Geez.
and here I thought that 'liberal' thinkers were supposed to be open
minded and accepting of others points of views, and that 'Republicans'
were the close minded ones.
Some of you are really getting downright hostile to any pov but your
own.
-Gel
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I hope you can see the irony in suggesting there's something wrong with me
for continuing a discussion in a message which continues that discussion.
;^)
I won't get into attempting to default the situation as you are clearly
going to take anything said as continued (but I'm sorry, I still feel
ima
, but pile up enough garbage and it's hard
to ignore.
Jim Davis
From: Angus McFee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 3:19 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage
Sam Morris, teh most tragic casualty of teh right wing atta
Brak says...
> Some 45% of Americans have very similar beliefs to Sam's, are they
> also "tragic casualties of the right wing attack machine" ?
>
> Myopic statments like this one have little constructive valuenow i
> fear i have to read an "-sm" rebuttal.
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> Sam Morris, teh most tragic casualty of teh right wing attack machine.
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Perfect rebuttal!
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From: Sam Morris
To: CF-Community
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage
Thanks for your concern.
-sm
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From: Angus McFee
To: CF-Community
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage
Sam Morris, teh most tragic casualty of teh right wing attack machine.
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Thanks for your concern.
-sm
--- Angus McFee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sam Morris, teh most tragic casualty of teh right
> wing attack machine.
>
> Anyone ever heard that Space Ghost song about
> wanting Tardos to come to their senses?
>
> >--- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I
Sam Morris, teh most tragic casualty of teh right wing attack machine.
Anyone ever heard that Space Ghost song about wanting Tardos to come to their senses?
>--- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I dont agree. First of all a back seat driver doesnt
>have hindsight, hes just arrogant.
>Th
I dont know whats wrong with you. I thought we were
done here but you need to throw a few more punches.
Whatever.
First of all I don't know what kind of friendly
conversations you have were you'd say to someone you
don't know that his words make no sense. Then when
that person explains to you wh
m: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:31 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage
Thank you for passing judgment doctor.
I really didn't want to get into this but since you
have so many opinions about me and you
Thank you for passing judgment doctor.
I really didnt want to get into this but since you
have so many opinions about me and you needed to share
them I guess I need to reply.
> But, why do you - (you, Sam Morris, not "your kind")
> need to? Why do you
> always seem to reply to criticism with b
ver are Kerry and Edwards liberal when compared to Bush and
Cheney? Yes, definitely.
Jim Davis
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 9:41 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage
/me raises hand.
As I said a
/me raises hand.
As I said a while back, I don't actually know what, really, a
"conservative" or a "liberal" or "left" or "right" is. I can read
definitions of them, but the textbook definitions don't seem to have
much to do with how the terms are actually used. Mostly, I see the
words being used
I believe that I started challenging you for making glib, unsubstantiated
statements (the same kind of statements that you have challenged others on
several times). I said "it doesn't sound like." (which was my opinion) and
"I've no idea whatsoever how you can come to that conclusion from the
stat
--- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> In fact even the conclusion seemed flawed since
> >> "Monday Morning Quarterback"
> >> specifically refers to somebody that claims that
> >> they could have done
> >> something better than somebody else.
> >
> >No wonder we cant agree.
> >Monday Mor
--- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You make statements of opinion and I inquired how
> you could possibly come to
> them from the material at hand. You attempted to
> explain it, but I simply
> can't see how the conclusions follow the facts. I'm
> actually pretty good,
> usually, at unde
>From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:51 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage
>
>--- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I've no id
--- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've no idea whatsoever how you can come to that
> conclusion from the
> statement.
I guess Ill have to explain it. And they say I have a
reading comprehension problem :)
> In fact even the conclusion seemed flawed since
> "Monday Morning Quarterback"
ty when it came
to determining "top stories".
Jim Davis
From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 7:47 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage
Assistant managing editor Bob Woodward told Mr.
Kurtz that no journalis
If reporting the news is considered "The low road" then I think there should be
more "Low Road" reporting!
If the WH does not wish certain information published, then do not reveal it to
a reporter.
But going back to the beginning, I still believe the rationale for the invasion
was wrong, full of
Somehow this just doesn't sound plausible coming from Bob.
-Original Message-
From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 6:47 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage
Assistant managing edito
If it is true that the Times agreed not to publish, then I tend to agree ( 0_0 ) that the NYTimes did do something they shouldn't have.
HOWEVER!
there are some simple rules:
1. There is no such thing as off the record.
2. a scoop by any other name is still worthless if you're not the first to prin
I don't believe that's true. The NY Times was trashing
the White House for the terror alert. WH told them
it's more recent then they think and here's who it is
but keep it a secret. WH said it was givin to the
Times as deep deep background for the story. Seems
this is done a lot. NY Times should tu
> responsibility for their
> actions.
>
>
>
> Jim Davis
>
>
>
>
>
> _
>
> From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 3:05 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for
>
Nope that was an entirely different group. I think she was financing
the Washington Opera at the time.
larry
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:37:04 -0500, Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wasn't the publisher of the Post the person financing all the anti-Clinton
> skullduggery? Hardly a liberal
>
I would have a hard time blaming a journalist for "leaking" secrets, because
that is exactly what their job is. I would blame the administration for
providing the information in the first place.
It would seem to be a no-brainer that if you do not want something published,
then do not disclose it,
Wasn't the publisher of the Post the person financing all the anti-Clinton
skullduggery? Hardly a liberal
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From: Larry C. Lyons
The Post is a very liberal paper? What are you smoking?
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Question, why would the Bush administration give intelligence information to a media outlet if they did not want it published?
Intelligence is not handed out as "deep background" for "validity."
Did the New York Times not honor the pinky swear clause?
I'm glad that you have said that the Bush a
I think we agreed that the NPR was extremely liberal. I might have missed
it with the papers.
--- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Post is a very liberal paper? What are you
> smoking?
Rolled up Washington Post, want a hit?
Didn't we all agree this was an extremely liberal
pa
pting responsibility for their
actions.
Jim Davis
_
From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 3:05 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage
Yes I read it and it a very Liberal paper claiming
that they were prote
--- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Post is a very liberal paper? What are you
> smoking?
Rolled up Washington Post, want a hit?
Didn't we all agree this was an extremely liberal
paper last week?
-sm
__
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Mail - 50x more
I was being sarcastic. They are both far on the left.
Funny how you refer to the NY Times as an authority,
and then blame the administration for the leak.
The White House gave that info to the NY Times in deep
background just to give it validity. The NY Times
published the name knowing damn well
that are now
> > saying the same thing.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Sam Morris
> > To: CF-Community
> > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 2:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for
> > prewar coverage
> >
> >
; balanced?) in their pre-war reporting. They are
> also one among many news organizations that are now
> saying the same thing.
> - Original Message -
> From: Sam Morris
> To: CF-Community
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 2:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Washinto
Because many consider the NYTimes and the Post as authorities, that is why. The
main statement being that they were duped by believing the Administration's
rationale.
I can appreciate the fact they are doing a re-assessment of reporting policies,
and conspicuous by their absence are the right win
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage
What a coincidence. I knew back then there were no
WMDs but didn't tell anyone.
I also know who's going to win the most gold medals
but I'm not going to tell you
What a coincidence. I knew back then there were no
WMDs but didn't tell anyone.
I also know who's going to win the most gold medals
but I'm not going to tell you until it's over.
Why would anyone read that right-wing rag anyway?
-sm
--- Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> NEW YORK -- Th
Hey I wonder how the Dixie chicks would do if they said what they said at this time, rather than during the time the war was really gettin everyone into the patriotism thing (which i thought, for the most part, was really superficial and people just trying to feel good about themselves)
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