mm which is why the .45 is > more effecting at knocking back your opponent. > > -Original Message- > From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:29 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: D

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
rom: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:29 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > Yes, a 45 is a penetrating bullet, it is not like a rubber bullet or > bean bag projectile. Please just go b

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
e > against body armor as far as penetration goes. > > -Original Message- > From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:57 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > >

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Roberts
absorb the energy by moving in the same direction. -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:29 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment Yes, a 45 is a penetrating bullet, it is

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Roberts
ssage- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:29 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment Yes, a 45 is a penetrating bullet, it is not like a rubber bullet or bean bag projectile. Please just go back and

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Roberts
Yeah...knockback as in being knocked back...pretty simple... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:24 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment Debating with you is like playing

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Scott Stroz
e- > From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 5:20 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Eric Roberts > wrote: >> >> The .

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Judah McAuley
but I think that would > qualify as a slug...it's a pretty huge round. > > -Original Message- > From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 5:20 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Secon

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Scott Stroz
ervation of momentum, the > gun's recoil is always larger than the bullet's knockback, as some momentum > of the bullet is lost during flight, and if the bullet penetrates through > the target it will not have imparted all its momentum into the target. > > -Original Messa

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Scott Stroz
s packing a heavy > punch. > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:35 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > Still waiting for any kind of p

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Roberts
Not sure if you have ever seen a .45 acp round, but I think that would qualify as a slug...it's a pretty huge round. -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 5:20 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > The .45 acp is a "slow" moving round...slow enough that it is ineffective > against body armor as far as penetration goes. Yes, I know, but most people out there aren't wearing body armor and a 45 round will be a penetrating round at reaso

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Roberts
 Again...go fire one and you will understand. > Something that can penetrate 27 inches of ballistic gel is packing a heavy > punch. > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:35 PM > To: cf-community > S

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Ian Skinner
On 7/12/2010 2:41 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > Just because there are no videos (or none that I can find) on the net > doesn't mean it is not true. Again...go fire one and you will understand. > Something that can penetrate 27 inches of ballistic gel is packing a heavy > punch. But that is a mean

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Roberts
o:ks...@gckschools.com] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:55 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > There are ways around Newton's third law in guns. The person firing the gun > doesn't necessarily have to abso

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Judah McAuley
understand. > Something that can penetrate 27 inches of ballistic gel is packing a heavy > punch. > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:35 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals shou

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Roberts
:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:35 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment Still waiting for any kind of proof I am wrong. You continue to tell me I am wrong, yet offer no proof. I have not found anything that supports your statement that

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Scott Stroz
0 9:55 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > There are ways around Newton's third law in guns. The person firing the gun > doesn't necessarily have to absorb all the force of the gun firing. You > can't les

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Scott Stroz
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Colt >> > >> > and this is what eventually replaced the m1911: >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9x19mm_Parabellum >> > >> > >> > Eric >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > F

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Ian Skinner
On 7/12/2010 10:12 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > I've got a high listen score so I'll just take a 10 on that check. :-] This thread has not devolved into a much more interesting and entertaining direction of late! ~| Order the Ad

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Maureen
If we are going to take out intruders with the item closest at hand, I would probably end up hitting them with the blunt end of an electric bass. There is family precedent for that. My dad once knocked out an armed attacker with his fiddle case. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Sisk, Kris wrot

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Sisk, Kris
I've got a high listen score so I'll just take a 10 on that check. :-] -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:10 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendm

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Roberts
rd though. It's a little hard to swing a > bastard sword indoors. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 9:57 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Roberts
Not according to Scott the physics expert... -Original Message- From: Sisk, Kris [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:55 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment There are ways around Newton's third law in

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Sisk, Kris
word though. It's a little hard to swing a > bastard sword indoors. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 9:57 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
ard to swing a > bastard sword indoors. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 9:57 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > We don&

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Sisk, Kris
necessity with high caliber guns. A 50 cal would be impossible to fire otherwise. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:19 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment Had to look it up

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Sisk, Kris
July 11, 2010 7:21 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment Any weapon that will knock the bad guy back a few feet will also knock you back a few feet. I know this because I saw it in

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Sisk, Kris
AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment We don't have any firearms in the house. But a four an a half foot bastard sword does a pretty good job of intimidation. ~| Order the A

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Medic
gt; and this is what eventually replaced the m1911: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9x19mm_Parabellum > > > > > > Eric > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:34 PM > &

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-12 Thread Scott Stroz
gt;> Go read up on the m1911 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 8:09 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment >> >> >

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Maureen
LOL. I'm a firm believer in Heinlein's axiom: Keep your shoes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Maureen wrote: >> >>  I had to sent it to snake heaven.  I  used a  22 pistol >> cause I don'

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Eric Roberts
: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I think something is going to happen as a result of the nonsensical complete > resistance to every bit of gun control...there is absolutely no compromise. > Like wi

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Robert Munn
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I think something is going to happen as a result of the nonsensical complete > resistance to every bit of gun control...there is absolutely no compromise. > Like with the assault gun ban...the NRA advertised it as the government > taking aw

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Eric Roberts
s is what eventually replaced the m1911: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9x19mm_Parabellum Eric -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:34 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment Show me vi

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Eric Roberts
sure that criminals and mentally challenged folk aren't getting weapons. -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 a

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Scott Stroz
hink you need to study how guns work. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:08 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment >> >&

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Robert Munn
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:  You can thank the NRA for the bulk of that as they have opposed > every bit of sensible legislation that was designed to right that in. Their > idiotic opposition to any gun control laws will eventually lead to guns > being banned. So there i

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Eric Roberts
Go read up on the m1911 -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 8:09 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment I think you need to understand physics. There is no gun that can be held

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Scott Stroz
t: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:08 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > OK...you keep believing in magic guns and bullets, I stay firmly > rooted in the real world. Sound fair? > > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Eric

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Eric Roberts
I think you need to study how guns work. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment OK...you keep believing in magic guns and bullets, I stay

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Scott Stroz
oming back at > you is absorbed by springs or vented and thus deflected in a different > direction thus lessening it's effect on you. > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:52 PM > To: cf-community >

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Eric Roberts
11, 2010 12:52 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment IIRC, the biggest gun they tested was a .50 caliber rifle. I do not have to fire a gun to know that any bullets it shoots cannot defy the laws of physics. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:05 A

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Scott Stroz
handgun was used up until the late 80's/early 90's when it was >>> replaced by the much less powerful (and more accurate at greater > distances) >>> 9mm. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Sco

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Had to look it up, could not think of the reference at the time that > proves this is physically imposible, its Newton's Third Law of Motion I don't know anything about either the Mythbusters episode nor the m1911, however, Newton's 3rd Law

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Eric Roberts
s powerful (and more accurate at greater distances) >> 9mm. >> >> Eric >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:21 AM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why li

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Scott Stroz
. >> >> Eric >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:21 AM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment >> >>

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
gt; From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:33 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > Here you go > http://www.thecmp.org/m1garand.htm > > different type of M-1 I know, bu

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Scott Stroz
greater distances) > 9mm. > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:21 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > Any weapon

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Eric Roberts
I was referring to the Abrams ;-) It was the main battle tank when I was in. Eric -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:33 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment Here

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Eric Roberts
Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:21 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment Any weapon that will knock the bad guy back a few feet will also knock you back a few feet. I know this because I saw it in Mythbusters.

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
ail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:03 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > I feel the same way. I am not against all gun control, but I think > there is a happy medium somewhere between 'no one can own a

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-11 Thread Scott Stroz
ly don't want to be put in > that situation.  I'll give my opponent a fighting chance and stick to blades > ;-) > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:49 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Dai

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Eric Roberts
To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment I could go for either of those, or maybe the M4 shotgun. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > I've got the Remington 870 Express. > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:16 P

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Eric Roberts
But it would be cool to have your own M1 :-D -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:03 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment I feel the same way. I am not against all gun

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Eric Roberts
That is very true. One would have thought we would have learned from prohibition, but apparently we don’t learn from our mistakes. -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 3:49 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Eric Roberts
That's not semanticsonly Sam antics ;-) -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 3:15 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment We already have gun control, by extending it you banish

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Eric Roberts
nal Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 2:46 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment So is your position that gun control only keeps guns from law abiding citizens? How does that work, since there

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Eric Roberts
Every day is a hyperbole day for Sam... -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 2:47 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment When did we "ban all guns", or even suggest tha

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Eric Roberts
BINGO! -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com] Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 2:25 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment On 7/9/2010 12:14 PM, Sam wrote: > Good point. While we're banning all guns beca

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Eric Roberts
rs own a gun. I just think the arguments against gun control make a whole lot more sense than the ones against it. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:29 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amend

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Eric Roberts
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Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Eric Roberts
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Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Medic
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Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Eric Roberts
I am a former SCAer myself...so yeah...same here hehe. On Jul 10, 2010 1:55 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: No the thing is a holdover from my SCA days. Sort of like the Black Knight from The Holy Grail. Besides seeing me in a loincloth would be scary enough. They'd probably die laughing. On Sat

RE: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Jeff Garza
t: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment No the thing is a holdover from my SCA days. Sort of like the Black Knight from The Holy Grail. Besides seeing me in a loincloth would be scary enough. They'd probably di

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No the thing is a holdover from my SCA days. Sort of like the Black Knight from The Holy Grail. Besides seeing me in a loincloth would be scary enough. They'd probably die laughing. On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > only if you put a loincloth on, wrap a leather cor

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Eric Roberts
Kinda sounds like my house...though mine us a longsword with a 2ft parrying dagger;) On Jul 10, 2010 9:56 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: We don't have any firearms in the house. But a four an a half foot bastard sword does a pretty good job of intimidation. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Scot

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
only if you put a loincloth on, wrap a leather cord around your head and shout in you're best Arnold voice "You moust leeve theese house now!". One of those blow up muscle suits wouldn't hurt either. On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > We don't have any firearms in the h

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Larry C. Lyons
We don't have any firearms in the house. But a four an a half foot bastard sword does a pretty good job of intimidation. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > >> >> I've used several different kinds of weapons, including Glo

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Scott Stroz
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Maureen wrote: > > I had to sent it to snake heaven.  I  used a  22 pistol > cause I don't know where the men folk hid the shotgun, I understand this is going to sound sexist, but that is one of the coolest things I have ever heard a woman say. -- Scott Str

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-10 Thread Maureen
The biggest villains you are likely to encounter in your new place are snakes. The neighbor's cat dragged one onto the grass by the steps last week, and I had to sent it to snake heaven. I used a 22 pistol cause I don't know where the men folk hid the shotgun, and I wasn't going to get close e

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-09 Thread Robert Munn
I could go for either of those, or maybe the M4 shotgun. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > I've got the Remington 870 Express. > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> >> We have a Benelli SuperNova tactical shotgun. ~~~

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-09 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I support open carry also...not that it would make a lot of difference as everywhere you go, private business here say that weapons are not allowed inside. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I like guns. I also support reasonable restrictions on the ability of > people to

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-09 Thread Scott Stroz
I feel the same way. I am not against all gun control, but I think there is a happy medium somewhere between 'no one can own any guns' and 'any one should be able to buy a tank' On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I like guns. I also support reasonable restrictions on the a

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-09 Thread Judah McAuley
I like guns. I also support reasonable restrictions on the ability of people to have them. The problem is coming up with a definition of "reasonable". The NRA makes me want to kick them in the nuts. They are anything but reasonable. On the other hand, I support things like open carry, which a lot

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-09 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I've got the Remington 870 Express. It's nice and loud when you're cocking it. Still thinking of getting a pistol for my wife though. She's afraid of the shotgun and doesn't even want to attempt shooting it. Can't say that I blame her since it does have quite the kick. It's not near as smooth

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-09 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > I've used several different kinds of weapons, including Glock, Sig > Sauer, snub-nosed .357, M1 carbine, black powder musket, .22 target > pistol, and shotgun. No assault rifles that I recall. If I were going > the rifle route, I would get e

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-09 Thread Sam
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > Whether or not that is worth pursuing as a policy and if it is > constitutional in the USA is a completely different argument.  But one > is not supporting ones side well if one argues from the assumption that > removing guns overall will have

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