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2003-12-22 Thread Paul Ihrig
just saw it for the 2nd time last night with my wife. when the head of ministirith sends his son off to near certain death there is a scene with gandolf staring at some empty baskets. what's up with that? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

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2003-12-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
;   - Original Message - >   From: Larry C. Lyons >   To: CF-Community >   Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 11:31 PM >   Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER - > >   Elfquest of course. Evercrack is different. > >   larry > >   At 09:30 PM 12/21/2003, you wro

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2003-12-22 Thread Calvin Ward
PM   Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER -   Elfquest of course. Evercrack is different.   larry   At 09:30 PM 12/21/2003, you wrote:   >Did you mean EverQuest or ElfQuest fans?   >   >...   >   - Original Message -   >   From: Larry C. Lyons   >   To: CF-Co

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2003-12-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
ust a high-school gym or >   >auditorium, but SO MANY great people lived in that area.  Jim Shooter, > Berni >   >Wrightson, the Pinis, and lots of others that I can't remember.  The > Hudson >   >Valley was a gold mine for comic pros. >   > >   > >   &

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2003-12-21 Thread Jim Davis
ElfQuest - the comic. Do rabid EverQuest fans ever actually leave their homes?  ;^) Jim Davis   _   From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 9:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER - Did you mean EverQuest or ElfQuest

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2003-12-21 Thread Calvin Ward
Did you mean EverQuest or ElfQuest fans? ...   - Original Message -   From: Larry C. Lyons   To: CF-Community   Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 11:45 AM   Subject: RE: Return of the King - SPOILER -   Glad I'm not  the only one with that impression. Some of the EQ fans   I'

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2003-12-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
e upstate shows were great - just a high-school gym or >auditorium, but SO MANY great people lived in that area.  Jim Shooter, Berni >Wrightson, the Pinis, and lots of others that I can't remember.  The Hudson >Valley was a gold mine for comic pros. > > >Jim Davis > >

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2003-12-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
was largely incoherent and completely unfunny. > > >Jim Davis > > >   _   > >From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 3:53 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER - > > >Wizards came before B

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2003-12-20 Thread Jim Davis
ers that I can't remember.  The Hudson Valley was a gold mine for comic pros. Jim Davis   _   From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 3:58 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Return of the King - SPOILER - Given that he filmed it first then animated on

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2003-12-20 Thread Jim Davis
etely unfunny. Jim Davis   _   From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 3:53 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER - Wizards came before Bakshi's LOTR, and it was merely coloured scenes from the movie Zulu. Fire and

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2003-12-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
rsion. > > >Jim Davis > > >   _____   > >From: William H Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 2:55 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER - > > >The rotoscoping was better in Wizards, too. > >will &

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2003-12-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Wizards came before Bakshi's LOTR, and it was merely coloured scenes from the movie Zulu. Fire and Ice used a much more involved rotoscopy technique. I was at a conference years ago and had a few minutes to talk to Bakshi about the technique.  He's really gone downhill over the years. I think C

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2003-12-20 Thread Jim Davis
). But still, I wish Bakshi had been able to do the second installment of his version. Jim Davis   _   From: William H Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 2:55 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER - The rotoscoping was better i

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2003-12-20 Thread William H Bowen
The rotoscoping was better in Wizards, too. will Larry C. Lyons wrote: > I have the movies on DVD, the Rankin and Bass The Hobbit and Return > of the King, and Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings.  The Rankin and > Bass stuff are garbage, the Bakshi film was an interesting > experiment. The rotosco

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2003-12-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I have the movies on DVD, the Rankin and Bass The Hobbit and Return of the King, and Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings.  The Rankin and Bass stuff are garbage, the Bakshi film was an interesting experiment. The rotoscopy technique he used was much better developed in  film Fire and Ice he did wi

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2003-12-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
I have an even vaguer memory of the animated movies.  :-)   I think I'm going to have to read the books again. At 04:05 PM 12/19/2003, you wrote: >Subject: Return of the King - SPOILER - >From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:40:01 -0600 >Thread: >http://www.houseof

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2003-12-19 Thread Kevin Graeme
> Not explicitly.  In the book they go on to have families and become > important Hobbits of the Shire.  I would say that the male love that is > being descibed as homoerotic and/or gay in this list, is supposed to be > Chivileric and/or Esperit de Corps type feelings that are not very much used >

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2003-12-19 Thread Ian Skinner
- Original Message - From: "Jeffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 7:25 AM Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER - >   I seem to remember the spider being able to talk (?) and Sam wea

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2003-12-19 Thread Kevin Graeme
ffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:25 AM Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER - >   I was pretty unimpressed.  The movie started off slow and ended > slow.  But, the middle was very good.  I

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2003-12-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
I was pretty unimpressed.  The movie started off slow and ended slow.  But, the middle was very good.  I'll agree that a few of the scenes look pretty bluescreen-ish, as someone else said on this list.  I thought the same about a few scenes in The Two Towers.   The flow of this one felt more "j

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2003-12-19 Thread Kevin Graeme
Well at least I was having fun while watching the movies! -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Jerry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER -

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2003-12-19 Thread Jerry Johnson
Me thinks you have given this _WAY_ too much thought. =) Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/19/03 10:43AM >>> -Kevin [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

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2003-12-19 Thread Ian Skinner
MAJOR SPOILER . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SOME MORE WHITE SPACE FOR THOSE WITH LARGE MONITORS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I felt the same way about the end of the movie.  Not exactly disapointed, after 3 1/2 hours my bottom was getting sore, but I would have liked to see the Battle o

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2003-12-19 Thread Kevin Graeme
l keep your secret. But I miss you." -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Adam Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:02 AM Subject: RE: Return of the King - SPOILER - > I must admit

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2003-12-19 Thread John Stanley
Oh, that was too deep for me. -Original Message- From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:10 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Return of the King - SPOILER - The vagina was bad.  Duh!! -- Timothy Heald Web Portfolio Manager Overseas Security

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2003-12-19 Thread Kevin Graeme
Message- > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:02 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER - > > > Caution. Do not read if you hold LoTR sacred. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. &g

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2003-12-19 Thread Heald, Tim
opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail is unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Return of the King - SPOILER

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2003-12-19 Thread John Stanley
ontext. -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:02 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER - Caution. Do not read if you hold LoTR sacred. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. Are you kidding!?! That's what I thought throughou

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2003-12-19 Thread Adam Reynolds
I must admit when Frodo woke up and they were all prancing on that bed it was all very homo-erotic. All it needed was a pot of elf jelly :)   -Original Message-   From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: 19 December 2003 13:43   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Return of the

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2003-12-19 Thread Kevin Graeme
--- From: "Haggerty, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:29 AM Subject: RE: Return of the King - SPOILER - > That comment is just inappropriate. This is the LOTR, for goodness sake. > Something must be

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2003-12-19 Thread Haggerty, Mike
That comment is just inappropriate. This is the LOTR, for goodness sake. Something must be sacred. M -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:43 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER - space

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2003-12-19 Thread Kevin Graeme
space... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... > Also the only reason Frodo was leaving the shire was because the blade shard > stuck in his chest was slowly moving towards his heart. The elves could > prevent this so he had to go with them. > I thought Frodo left because his gay lover Samwise spur

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2003-12-19 Thread Calvin Ward
I was good with it, I feel that different mediums have different ways of handling things, and also creative license comes into play. Basically, the most important thing to me was that the spirit of Tolkien's work was preserved, not necessarily the exact events. Peter Jackson did an incredible job