, October 06, 2009 1:58 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
There are currently three of us hosting a total of about 120 sites that
use
CF5. (We have sites that don't use CF and I don't actually administer the
CF
server except to add ODBC data sources
Thanks, Gerald. I'll take a look at it.
-Original Message-
From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:44 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
Dave,
You should take a look @ OBD and/or Railo. I know
There are currently three of us hosting a total of about 120 sites that use
CF5. (We have sites that don't use CF and I don't actually administer the CF
server except to add ODBC data sources and an occasional scheduled task.) It
just isn't practical for us to spend $8,000 every other year on a
I'm surprised
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:24 AM, David Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:
[snip]
After doing some shopping, I've found none of them are
anxious to let me add my own DBs and Scheduled tasks or check logs,
whatever.
So I'll just keep on with CF5 and hoping nothing goes wrong.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
There are currently three of us hosting a total of about 120 sites that
use
CF5. (We have sites that don't use CF and I don't actually administer the
CF
server except to add ODBC data sources and an occasional
In the real world, no one (outside Adobe, perhaps) cares whether you
upgrade or not. Maybe your spoon is in the wrong orifice?
Why are you posting childish insults like this on a public mailing list? It
adds nothing to the conversation and serves absolutely no purpose other than
to be a
Why are you posting childish insults like this on a public mailing list? It
adds nothing to the conversation and serves absolutely no purpose other than
to be a prick.
I thought that my response appropriately matched the statement to
which I responded. I do, however, reserve the right to be a
I felt that the original message, regarding the silver spoons and
the uselessness of upgrades, was rather trollish. The intent of this
thread was to tell people that might want to upgrade that a new
release is available. Many people in the community have been anxiously
awaiting said upgrade.
: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:13 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
I felt that the original message, regarding the silver spoons and
the uselessness of upgrades, was rather trollish. The intent of this
thread was to tell people that might want to upgrade that a new
David Long wrote:
It's my fault. I started it with a sarcastic and inappropriate metaphor and
Dave (the other Dave) responded in kind. I deserved it.
However, that doesn't change my ire at the exclusionist rates Adobe is
asking for their too-frequent upgrades. It gives the impression they
However, that doesn't change my ire at the exclusionist rates Adobe is
asking for their too-frequent upgrades. It gives the impression they are
trying to eliminate those of us who work independently on our own nickel.
I'm not a troll, just a low-end user expressing my opinion.
Well, that, I
, October 06, 2009 1:16 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
David Long wrote:
It's my fault. I started it with a sarcastic and inappropriate metaphor
and
Dave (the other Dave) responded in kind. I deserved it.
However, that doesn't change my ire at the exclusionist
[mailto:d...@northgoods.com]
Sent: 06 October 2009 19:48
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
There are currently three of us hosting a total of about 120 sites that use
CF5. (We have sites that don't use CF and I don't actually administer the CF
server except to add ODBC data
There are currently three of us hosting a total of about 120 sites that use
CF5. (We have sites that don't use CF and I don't actually administer the CF
server except to add ODBC data sources and an occasional scheduled task.) It
just isn't practical for us to spend $8,000 every other year on
David Long wrote:
There are currently three of us hosting a total of about 120 sites that use
CF5. (We have sites that don't use CF and I don't actually administer the CF
server except to add ODBC data sources and an occasional scheduled task.) It
just isn't practical for us to spend $8,000
-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:58 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
There are currently three of us hosting a total of about 120 sites that
use
CF5. (We have sites that don't use CF and I don't actually administer
Have you looked at some of the VPS solutions? Some of them are quite
economical, and give you access to all of those things.
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:24 PM, David Long wrote:
After doing some shopping, I've found none of them are
anxious to let me add my own DBs and Scheduled tasks or check
Seems like this right here would be a good forum to ask for recommendations
of hosts? You might be pleasantly surprised!
-Original Message-
From: David Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com]
Sent: 06 October 2009 20:24
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
You're
It's even cheaper with software maintenance. We simply keep up our
maintenance and get the latest version automatically whenever it comes
out.
Regardless, the cost of CF Enterprise is peanuts compared to other
enterprise software. Ask someone what a full scale Oracle platform
costs, but make
Heard it on the grape vine... Go gitcha some.
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/coldfusionbuilder/
G!
--
Gerald Guido
http://www.myinternetisbroken.com
To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk.
-- Thomas A. Edison
Heard it on the grape vine... Go gitcha some.
Excellent news!
(Though now I have visions of dancing raisins stuck in my head...)
-Leigh
~|
Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them
. Of
course my money would be flowing into their pockets right on without
interruption.
What a racket.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:55 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
Heard
:48
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
If I jumped at every new software version, I would feel like I had adopted
child, no, an orphanage full of children. I'd be buying them food and
clothes and by the time I begin to learn their names, their all gone and a
new batch has
In seven years they've had five releases. They're worse than Microsoft.
-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:w...@hothorse.com]
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:51 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
CF8 was released over 2 years ago. I'd hope you'd
Five?
They've had 6, 7, 8 and now 9 in that time.
And surely Apple are the masters at releasing frequently?
-Original Message-
From: David Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com]
Sent: 05 October 2009 21:47
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
In seven years
And to be fair, 6 and 7 were Macromedia I think.
-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:w...@hothorse.com]
Sent: 05 October 2009 21:51
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
Five?
They've had 6, 7, 8 and now 9 in that time.
And surely Apple are the masters
In seven years they've had five releases. They're worse than Microsoft.
I've been working with CF for over ten years. I started on CF 4, which was
out when I began. Those number just don't add up for me.
Robert B. Harrison
Director of Interactive Services
Austin Williams
125 Kennedy Drive,
.
And surely Apple are the masters at releasing frequently?
-Original Message-
From: David Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com]
Sent: 05 October 2009 21:47
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
In seven years they've had five releases. They're worse than
I assume he's including the .0.1 releases too. Which is cheating really.
-Original Message-
From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com]
Sent: 05 October 2009 22:00
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
In seven years they've had five releases
For some odd reason I look forward to each new release. But that is just me.
FWIIW
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ColdFusion
* 1995 : Allaire Cold Fusion version 1.0
* 1996 : Allaire Cold Fusion version 1.5
* 1996 : Allaire Cold Fusion version 2.0
* 1997-Jun : Allaire Cold Fusion version
:49
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
For some odd reason I look forward to each new release. But that is just me.
FWIIW
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ColdFusion
* 1995 : Allaire Cold Fusion version 1.0
* 1996 : Allaire Cold Fusion version 1.5
* 1996 : Allaire Cold
, October 05, 2009 4:51 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
Nope - not just you. 8 and now 9 especially have had some great new features
that make it well worth while. And if you buy with a subscription, you get
the upgrades over 2(?) years free.
W
-Original Message
00:22
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
Spit out the silver spoons--you're talking to someone who lives in the real
world. My upgrades are paid for out of my design earnings. Unless an upgrade
is going to earn money for me, it's a downgrade.
Dave
-Original Message
:46 PM, David Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:
In seven years they've had five releases. They're worse than Microsoft.
-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:w...@hothorse.com]
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:51 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
: Will Swain [mailto:w...@hothorse.com]
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 4:51 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
Nope - not just you. 8 and now 9 especially have had some great new
features
that make it well worth while. And if you buy with a subscription, you get
, October 05, 2009 4:51 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
Nope - not just you. 8 and now 9 especially have had some great new
features
that make it well worth while. And if you buy with a subscription, you
get
the upgrades over 2(?) years free.
W
Speaking of OpenBD/Railo, we've got the Windows Installer for OpenBD
ready to go. The official release was posted to the OpenBD mailing list,
but you can download the installers from here:
http://openbd.viviotech.net/
Click on installers-obd and select the Windows installer. It should
Spit out the silver spoons--you're talking to someone who lives in the real
world. My upgrades are paid for out of my design earnings. Unless an upgrade
is going to earn money for me, it's a downgrade.
In the real world, no one (outside Adobe, perhaps) cares whether you
upgrade or not. Maybe
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