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From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community"
Sent: 9/12/2007 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Recruiters (was RE: Unbelievable!)
** Private ** wrote:
> I'm not really fond of Bruce's choice of words, but I understand his point.
&g
i would do any ones job at 1/2 price...
specially if i was un-employed & needed rent..
On 9/12/07, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ** Private ** wrote:
> > I'm not really fond of Bruce's choice of words, but I understand his point.
> > How are we supposed to compete, with someone wh
** Private ** wrote:
> I'm not really fond of Bruce's choice of words, but I understand his point.
> How are we supposed to compete, with someone who will work for half, or less
> of what we do.
If you are competing with them based on price, you are in the wrong business.
Most of these guys would
e, instead of hiring into
the professionals.
William
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-Date: Sep 11, 2007 13:34
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-You provide services that they can't. You provide face-time, or
-cultural underst
You provide services that they can't. You provide face-time, or
cultural understanding, or an accent that the client can understand.
You provide management for the mud-hut-dwelling-towel-wearers. You push
the routine stuff to cheap labor overseas and take care of the
architecture and tricky b
Scott Stewart wrote:
> I'm not really fond of Bruce's choice of words, but I understand his point.
> How are we supposed to compete, with someone who will work for half, or less
> of what we do. There's a whole network that would be more than willing to
> push you or me or Bruce out of a job to sen
4:06 PM
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Subject: Re: Recruiters (was RE: Unbelievable!)
Bruce Sorge wrote:
> I have not heard of this but it does not surprise me. There is a site
called
> Rent A Coder. I don't know how many projects I bid on but I was constantly
> out bid by some towel-head in a mud
Well you do know that you do not have to read my posts, right? Just like I
don't have to look at the stupid idiot kids wearing their pants half way
down their ass. Get over it. I did recently.
On 9/11/07, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> I'm not a big fan of off-shore outsourcing of programming work for
Bruce Sorge wrote:
> I have not heard of this but it does not surprise me. There is a site called
> Rent A Coder. I don't know how many projects I bid on but I was constantly
> out bid by some towel-head in a mud hut in India. So needless to say I quit
> that site. Fortunately it was free to bid. I
o see the
quality of work they bought.
Bruce
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:27 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Recruiters (was RE: Unbelievable!)
I receive at least 3 offers a day for a position in San Jose or San
Francisco, by both emai
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:27 PM
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I receive at least 3 offers a day for a position in San Jose or San
Francisco, by both email and phone. I live in LA. I had one recruiter
actually try to argue that the drive was
September 11, 2007 12:20 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Recruiters (was RE: Unbelievable!)
Yeah, those exchanges get me all the time as well. I dare not post my
listing locally because I know for a fact I'd get called by at least
one local recruiting agency for it.
That'd be a trick
7;required' pay rate, so
they can bid on projects better. Anyone else heard of this?
William
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-Date: Sep 11, 2007 12:20
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-> No those are the guys that call me d
> No those are the guys that call me daily,
> Claiming his name is "Bob Smith"
>
> Or you get email exchanges like this...
>
> Read from the bottom
Yeah, those exchanges get me all the time as well. I dare not post my
listing locally because I know for a fact I'd get called by at least
one lo
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:15 PM
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