Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-12 Thread Dana
apparently not. I just checked and you are right about the dates -- the stuff with the Bastille and the Declaration of the Rights of Man was in 1789. Apparently I confused the revolution itself with the underlying writings, which were a couple of decades earlier. Turgot and Rousseau and Montesquieu

Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-12 Thread Sam
Nobody else noticed this is backwards? On 1/11/06, Dana wrote: > The French revolution preceded the American revolution and they ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:191987 Archives: http://www.houseoffusio

Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Dana
> > - Matt > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" > > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:59 PM > > Subject: RE: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America > > >

Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
l. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:46 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America > > > > Tim, > > > >

RE: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Tim Heald
We didn't chop their heads off in public squares Larry, that's a bit of a different level. > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:46 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Next in line to be la

Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
gt; > -Original Message- > > From: Chesty Puller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:37 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America > > > > First of all, we had westward expansion

RE: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Tim Heald
Good response. > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:10 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America > > Uh, no... > > Many of the wr

RE: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Tim Heald
rture a prisoner? If there are no static moral laws, how do you measure right from wrong, individual rights, and responsibilities? > -Original Message- > From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:02 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re

RE: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Tim Heald
> 1.) There are many people in this world that are always and > truly benevolent. > 2.) A country can count on only these people aspiring to and > holding office. > 3.) None of these people exist in the US. Seriously, with our current administration in power, how can anyone not see that large g

RE: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Scott Stewart
y studying the artwork. The only "Word of God" is the universe itself. " Scott A. Stewart ColdFusion Developer GNSI 11820 Parklawn Dr Rockville, MD 20852 (301) 770-9610 -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:

RE: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Tim Heald
sday, January 11, 2006 6:37 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America > > First of all, we had westward expansion - 40 acres and a mule. > But then think about the French Revolution. > > - Matt > > - Original Message

Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > Many of the writers of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, > were in fact Atheists, Agnostics and Deists, there were very few > "Christians" and I'd dare say none in the modern "religious right" view. > I agree, and this is knit-picking, but is it fair to say tha

Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Gruss Gott
> Gel wrote: > The point I'm making is that your Constitution was based on Religious > Morality. > Not on any ill-defined 'natural' rights of man. > The line "we hold these truths to be self-evident" was changed by Benjamin Franklin just to avoid referencing God. Of course then there's whole sep

RE: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Scott Stewart
on. Scott A. Stewart ColdFusion Developer GNSI 11820 Parklawn Dr Rockville, MD 20852 (301) 770-9610 -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:02 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America The po

Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Vivec
The point I'm making is that your Constitution was based on Religious Morality. Not on any ill-defined 'natural' rights of man. On 1/10/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The mind of man, their educations, the magna carta, thousands of years of > history. > > I don't see the point you're tryi

Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Gruss Gott
> T-Bone wrote: > The mind of man, their educations, the magna carta, thousands of years of > history. > > I don't see the point you're trying to make. > The constitution was written by a bunch of people who decided that a monarchical class system sucked because people, by nature, were "acquisitiv

Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-11 Thread Chesty Puller
Original Message- >> From: Chesty Puller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:43 PM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America >> >> >> I think that Gruss doesn't realize that a co

RE: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-10 Thread Loathe
The mind of man, their educations, the magna carta, thousands of years of history. I don't see the point you're trying to make. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:57 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Next in line to be

RE: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America

2006-01-10 Thread Loathe
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:43 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America > > > I think that Gruss doesn't realize that a country without a > welfare program > is going to be run over by criminals killing others for ga