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2004-03-01 Thread Ben Doom
Da Finoonchal Timesenborken. (with apologies to the Swedes) --benD Ben Braver wrote: speaking of which, how would you pronounce the financial newspaper in Sweden? The Wall Street Urinal? ;-) Kentucky Fried Journal? --Ben currently living in Kentucky Doom Harkins, Patrick wrote:

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2004-02-27 Thread Candace Cottrell
Here is an exchange between me and the said co-worker. Interesting. Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no right price for the wrong product, even

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2004-02-27 Thread Kevin Graeme
Jesus tells us or one of the disciples tells us? (Mark, Matthew, etc.) Just curious. Yeah, that's an interesting distinction. Similar to the words of Socrates who never actually wrote anything down. What we know of Socrates is almost exclusively from Plato and Xenophon. And from the writings of

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2004-02-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
Kevin, those are called _columns_ in Greece. They are supposed to be tall. They hold building up. Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/04 09:00AM And from the writings of Xenophon we can see that Plato put Socrates on a very high pedestal. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription]

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2004-02-27 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Kevin, those are called _columns_ in Greece. They are supposed to be tall. They hold building up. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/04 09:00AM And from the writings of Xenophon we can see that Plato put Socrates on a very high pedestal. Yeah but that would make Plato a columnist rather than a

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2004-02-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Well, there's biblical Hebrew which is the language of the Torah and writings and then there's 'modern' Hebrew which is the language used as a 'common' language in Israel. I dislike modern Hebrew because it throws out certain sounds from Hebrew. My complaint about altering words to fit a modern

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2004-02-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
If a son can not or will not say Kaddish, there are procedures in the orthodox community for a daughter to say it. I don't know them, but I've heard about it. That being said, the standard is to pay someone (or just ask) to say it in their place as Kaddish has to be said in a Minyan (collection of

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2004-02-27 Thread Sandy Clark
] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:59 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: KJ Version If a son can not or will not say Kaddish, there are procedures in the orthodox community for a daughter to say it. I don't know them, but I've heard about it. That being said, the standard is to pay someone (or just

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
It's an extremely little-known fact that these columns also help clean the air and remove pollution. A lot of people also take really clear photos of them. That's why they are now known as... ... Sharper Image Ionic Breeze /no, Ben, not even on Friday!! hee hee Kevin, those are called

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
Hatton, if Plato spread Socrates' words widely, would that make him a gossip columnnist? hehe -Ben Kevin, those are called _columns_ in Greece. They are supposed to be tall. They hold building up. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/04 09:00AM And from the writings of Xenophon we can see that Plato

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
Thanks, MikeyD, I learn a lot from you! :-) -Ben If a son can not or will not say Kaddish, there are procedures in the orthodox community for a daughter to say it. I don't know them, but I've heard about it. That being said, the standard is to pay someone (or just ask) to say it in their place as

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Doom
Are they going to release new models?The doric and corynthians?Will the corynthians be made of leather?If they are made of leather, will they be from the dull, padded image? --benD Ben Braver wrote: It's an extremely little-known fact that these columns also help clean the air and remove

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
The leather columns have to be inside, not visible, as they are hide. -BenB Are they going to release new models?The doric and corynthians?Will the corynthians be made of leather?If they are made of leather, will they be from the dull, padded image? --benD Ben Braver wrote: [Todays Threads]

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2004-02-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Just remember that I'm not a Rabbi. What I say is based on what I know and have seen, but may not be 100% correct. Like I said below, I don't know the procedures so a religious authority should be contacted for exacts. Just covering my soul in case. :) Thanks, MikeyD, I learn a lot from you! :-)

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2004-02-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
That message has created the need for a new Internet acronym IANAR Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/04 12:07PM Just remember that I'm not a Rabbi. What I say is based on what I know and have seen, but may not be 100% correct. Like I said below, I don't know the procedures so a religious

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2004-02-27 Thread Kevin Graeme
And there needs to also be a corresponding: INAP Which I do. For hours at a time, preferably. -Kevin That message has created the need for a new Internet acronym IANAR Jerry Johnson [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
OK, you're not a Rabbi. But, Reb MikeyD, you're the most authoritative source on the list! And IMHO your soul is already covered. :-) -Ben Just remember that I'm not a Rabbi. What I say is based on what I know and have seen, but may not be 100% correct. Like I said below, I don't know the

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
And IPUN. Constantly. ;-) -Ben And there needs to also be a corresponding: INAP Which I do. For hours at a time, preferably. -Kevin That message has created the need for a new Internet acronym IANAR Jerry Johnson [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe]

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2004-02-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
That message has created the need for a new Internet acronym IANAR ??? what does it stand for? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

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2004-02-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I am until Ben Forta joins the community list. He actually IS a Rabbi. :) OK, you're not a Rabbi. But, Reb MikeyD, you're the most authoritative source on the list! And IMHO your soul is already covered. :-) -Ben Just remember that I'm not a Rabbi. What I say is based on what I know and

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
Seriously? Whoa! Hmm, when scripts have run 8 times, does he do a bris on them? ;-) I am until Ben Forta joins the community list. He actually IS a Rabbi. :) and have seen, but may not be 100% correct. Like I said below, I don't know the procedures so a religious authority should be contacted

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2004-02-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
I Am Not A Rabbi. (IANAL is pretty standard for I Am Not A Lawyer) Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/04 12:41PM That message has created the need for a new Internet acronym IANAR ??? what does it stand for? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe]

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2004-02-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Well, I am a Rabbi in the respect that I'm a teacher, but in the respect of being a religiously 'ordained' one, nope. I Am Not A Rabbi. (IANAL is pretty standard for I Am Not A Lawyer) Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/04 12:41PM That message has created the need for a new

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
ROFLMAL bb I Am Not A Rabbi. (IANAL is pretty standard for I Am Not A Lawyer) Jerry Johnson ??? what does it stand for? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
ROFLMAL - that's either a typo, or Laughing My *ss Loose hee hee ROFLMAL bb what does it stand for? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

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2004-02-27 Thread Lyons, Larry
I thought that IANAL stood for how um, how do I say this, anal one was? larry -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 12:47 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: KJ Version I Am Not A Rabbi. (IANAL is pretty standard for I

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
I have a big conflict here, folks. IANAL *cannot* mean I Am Not A Lawyer, since IMNSHO all lawyers are anal until proven innocent. -Ben I thought that IANAL stood for how um, how do I say this, anal one was? larry [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User

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2004-02-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
Your reasoning is unclear, sir. IANAL could mean I anal. IANAL could mean I am not a lawyer I could be anal AND not a lawyer. I've heard this more than once.. It would be more difficult to be a lawyer and not anal, but that would be: IAAL (I am a lawyer) IANANAL (I am not anal) *pttth*

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
/methinks this becoming a mutual brain fart hehe Your reasoning is unclear, sir. IANAL could mean I anal. IANAL could mean I am not a lawyer I could be anal AND not a lawyer. I've heard this more than once.. It would be more difficult to be a lawyer and not anal, but that would be: IAAL (I am

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2004-02-27 Thread Lyons, Larry
You're really being anal about this you know. larry -Original Message- From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:38 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: KJ Version I have a big conflict here, folks. IANAL *cannot* mean I Am Not A Lawyer, since

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2004-02-27 Thread Harkins, Patrick
You think you got it bad? every time I see this thread I keep thinking KFC version. Maybe KJ is a cross between LJ and KFC? Or is it the hilbilly version of LJ? eg -Original Message- From: Ben Braver /methinks this becoming a mutual brain fart hehe Outbound email scanned for viruses.

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Doom
Kentucky Fried Journal? --Ben currently living in Kentucky Doom Harkins, Patrick wrote: You think you got it bad? every time I see this thread I keep thinking KFC version. Maybe KJ is a cross between LJ and KFC? Or is it the hilbilly version of LJ? eg -Original Message- From: Ben

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2004-02-27 Thread Harkins, Patrick
LOL! -Original Message- From: Ben Doom Kentucky Fried Journal? --Ben currently living in Kentucky Doom Outbound email scanned for viruses. (e230) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
No Sh*t, Sherlock You're really being anal about this you know. larry [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

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2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
speaking of which, how would you pronounce the financial newspaper in Sweden? The Wall Street Urinal? ;-) Kentucky Fried Journal? --Ben currently living in Kentucky Doom Harkins, Patrick wrote: [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

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2004-02-26 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Huh? What does no vowels have to do with translation? It's rather easy to look at a word, look at its context and know exactly what's going on vowels or not. Of course, the language DOES have vowels, but they are 'added' onto a word, not letters like in English. If it was done via committee, then

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2004-02-26 Thread Kevin Graeme
Oh, and if you want to read some wacky ideas about religion and all sorts of other stuff: http://www.popmartian.com/mcelwaine/ Here's one in particular that I've never forgotten: http://www.popmartian.com/mcelwaine/rants/jehovah-cannibals I went to school with this guy and he was absolutely

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2004-02-26 Thread Harkins, Patrick
Not sure why, but they say that King James altered the virgin to fit his own agenda. -Original Message- From: Candace Cottrell Can someone tell me why the King James version of the bible is said to be altered to fit his own agendas? Outbound email scanned for viruses. (e232) [Todays

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2004-02-26 Thread Kevin Graeme
Mike, I've recall reading something a while back in a discussion of translation where a Rabbi was referring to Old Hebrew or something like that. Does that ring a bell with you at all? -Kevin Huh? What does no vowels have to do with translation? It's rather easy to look at a word, look at its

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2004-02-26 Thread Lyons, Larry
He deflowered the text I take it. larry -Original Message- From: Harkins, Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:50 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: KJ Version Not sure why, but they say that King James altered the virgin to fit his own agenda

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2004-02-26 Thread Ben Braver
: Candace Cottrell To: CF-Community Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:25 PM Subject: Re: KJ Version Thanks. I was bothered by the fact that the king may have altered things to fit his own agenda. And there were some folks here criticizing me and making me feel like an idiot. I brought up

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2004-02-26 Thread Sandy Clark
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:40 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: KJ Version /me withholds comment about Sandy's brother so as to not offend Sandy -Ben This reminds me of a funny story. To give the background, my family is Jewish but not religious and my brother

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2004-02-26 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Can someone tell me why the King James version of the bible is said to be altered to fit his own agendas? I did some searching to come up with an answer - here's one site that gives a little insight - http://www.nccg.org/nccm/KJV5.html It's actually a rebuttal of those who think that the

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2004-02-26 Thread Ben Braver
Altered the virgin? what, removed her hyphen? ;-) Not sure why, but they say that King James altered the virgin to fit his own agenda. -Original Message- From: Candace Cottrell Can someone tell me why the King James version of the bible is said to be altered to fit his own agendas?

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2004-02-26 Thread Sandy Clark
Son's as of possessive. A Father's son.Beat me, please. cfsnip cf_grammar_geek_warning BTW, son's what? son's is possessive, as in son's cluelessness, sons is plural, as in the ones who are required. /cf_grammar_geek_warning /cfsnip I can't wait to hear what he has to say about the Passion of

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2004-02-26 Thread Kevin Graeme
In a roundabout way of answering the question, I'll point to something discussing the various historical revisions the bible. http://www.atheists.org/church/realbible.html I'll acknowledge that it's a biased source, but it still provides some historical background. One quote: We may note one

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2004-02-26 Thread Ben Braver
who are required to do Kaddish, daughters are exempt). _ From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:40 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: KJ Version /me withholds comment about Sandy's brother so as to not offend Sandy -Ben This reminds me of a funny story

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2004-02-26 Thread Candace Cottrell
Thanks. I was bothered by the fact that the king may have altered things to fit his own agenda. And there were some folks here criticizing me and making me feel like an idiot. I brought up the subject of divorce. Wasn't it true that in the original texts, divorce was never permissable, but in

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2004-02-26 Thread Doug White
- Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz To: CF-Community Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:27 PM Subject: Re: KJ Version Huh? What does no vowels have to do with translation? It's rather easy to look at a word, look at its context and know exactly what's going on vowels

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2004-02-26 Thread Angel Stewart
*looks left* *looks right* Uhhright here? Ummok...if wu insist.. 0_0 *raises leather thong whip* *SNAP!* }8-P -Mr. Gel Sir. -Original Message- From: Sandy Clark Son's as of possessive. A Father's son.Beat me, please. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

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2004-02-26 Thread Kevin Graeme
I've heard the divorce thing as well, but I don't know the veracity of it. Here's an aspect of the translation issue though: the Red Sea. http://ohr.edu/ask/ask273.htm#Q1 An interesting bible to read is the 1973 New Standard Revised. It contains many footnotes describing literal, cultural and

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2004-02-26 Thread Doug White
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2004-02-26 Thread Kevin Graeme
The Hebrew language contains no vowels, and therefore is extremely difficult to translate into English. I don't think that's quite right, my understanding is that the consonants contain the meat of the meaning, but the vowel sounds change the words subtley. But I'll defer to those who've spent

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2004-02-26 Thread Sandy Clark
:25 PM Subject: Re: KJ Version Thanks. I was bothered by the fact that the king may have altered things to fit his own agenda. And there were some folks here criticizing me and making me feel like an idiot. I brought up the subject of divorce. Wasn't it true that in the original texts, divorce

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2004-02-26 Thread Lyons, Larry
Question, who is his? larry -Original Message- From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:22 PM To: CF-Community Subject: KJ Version Can someone tell me why the King James version of the bible is said to be altered to fit his own

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2004-02-26 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Another quote: The Greek version reflects a Hebrew text more than a thousand years older than the Hebrew text used as the standard for the King James. Maybe if a Jew was asked then they would understand the Hebrew from a thousand years earlier. The Hebrew didn't change and the study of it has

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2004-02-26 Thread Candace Cottrell
The King? Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no right price for the wrong product, even if it is inexpensive and delivered on time. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2004-02-26 Thread Charlie Griefer
Elvis? - Original Message - From: Candace Cottrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:31 PM Subject: RE: KJ Version The King? Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH

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2004-02-26 Thread Ben Braver
No. Son's as of possessive. A Father's son.Beat me, please. cfsnip cf_grammar_geek_warning BTW, son's what? son's is possessive, as in son's cluelessness, sons is plural, as in the ones who are required. /cf_grammar_geek_warning /cfsnip I can't wait to hear what he has to say about the