Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-31 Thread Dana
:) oh you're right. "Those people" are just not like "us." you're the one who can't seem to let it go at the moment ;) Dana On 10/30/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you just can't let it go, can you? > > > > -- > --- > Robert Munn > www.emergentpath.com > > ~~~

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Munn
you just can't let it go, can you? -- --- Robert Munn www.emergentpath.com ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-30 Thread Dana
I am just appreciating the irony of your position :) Still think New Orleans should not be rebuilt? On 10/30/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some people would not evacuate and the firefighters did the right thing and > saved those people before saving property. I never said otherwise

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Munn
Some people would not evacuate and the firefighters did the right thing and saved those people before saving property. I never said otherwise. The vast majority of people left when asked. Half a million people evacuated, there was very little criminal activity in the wake of the fires, and in gen

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-30 Thread Dana
I'm not sour. You are saying untrue things is all. On Oct 29, 2007 11:29 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what are you so sour about? > > On 10/25/07, Dana wrote: > > > > actually -- a lot of them did not. Some of the early news stories were > > talking about the fire-fighting beng ham

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-29 Thread Ian Skinner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Personal responsibility is paramount in this world. If the people > want to 'stay and see', or 'stay and fight', they should have that > right. And the rest of us should have the right to have the > firefighters who should be fighting the fire, not the homeowner, to

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
s signed. > actually -- a lot of them did not. Some of the early news stories were > talking about the fire-fighting beng hampered by having to forcibly > evacuate > people. -Original Message -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Date: Oct 29, 2007 9:29 -To: "CF-Community" -S

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-29 Thread Robert Munn
what are you so sour about? On 10/25/07, Dana wrote: > > actually -- a lot of them did not. Some of the early news stories were > talking about the fire-fighting beng hampered by having to forcibly > evacuate > people. > ~| Cold

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Sam
They still evacuated. On 10/25/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > actually -- a lot of them did not. Some of the early news stories were > talking about the fire-fighting beng hampered by having to forcibly evacuate > people. > ~~

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Dana
actually -- a lot of them did not. Some of the early news stories were talking about the fire-fighting beng hampered by having to forcibly evacuate people. On 10/25/07, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > my point. > > On 10/25/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They evacuated when asked? > >

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Several reasons. Our government was prepared, they got word out early, and > people cooperated- not only with the government, but with each other. > It seems like California, and maybe San Diego specifically, should become a model for disaster management. Y'all should really do

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Cameron Childress
I wonder what would happen if the entire city of San Diego were told to evacuate and that only the people who didn't have transport went to the Stadium. Alot of the people least likely to have transport in San Diego are actually hispanic, not black. It's kinda apples and oranges, but I do won

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Robert Munn
Several reasons. Our government was prepared, they got word out early, and people cooperated- not only with the government, but with each other. I don't include the Feds in this little love-fest. They are involved, but all of the early work, the important work, was done by first responders from ci

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Sam
Do I really need to mention the school buses again? On 10/25/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as I recall, the problem in New Orleans was that many residents > could not afford to evacuate. Even those that did ended up in the most > horrid conditions. > > The US Gov't has stated that

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Tony
and i guess at this point george bush likes black people? tw On 10/25/07, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my point. > > On 10/25/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They evacuated when asked? > > > > On 10/25/07, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > EVERYONE is not getting that treatment. >

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Vivec
As far as I recall, the problem in New Orleans was that many residents could not afford to evacuate. Even those that did ended up in the most horrid conditions. The US Gov't has stated that things are better in San Diego because of the lessons it learnt form New Orleans, and claims that its respon

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Tony
my point. On 10/25/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They evacuated when asked? > > On 10/25/07, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > EVERYONE is not getting that treatment. > > the masses arent. > > > > spotty, varied people are... but not the masses. > > > > why are the masses there so much be

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Ian Skinner
3) the shelters where they are staying are actually out of the disaster area, vs. the superdome which was smack dab in the middle of the disaster itself. To say this another way no where near 100% of San Diego has gone up in flames. New Orleans was a little more completely involved. ~~

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Sam
They evacuated when asked? On 10/25/07, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > EVERYONE is not getting that treatment. > the masses arent. > > spotty, varied people are... but not the masses. > > why are the masses there so much better behaved? > > no rapings? > no deaths? > no violence of any sort? >

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Deanna Schneider
Well, I'm not there, but my understanding is that the fires aren't displacing major urban areas. Aren't they primarily displacing suburb type places? Places where people have transportation and some disposable income? That can go a long way. On 10/25/07, Tony wrote: > EVERYONE is not getting that

RE: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Shawna Hampton
Not to mention lights and working bathrooms?? -Original Message- From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:48 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: the dichotomy of disasters Perhaps because they're being fed gourmet meals and provided with

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Tony
EVERYONE is not getting that treatment. the masses arent. spotty, varied people are... but not the masses. why are the masses there so much better behaved? no rapings? no deaths? no violence of any sort? no philanderers? no breaking into stores? hmmm... On 10/25/07, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PR

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Deanna Schneider
Perhaps because they're being fed gourmet meals and provided with free massages while they're in the football stadium? On 10/25/07, Tony wrote: > so. > > why is it that the displaced san diegans are so much better behaved > than the displaced new orleaners? > > hmmm > > ~

RE: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Jacob
Because San Diego has a better football team??? -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:14 AM To: CF-Community Subject: the dichotomy of disasters so. why is it that the displaced san diegans are so much better behaved than the

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread G Money
Just hypothesizing here but... 1) they were MUCH more prepared, because of recent fires and improvements SINCE Katrina 2) they are much more affluent, and have much better means to see to their comfort and safety 3) the shelters where they are staying are actually out of the disaster area, vs. the

the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-25 Thread Tony
so. why is it that the displaced san diegans are so much better behaved than the displaced new orleaners? hmmm -- 'Never have anything in your life that you can't walk out on in thirty seconds flat, if you spot the heat coming around the corner' robert deniro - heat (1995) ~~~