Ok, so I'm now trying to get my reports opening within a cfwindow. I've got
the reporting.cfm page as the value of the source attribute (of cfwindow),
and am binding some form values from a cfform on the page containing the
cfwindow tag to the url in the source attribute, to be used when
As long as you are setting the content type you should be fine.
On 10/23/07, Luke Fromhold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, so I'm now trying to get my reports opening within a cfwindow. I've got
the reporting.cfm page as the value of the source attribute (of cfwindow),
and am binding some form
My first app using Coldspring the coldspring installation works
on my dev server, but when i upload it to the (shared) production
server, i get the following error when i try to instantiate the
DefaultXmlBeanFactory cfc:
[quote]
The method getClass was not found in component
On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cfset BeanFactory =
createObject(component,coldspring.beans.DefaultXmlBeanFactory).init()/
Well, that certainly should work, I'm sorry to say.
What CF version is your host ?
--
Tom Chiverton. Are you a great ColdFusion programmer, who knows
On Monday 22 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which, according to the docs, is only limited by max_allowed_packet.
You must be on the wrong page.
#oldCompany# had an Oracle install that crapped out at 100 items.
--
Tom Chiverton. Are you a great ColdFusion programmer, who knows Reactor and
G'day Tom,
Thanks for you reassurance. At least it means (if i've uploaded the
code correctly) that it OUGHT to work.
The host is CF8 while my Dev machine (on which the code does work) is
CF7. Does that make a difference?
In the mean time i'll upload the code again, just to make sure all the
On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The host is CF8 while my Dev machine (on which the code does work) is
CF7. Does that make a difference?
Nope, ColdSpring runs fine on both of those.
--
Tom Chiverton. Are you a great ColdFusion programmer, who knows Reactor and
ColdSpring,
On Monday 22 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So I am lazy and have been using CFINVOKE for my CFC's since DW has a
nice drag and drop function for this.
...
Anyone else run across this
Things like that is just the smallest in a long line of things wrong with
DreamWeaver compaired to
I've uploaded the coldspring core code again , with no change.
I posted this same question to the Coldspring mailing list too but
after 6 hours now it stlil hasn't appeared. I guess the coldspring
list is dead.
I guess i'll just have to give this idea away and go back to my own
home-grown
Um, while it isn't drag and drop, the Services Browser in CFE lets you
right click to insert a cfinvoke as well. Is your problem with the
drag/drop, or the cfvinoke? Since cfinvoke has no practical difference
form other cfc method calling methods, I'm not sure what the problem
is.
On 10/23/07,
in our company intranet, we use coldfusion application for managing todo list,
task /project asignment, as well as exchanging memo with other staff.
sometimes... we need to HAND write / draw something rather than typing.
Is there any customtags to allow user to write / draw something (using
I have a list of plant sizes that I want to set to a variable. The list
contains quotes and apostrophes. I can't seem to set the list to a variable
with both. I have to separate them out like so. Is there a way to combine
them?
cfset sizeList = '4 pot,1 quart,2 quart,1 gal.,2 gal.,3
You have to escape them all. So, replace every instance of ' with '',
and every instance of with and you should be set =)
Chris Peterson
Gainey IT
Adobe Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
-Original Message-
From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23,
That works because you switched string delimiters in your variables...
The first one uses single quotes around the whole string and has
internal double quotes; and second has the opposite.
To combine them just remember that you can include the string delimiter
in the string itself just double
Try using the ascii equivalent, or maybe the HTML entity equivalent?
This:
cfset sizeList2 = 2-3 /
would become this:
cfset sizeList2 = 2-3quot; /
or this:
cfset sizeList2 = 2-3#34; /
-Original Message-
From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:31
I retrieve a bunch of dynamic DateFroms and DateTos that a user has input into
a form.
!--- Loop through the dateField IDs to get the Dates ranges---
cfloop list=#form.DatefieldID# index=id
!--- Get the dates---
cfset DateFrom = form[dateFrom_ id]
cfset DateTo = form[dateTo_
Thanks Andy. Who ever thought that anything this ugly would work. ;)
cfset sizeList = 4 pot,1 quart,2 quart,1 gal.,2 gal.,3
gal.,2-3,3-4,3-6,4-5,5-6,6-8,8-10,10-12,12-15,15-18,18-2
4,2-3'',3-4'' /
-Original Message-
From: Peterson, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October
I retrieve a bunch of dynamic DateFroms and DateTos that a user has input into
a form.
!--- Loop through the dateField IDs to get the Dates ranges---
cfloop list=#form.DatefieldID# index=id
!--- Get the dates---
cfset DateFrom = form[dateFrom_ id]
cfset DateTo = form[dateTo_
On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pity,
For sure.
Things to try when you get the chance include createObject() without the
init(), and cfdump the result.
--
Tom Chiverton. Are you a great ColdFusion programmer, who knows Reactor and
ColdSpring, and has done some Flex work ?
I retrieve a bunch of dynamic DateFroms and DateTos that a user has input into
a form.
!--- Loop through the dateField IDs to get the Dates ranges---
cfloop list=#form.DatefieldID# index=id
!--- Get the dates---
cfset DateFrom = form[dateFrom_ id]
cfset DateTo = form[dateTo_
Hi all,
I have been trying to develop a WHOIS page and have been using the following
http request
cfhttp
url=http://reports.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois?whois_nic=#form.domain##form.ext#type=domain;
method=GET
resolveurl=yes
throwonerror=yes
/cfhttp
I'm setting up a new development server that'll house CF 8, IIS 6 and
SQL 2005 on Windows 2003 64-bit. The reason for 64-bit is that it's a
requirement for Exchange 2007 which will also be on this box.
Can anyone shed some light on whether there will be any problems with
this set up? I've been
Instead of cast('#form.test#' as int(4)) I'd try #val(form.test)# and
a cfqueryparam would probably help the situation as well
Original Message ---
I have a input box wher I am getting the value for my where clause.
INstead I am getting the error Error
Anyone found a real solution to the 2d array problem?
Hi we've been working on this and I get to post.
Mackenzie
Sigh. I'm having a problem returning an array from a webservice. It works
when the array is only 1 dimension. When the array
has 2 dimensions it does not work. I'm
Exchange, SQL, and CF on the same box? That sounds like a disaster
waiting to happen! Here are a few things that jumped into my head when
I read your post:
What happens when you're debugging code that keeps crashing the server,
and you have to reboot a dozen times a day (from an Exchange
They're in a different system... ARNIS or something like that...
--
Scott Stewart
ColdFusion Developer
SSTWebworks
4405 Oakshyre Way
Raleigh, NC. 27616
(703) 220-2835
http://www.sstwebworks.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks
Boycott Sys-Con
-Original Message-
From: Mark
Of course if the load is not large and the machine is powerful, you can
always put everything in it's own VM
Russ
-Original Message-
From: Eric Cobb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New 64-bit Dev Server
Exchange, SQL,
Speaking to one point here I'm not a fan of putting all these together
on the same box. In particular I don't like bundling the web server and DB
server together. But in regard to your point about Exchange and SQL server
stepping on each other - that's not terribly likely. MS small business
Is there any customtags to allow user to write / draw
something (using tablet) , and coldfusion will save those
memo as jpeg / gif image.
what I mean is something like evernote program
(http://www.evernote.com) , but run inside coldfusion.
No, because that would require client-side
That's a good point, I didn't think about virtualization.
Also, I guess it would depend a lot on the specific situation. Are we
talking about a small office with 10 email users, 1 web app. and 1
database? In that case, the one server setup may work just fine.
But, if there are numerous
I found this website..
http://www.mainada.net/inputdraw/examples
is this something can be applied ? ... or any better ideas ?
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I read through an article months ago talking about the setup of backend servers
for load balancing, failover, clustering, etc. It had diagrams for different
levels of backend stability. I believe the article was by a ColdFusion blogger.
Anyone have a clue where I can find this article/blog. I
My plan is to have a generic modify page that I can pass in the DAO, and
then the page would automatically create the correct form fields. I could
probably use Transfer to make this work (there does seem to be a bit of
meta-data stored in TransferObjects), I'd prefer to roll something up
inhouse
I am actually not using Autowiring -- I'm manually setting up the ColdSpring
file with the dependencies, but the config is being generated dynamically
for me beforehand by another application.
I'm not actually parsing an existing CFC for the dependencies, unless I'm
mis-understanding what you
Yes! One of my favorite tools :)
Jonathon
-Original Message-
From: henry ho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: programmatically add functions to a CFC
btw, since you're into code generation, have you checked this out?
Illudium
On 10/23/07, Daniel Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I read through an article months ago talking about the setup of backend
servers for load balancing, failover, clustering, etc. It had diagrams for
different levels of backend stability. I believe the article was by a
ColdFusion blogger.
datediff() is what you are looking for.
--Ben Doom
Andrew Whone wrote:
I retrieve a bunch of dynamic DateFroms and DateTos that a user has input
into a form.
!--- Loop through the dateField IDs to get the Dates ranges---
cfloop list=#form.DatefieldID# index=id
!--- Get the
Okay. Except Oracle != MySQL 5. MySQL 5 was what was specified in the
original, forgive the pun, query.
--Ben Doom
Tom Chiverton wrote:
On Monday 22 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which, according to the docs, is only limited by max_allowed_packet.
You must be on the wrong page.
Hi,
I'm running CFMX 7 on a Windows 2003 Server - Standard Edition.
I upgraded from MX 6 using the upgrade procedure during the MX7 install.
After installing, I disabled MX6 in services.
All has been running great for some months now, at least 6.
My problem is that the jrun.exe process has
Has anyone notice weird messages in their logs for CF8?
I have some entries like this
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Macromedia\ColdFusion\CurrentVersion\Clients\77908-41216193:
Windows error 0 occurred.The operation completed successfully.
10/22 23:26:51 Information [scheduler-0] - Cannot open
Luke,
do you have the filename attribute set for your cfreport tag? If this isn't set
it basically outputs the code for a PDF file into HTML, making well
gobbledegook...
Try setting a filename and then your overwrite attributes for the cfreport tag.
I have the following:
cfwindow
not sure about the tablet bit but simple free-form drawing is kind of trivial
in
flex.
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Lots of things could cause JRun to max out, including but not limited
too; bad code or client variable clean up.
Check your logs to see what's going on.
No, you don't need to have CF6 installed to upgrade to 7. After you
stick in your CF7 upgrade key, the install process should detect it's
an
That is it. Thank you!
On 10/23/07, Daniel Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I read through an article months ago talking about the setup of
backend servers for load balancing, failover, clustering, etc. It had
diagrams for different levels of backend stability. I believe the
article was
how to add a session variable on the tab click in Coldfusion
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Forum direct from active programmers and developers.
1. What could be causing Jrun to be running at 98%+ ?
Lots of things.
2. Do I HAVE to have CFMX6 installed to run my upgrade
edition of MX7?
No, I don't think so. You may have to manually remove all traces of the
previous install first, however:
I'd wager that the problem has to do with the fact that this is a shared
host. Something clearly isn't correct since obviously many people (including
myself) are using ColdSpring on shared hosts. You might ensure that the cfc
dot paths are resolving correctly (it looks like you might be using
anything that happens in the browser (e.g. clicking) is client side.
coldfusion is server side.
the only way to trigger a CF action (e.g. setting a session variable)
after a client side event would be:
1) go back to the server (add a link to the tab) that sets the
variable on the server and then
Hi, I am running a coldfusion page that calculates a large volume of variables,
which has thus far not been a problem. The pages have worked fine (maybe taken
a while to load) on my testing server on some web space I have. However, I
uploaded the file to its final resting place on a
On 10/23/07, Jonathon Stierman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am actually not using Autowiring -- I'm manually setting up the
ColdSpring
file with the dependencies, but the config is being generated dynamically
for me beforehand by another application.
cfcomponent extends=Components.Core.DAO
Jenny,
There are many reasons that JRUN might be hanging ... Requests thresholds,
out of memory, JVM config options, networking I have quite a few entries
on my blog about as do many others who monitor this list. Just search JRUN
or hang... And see what you get... Here are a couple of mine.
First, you can use constructor injection instead of setter injection
In some cases, yes. In other cases, I have circular dependencies, which
cannot use constructor injection. I typically always use setter injection
for this reason -- I find it's more flexible.
Second, you seem to be calling
hi, I posted a while ago about an outofmemoryerror: java heap space problem.
Anyway, it's looking like the only way to fix this problem is to re-write some
programming. The program I wrote is for displaying a tree structure of
people in a database based on the upline person. IE: i recruit
Is there any customtags to allow user to write / draw
something (using tablet) , and coldfusion will save those
memo as jpeg / gif image.
what I mean is something like evernote program
(http://www.evernote.com) , but run inside coldfusion.
No, because that would require client-side
Switch to using BlueDragon.NET instead of ColdFusion, and implement ScaleOut
StateServer to syndicate your Session objects.
Works great, and is realistically scalable to dozens of servers in a single
cluster.
Also, unless they radically changed CFLOGIN in CF8, BlueDragon.NET is still
the only
I am looking for anyone who has used the cfwebstore software before. I have
a client who is using a very old version (3.1) and needs to update the
shipping rates table. The tables are organized by service. For example there
is a next day air table called UPS_1da and has the following fields. I
Hey all...
up front, i'm not a server guy. just a code monkey :)
with that disclaimer out of the way... got a question about load
balancing and failover of cf servers.
as i understand it...
there is the concept of sticky sessions, where all requests by a
particular user stick to a particular
I need to be able get the value from the drop down and pass ethis value to
cfquery function which located on the second tab of the form. Once i selected
the drop down item i clicked on the submit button and going to the second tab
but nothing getting passed to the query. Help?
we haven't moved to CF8 yet (still on CF7), but I had heard that
CF8 would actually have this functionality built in (the
ability to use sessions in a clustered environment). quick
googling tho seemed to indicate that this was an expensive
process and not necessarily recommended (?)
Have you considered an alternate storage method for your users/subusers? Or
possibly put some restraints in place? 22 levels deep sounds a little
excessive.
I've had good luck storing related records using a parent-child relationship
(or adjacency list) method:
anything that happens in the browser (e.g. clicking) is client side.
coldfusion is server side.
the only way to trigger a CF action (e.g. setting a session variable)
after a client side event would be:
1) go back to the server (add a link to the tab) that sets the
variable on the server and then
I'm not sure I can help with re-writing your code for you however this seems
to fit the bill of recursion. With some clever work with CSS, you could
make your tree structure very efficiently.
http://tutorial478.easycfm.com/
-Original Message-
From: Jessica Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL
Hi all,
Here is an interesting OT for you. Is there any way to restrict how
much bandwidth, how many rows, or how high a priority a user has when
connecting to a MSSQL2K server?
My issue is that we have a user, who for political reasons we can't just
boot out of the db, who we were forced to
What do you have the submit button doing? Does it actually submit to
the server, or just forward to the next tab?
For CF to process information, you have to make a server trip of some
kind.
If you are making the server trip, but not seeing the information
passed, what are you naming your
On 10/23/07, erik tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
anything that happens in the browser (e.g. clicking) is client side.
coldfusion is server side.
the only way to trigger a CF action (e.g. setting a session variable)
after a client side event would be:
1) go back to the server (add a link to
Hi Jessica,
What I'm about to say isn't CF-specific, but it true for all web apps.
Simply testing the application on a server does not indicate that it's going
to run fine in a production environment. The fact that you know of a large
amount of variables indicates that you already know
Hi Jessica,
What I'm about to say isn't CF-specific, but it true for all web apps.
Simply testing the application on a server does not indicate that it's going
to run fine in a production environment. The fact that you know of a large
amount of variables indicates that you already know
Hi Jessica,
What I'm about to say isn't CF-specific, but it true for all web apps.
Simply testing the application on a server does not indicate that it's going
to run fine in a production environment. The fact that you know of a large
amount of variables indicates that you already know
Set up a SQL Express server for him with nightly (?) replication, when
it won't affect performance so much. Let him beat the crap out of that
to his heart's content. Bonus points if you put it on his workstation,
so he's dragging down his own workstation.
--Ben don't mess with my servers
I'm trying to call a web service and getting AxisFault errors. This is
happening on both CFMX 6.1, and 8. The WSDL is valid. I am at a loss as to
what this error means or what I can do. Any ideas? I'm trying to use a new
version of commision junction's web service that was recently launched.
A
how to add a session variable on the tab click in Coldfusion
The tab click would have to submit an HTTP request, either through the usual
mechanism of a link or HTTP form, or via AJAX. The page requested could then
set the session variable you want.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
Hi Jessica,
What I'm about to say isn't CF-specific, but it true for all web apps.
Simply testing the application on a server does not indicate that it's going
to run fine in a production environment. The fact that you know of a large
amount of variables indicates that you already know
Was there a solution found for this problem?
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Thanks for you interest Brian.
No the ybunp9 is the directory above the root. It's what is added by
the expandpath() part of the path to coldspring. is that not what i
should do?
here's the line i am using in the code:
cfset BeanFactory =
DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) wrote:
My issue is that we have a user, who for political reasons we can't just
boot out of the db, who we were forced to grant access to our database.
He is using Access XP to connect to our database, he then proceeds to
download two of our largest tables into
I'm trying to get SVN autoversioning (webDav) configured for use with
dreamweaver (in this case, dreamweaver 8). It seems like it's working, but I
can't publish new files. Also, I'm not seeing file revisions when I post new
files. Admittedly, I'm new to SVN so this could easily be a user issue.
What do you have the submit button doing? Does it actually submit to
the server, or just forward to the next tab?
For CF to process information, you have to make a server trip of some
kind.
If you are making the server trip, but not seeing the information
passed, what are you
Charlie,
Like Dave Watts said, session replication is hit-or-miss depending on the
application, the user load, the server architecture, the network
architecture, etc.
Typically, I recommend thinking about what kind of data you need to
replicate and can you put that data in a cookie as a backup
So is it actually submitting? And, if so, please answer my second
question.
You currently have two threads on CF-Talk, and in both of them, you ask
vague questions and do not entirely answer what should be simple
questions. If you want help, you have to be clear about what you want.
--Ben
I had a chat to the support guy at teh hosting company. and now i have
a stack trace for this error. It's apparently looking for something
in a folder that doesnt exist. There is no
E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm
there's the stack trace:
at
hey all..
appreciate the responses.
Adam - at the moment, migrating to BD isn't really an option for us.
We're a ColdFusion (adobe coldfusion) shop, and it'd take some pretty
significant justification (which I don't know that we have at the
moment) for us to consider moving over.
Dave/Nathan -
Hi all,
I've become a convert to cfqueryparam after posting a question about it to this
group several months back. Since then, I've started wondering about the
benefits of it if there are cfif statements in a cfquery block. For
example:
cfquery name=myname datasource=myDB
SELECT email
I had a chat to the support guy at teh hosting company. and
now i have a stack trace for this error. It's apparently
looking for something in a folder that doesnt exist. There
is no E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm
That doesn't matter, actually. The CFDUMP tag is
The CFIF will result in two different SQL statements to be prepared,
instead of one, so there is a slight ramification. Pretty irrelevant
though.
cheers,
barneyb
On 10/23/07, Ben Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I've become a convert to cfqueryparam after posting a question about it
I'd be willing to bet that if the CFIF statement hurts performance it is by
a very small amount.
On 10/23/07, Ben Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I've become a convert to cfqueryparam after posting a question about it to
this group several months back. Since then, I've started
Does the presence of the cfif statement inside the cfquery
block negate all the performance benefits I would have
otherwise gained from using cfqueryparam? If so, I would
guess this is a common issue people run into. Is there a
best practice for handling this kind of situation?
Yes, to
Thanks Dave.That call is coming from the coldspring core files.
THe installation instructions for coldspring say to unpack the zip
file into a folder called /coldspring then run them .
thats what i did. No changes to any of the core files, and i checked
i havent got any of the known
If there is a performance benefit using cfqueryparam, it will still be of
benefit in this case. Also, regardless of the performance, security is still
an issue (SQL injections) and so I would say that continuing to use
cfqueryparam is your best option and practice.
Regards,
Dominic
On
Does anyone know of any tiny url like services either in CF, or that CF can
integrate with?
I have a requirement to create lots of tiny url's programatically.
Neil
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Nope, but with CFHTTP and tinyURL.com I bet you could cobble something together
pretty quick ;-)
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web:
You could make you own. It's not a complicated process. You enter a
url into a DB, give it a unique identifier, which can be anything you
want it to be (int, UUID, some complex schema you design). Then when
someone requests that unique identifier, you re-direct them to that
URL in your DB.
=]
I did consider that, but I don't really want to get into posting through
pages and screen scraping.
N
On 10/24/07, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nope, but with CFHTTP and tinyURL.com I bet you could cobble something
together
pretty quick ;-)
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP Director
Jake,
All of the changes are going to be in the *subversion* repository --
c:\svnrepos -- at the appropriate place in the directory tree.
c:\webdav doesn't know *anything* about svnrepos just because you did
an import. And the push to the remote site only happens when you
actually do it unless
You don't have to go through all that, you can just cflocation them
off to the correct URL
--
Alan Rother
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
Manager, Phoenix Cold Fusion User Group, AZCFUG.org
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I am looking for anyone who has used the cfwebstore software before. I have
a client who is using a very old version (3.1) and needs to update the
shipping rates table.
The UPSRateMonger tag used in that version has been long since abandoned by its
author, there's really no way to update it with
Dan, as I mentioned in my email to you earlier today you can use the
importation tools that are in the tag distribution, but as Mary Jo said
there is more to this than just importing the text files (assuming UPS still
even makes them available, and they are still in a usable format).
I dropped
On 10/24/07, Jonathon Stierman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My plan is to have a generic modify page that I can pass in the DAO, and
then the page would automatically create the correct form fields. I could
probably use Transfer to make this work (there does seem to be a bit of
meta-data stored
I just checked. UPS no longer even provides ASCII data. Its all pdf's
now. They used to provide a form of ASCII that UPSR could clean up and use
as a fixed-length file. No more. You would have to hand-input every rate
item, and there are probably thousands of those.
The days of such
How? is not a good question.
Why? ;-))
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On 10/23/07, Claude_Schnéegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How? is not a good question.
Why? ;-))
Because :P
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and whenever they catch you, they will kill
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