Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-07 Thread dana tierney
feels like talking to a battered wife. Such denial. Dana - Original Message - From: Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 18:24:43 -0400 Subject: Re: Two good books out today To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >  Unemployment is still high, new jobs

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-06 Thread Robert Munn
>  Unemployment is still high, new jobs are still low, The stock market closed >today below 10,000.  in a six week slide. - I just don't see the improvement you >do. Unemployment is 5.5%, historically a low number, not a high number. The jobs numbers today were not good, but we're arguing about wh

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-06 Thread dana tierney
m Wheatley > > Coldfusion Guru > > > > Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, > >  for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. > >   - Original Message - > >   From: Sam Morris > >   To: CF-Community > >   Sent: Thursday, August 05,

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-06 Thread dana tierney
Looks like a reputable journalist. But I was just going by the numbers on CNN, which are now in the three digits almost every day. Dana On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 08:55:23 -0400, Harkins, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for those that think that Iraq is settling down... > http://www.robert-fisk.com

RE: Two good books out today

2004-08-06 Thread Harkins, Patrick
Yes, yes and yes. I wonder if it is less to do about hypocrisy now than about being caught in the grip of the demon of war in other words, is war the disease and disjointedness the symptom? Today for the first time I am also wondering if we are in the early days of what will become known as the

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-06 Thread Doug White
A Scary read, but more proof that the Republican administration is continuing to deceive the public, and you will never see any mention on Fox or on Rushie. It seems to be so hypocritical for a group of people to claim such moral high ground, and continue to lie and mislead for their own political

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-06 Thread Bill Wheatley
Truedat William Wheatley Coldfusion Guru     Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.   - Original Message -   From: Kevin Graeme   To: CF-Community   Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 9:32 AM   Subject: Re: Two good books out today   You

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-06 Thread Kevin Graeme
>   - Original Message - >   From: Sam Morris >   To: CF-Community >   Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 6:42 PM >   Subject: Re: Two good books out today > >   --- Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >   > LOL they were talking about the Republican

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-06 Thread Bill Wheatley
illiam Wheatley Coldfusion Guru     Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.   - Original Message -   From: Sam Morris   To: CF-Community   Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 6:42 PM   Subject: Re: Two good books out today   --- Bill Wheatley &l

RE: Two good books out today

2004-08-06 Thread Harkins, Patrick
for those that think that Iraq is settling down... http://www.robert-fisk.com/articles427.htm PS. I know that's not you dana >-Original Message- >From: dana tierney > >you're kidding, right? > >economy getting better, Iraq settling down Outbound email scanned for viruses. (e230) [T

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Kevin Graeme
-- > > From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 15:42:46 -0700 (PDT) > > Subject: Re: Two good books out today > > To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > --- Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > L

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Sam Morris
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Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Doug White
One must view this stuff (attack) in the light of the fact that commanders write the citations.  Kerry would not have had any influence on that at all. Therefore his commander must have seen some merit in the award of the medal. They are not automatic, not for sale and your argument then must be w

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread dana tierney
favoritism in the awarding of this metal? If so what is your opinion of serving one day a year in wartime? Dana - Original Message - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 16:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Two good books out today To: CF-Community <[EMAIL

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Sam Morris
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > murdered a wounded child? > O'Neill continues: "Kerry's boat moved slightly downstream and was struck by a rocket-propelled grenade. . . .A young Viet Cong in a loincloth popped out of a hole, clutching a grenade launcher, which may or may not have be

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Doug White
- Original Message -   From: Robert Munn    Barack Obama's. It's depressing to see what a dud the Democratic candidate is compared to a guy who isn't even a Senator yet. I would vote for a Democrat, no problem, maybe Obama one day if he puts together a decent record in the Senate, but not

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Doug White
Moore's movie MADE money, in fact more than any documentary in history, and continues to make money - what have you to say about that? As for Negative ads, the Dems have spent relatively little, and Kerry refuses to allow any of his campaign funds go for negative ads.   - Original Message

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread dana tierney
Sam, 527s attack Bush? Please back this up. Dana - Original Message - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 15:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Two good books out today To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread dana tierney
you're kidding, right? economy getting better, Iraq settling down [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

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2004-08-05 Thread Sam Morris
--- Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LOL they were talking about the Republican National > Party not just random people who are not members of > the national party. > > But moveon.org is a great idea to get people to > vote. They don't say vote for kerry they just say > get off your ass

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread dana tierney
ng dollars very intelligently. Dana - Original Message - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 15:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Two good books out today To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How much did the Dems spend? Don't forget to count M

RE: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Like MTV, they say "Vote for Something"... From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 6:38 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Two good books out today LOL they were talking about the Republican National Part

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2004-08-05 Thread Robert Munn
>Looks like Robert has made up his mind, huh? :-0) > Pretty much. I don't buy into the Republican attack rhetoric about Kerry, but I don't buy into the Democratic posturing about the guy being some kind of heroic leader either. He is a second-rater who played the safe bet and squeezed into the nom

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread William Bowen
Moore isn't a Dem, so his movie doesn't count. >Don't forget to count Moores movie and MoveOn.org. and if it does then you can lump in the Heart and Soul of America. will [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Bill Wheatley
o not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.   - Original Message -   From: Sam Morris   To: CF-Community   Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 6:33 PM   Subject: Re: Two good books out today   How much did the Dems spend?   Don't forget to co

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Sam Morris
sitive > campaigning. > > > >   - Original Message - >   From: dana tierney >   To: CF-Community >   Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:02 PM >   Subject: Re: Two good books out today > > >   murdered a wounded child? > >   - Original Message - >   From:

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Doug White
The Republicans have already spent $61 million just on negative ads bashing Kerry.   More than they actually spent on positive campaigning.   - Original Message -   From: dana tierney   To: CF-Community   Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:02 PM   Subject: Re: Two good books out today

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Actually not. On his application for the question that asked whether he was willing to serve overseas, he checked the no box. larry On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 14:12:31 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So Sam, > > > > How do you feel abo

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread dana tierney
murdered a wounded child? - Original Message - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 14:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: Two good books out today To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bush never claimed to be a war hero Kerry did. Bush never claimed he c

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Jim Campbell
You know, I think Kerry drank the blood of that kid in a Satanic ritual, too. And he speaks French. - Jim Sam Morris wrote: >Bush never claimed to be a war hero Kerry did. Bush >never claimed he committed war atrocities Kerry did. >Nobody said Bush murdered a wounded child in cold >blood. Not o

RE: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Sam Morris
Bush never claimed to be a war hero Kerry did. Bush never claimed he committed war atrocities Kerry did. Nobody said Bush murdered a wounded child in cold blood. Not only was Kerry accused of this outrageous crime; he even went back and re-enacted it for his home movie. Even if Bush was AWOL for t

RE: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Jerry Johnson
I don't think it is changing the subject. You are scrutinizing every aspect of John Kerry's service during the Vietnam war. To avoid hypocrisy, you should scrutinize every aspect of George W. Bush's service during the war as well. That is, if you have any intention of being fair. I notice that

RE: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Sam Morris
--- Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So Sam, > > How do you feel about George W. Bush's military > service during those same years? He was in the National Guard as a fighter pilot. He was trained and ready for the call. It's amazing how easy it is to change the subject isn't it? -sm

RE: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Jerry Johnson
So Sam, How do you feel about George W. Bush's military service during those same years? Jerry Johnson [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

RE: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Sam Morris
> Are you suggesting that someone must lose a limb or > some kind of major > trauma in order to get a purple heart? Not at all, but a splinter? If you read chapter 3 you'd know that his commanding officer denied him the purple heart stating it looked like a rose prick and witnesses said there was

RE: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Marlon Moyer
Sam, > -Original Message- > From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 1:46 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Two good books out today > > --- Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > They also claim he

RE: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Sam Morris
--- Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mr O'Neill said: 'We don't understand why Kerry would make the centrepiece of his campaign an exaggerated account of his four months service in Vietnam 33 year ago, but since he is, we believe that the public is entitled to the truth about his service a

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Doug White
Looks like Robert has made up his mind, huh? :-0)   - Original Message -   From: Robert Munn   >I guess it's normal to have people with both good and bad opinions of   >someone like Kerry in Vietnam.   Give me a break. Kerry spent fourh months in Vietnam on a boat. On a boat, not roamin

RE: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Marlon Moyer
> > Give me a break. Kerry spent fourh months in Vietnam on a boat. On a > boat, not roaming around in the jungle. My father did two tours in the > jungle in Vietnam in '62 and '63 as a Green Beret. And he didn't do it so > he could come home and launch a political career, either. He did it to > s

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Well compare that toShrub's sterling service during the Vietnam conflict in the Cadillac squadron, and or not showing up for duty over a period of months. In that case being wounded several times in the service of his country is a point for Kerry. larry On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 13:13:07 -0400, Robert

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Robert Munn
>I guess it's normal to have people with both good and bad opinions of >someone like Kerry in Vietnam.   Give me a break. Kerry spent fourh months in Vietnam on a boat. On a boat, not roaming around in the jungle. My father did two tours in the jungle in Vietnam in '62 and '63 as a Green Beret. An

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Doug White
Interesting NOT that the RNC spends so much money attacking their opponent instead of bolstering support for their own programs. Military records clearly show the award of the Purple hearts, and not one of them are fake.  Now what may be in question is what he originally did with them, or reporte

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Sam Morris
"The Kerry campaign denounced the ad and denied that Letson had tended to the senator's wound." That statement is enough for me to dismiss the entire book. :) You think maybe Kerry's not being honest? Here's the ad: http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_video_wmv.html -sm --- "Larry

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
> > -Original Message- > > From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:28 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Two good books out today > > > > You know, it seems to me that colons in political book titles

Re: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I was reading in the Post today that some of the claims, especially the one about the faking of the purple heart, has already been disproven. Lewis Letson who claims that he treated Kerry for one of his wounds, apparently never treated Kerry. So given this lack of veracity, then doesn't that questi

RE: Two good books out today

2004-08-05 Thread Marlon Moyer
y opinion about Bush during Vietnam. Marlon > -Original Message- > From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:28 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Two good books out today > > You know, it seems to me that colons in

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2004-08-05 Thread Jim Campbell
You know, it seems to me that colons in political book titles are the stylistic equivalent of bands with numbers in their names in the mid-1990's. Just sayin' - Jim Sam Morris wrote: >American Soldier >by Tommy Franks >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060731583 > >Unfit for Command : Sw