From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
My two cents
I just think dave is wrong as usual! And he needs help spelling!
:)
cf will
~~~
My two cents
I just think dave is wrong as usual! And he needs help spelling!
:)
...cf will
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> You might ask yourself the question, what am I going to respond to a
> customer saying "Why would I pay for ColdFusion if I can get A, B, or C
> for free?". Only in specific cases you can throw it on ColdFusion
> specific functionality, but even then boxing up against free publicity
> marketed la
Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
Ah i see it in a new light now $3 more per month is nothing compared
to a couple thousand upfront just to start...That would make a
difference..I think somewhere along the lines I lost the original
intent.
e:
> Adam,
>
> Did you check the list I posted earlier? There were several ColdFusion hosts
> under 10 dollars listed on it.
>
> - Calvin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 4:18 PM
>
> majority of them really think that they will have to fork out a few grand
> just too use it, which simply isn't true at all.
>
>
> From: "John Munyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:42 PM
fork out a few grand just
too use it, which simply isn't true at all.
From: "John Munyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
One of the things I have learne
t will cost more.
I could go on but this is probably getting way off topic.
John
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 2/9/2005 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
Adam,
Did you check the list I posted earlier? There
Adam,
Did you check the list I posted earlier? There were several ColdFusion hosts
under 10 dollars listed on it.
- Calvin
-Original Message-
From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 4:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
Yes 3
ite, and it becomes obvious to most.
From: Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 4:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
Yes 3 dollars big deal I agree but some would not. Alternatively what
if I said
Yes 3 dollars big deal I agree but some would not. Alternatively what
if I said CF has 30% premium to host..sounds a bit different. You can
dimish the value of anything, the opposite applies too. My point is
the price of hosting is more expensive for Coldfusion and that does
make a difference to p
ct: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:38:08 -0500, dave wrote:
> lets see my clients host at hostmysite.com
> its $133.55 a yr that = $11.13 a month with free domain name (smarter power
> plan)
> and you cant argue that they are not a good host!
>
> I can a
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:38:08 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> lets see my clients host at hostmysite.com
> its $133.55 a yr that = $11.13 a month with free domain name (smarter power
> plan)
> and you cant argue that they are not a good host!
>
> I can already see the php crowd droolin
"BUT ITS $3 CHEAPER A MONTH TO HOST IT!!"
OMG!!! i can switch to php and retire at the end of the year!! hurrayyy
From: Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 f
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From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
Everyone is throwing around this idea
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From: "Adam Haskell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk"
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
> Everyone is throwing around this idea that Coldfusion is just as
> "free" as PHP...but the fact is that Coldf
You can try this list:
http://www.coldfusion-hosting-plans.com/
- Calvin
-Original Message-
From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
Everyone is throwing around this idea that Coldfusion
d be easier to learn and
> understand? Course ppl are different but there is a reason why cfm is still
> around.
>
>
> From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:52 AM
> To: CF-Ta
esday, February 09, 2005 10:12 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
>
>I don't know that this is 100% correct.
>
>At one point, I was slated to be certified in teaching CF at a MM
>certified training center. Once you arte certified, there should be no
>prob
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-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 9 februari 2005 15:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
I agree
: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
I don't know that this is 100% correct.
At one point, I was slated to be certified in teaching CF at a MM
certified training center. Once you arte certified, there should be no
problems. Now, if you want to become a Certified MM training center
(which is different
ould more readily support those of us who are
>looking to teach and evangelize, we would have more newbies in the CF world.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:18 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: CFMX 7 feature
o: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
ok first of all, i know you all have a hard time with how I write and I
appologize for that. Most of the day I spend talking to my nephews and
neices who range from 2/ 1/2yrs to 12 yrs and thats ho
On Feb 8, 2005, at 5:56 PM, James Holmes wrote:
> Amen. Been there, done that, never again.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2005 1:03 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Development cost vs PHP, JSP.
Amen. Been there, done that, never again.
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2005 1:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Development cost vs PHP, JSP. etc. was; Re: CFMX 7 feature
breakdown
> ... I think that I am going to win a
r to learn and
understand? Course ppl are different but there is a reason why cfm is still
around.
From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
> ... and he says well in art s
> ... and he says well in art school they tell u that
> coldfusion is really expensive.
Art school sounds like a bad place to learn about programming.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our
> ... I think that I am going to win a few more
> PLPCs (Programming Language Pissing Contests).
The only way to win is not to play.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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instruction at our training centers i
ie www.modernmedia.nl
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From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 8 februari 2005 13:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Development cost vs PHP, JSP. etc. was; Re: CFMX 7
feature breakdown
On Feb 8, 2005, at 2:25 AM,
On Feb 8, 2005, at 2:25 AM, Will Tomlinson wrote:
>
> Exactly! And I'll be giving another lecture on shopping carts and how
> they work. What will I use for my examples? CF! Every damn time cause
> there ain't nuthin easier to illustrate how a website works, simply
> and efficiently!
>
> Could
It was tough for me to read as well, but you get used to it after a
while...maybe a few years
:)
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o: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Development cost vs PHP, JSP. etc. was; Re: CFMX 7 feature
breakdown
You're messages are really difficult to read :P
The reason why PHP became so popular is a combination of reasons, like
freeware, C like syntax, MySQL combination, high performance, and the ease
of
> even .net will is pushing cfm over .net in his school and thats were
> it should be as well. One class puts what 20-30 ppl into the world,
> even if they are in graphics they learn something, usually php.
Exactly! And I'll be giving another lecture on shopping carts and how they
work. What
evelopment cost vs PHP, JSP. etc. was; Re: CFMX 7 feature
breakdown
no prob dick :)
man im always in those "discussions" haha, so i stand up 4 what i believe in,
nothing wrong with that.
this same discussion is why dave watts got so mad at me (on the figleaf flash
list), sorry bout
Tuesday, February 08, 2005 5:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Development cost vs PHP, JSP. etc. was; Re: CFMX 7 feature
breakdown
I am reposting this to change the subject line.
On Feb 8, 2005, at 12:21 AM, dave wrote:
> and just to be clear, i'd say a most php users arent building
I am reposting this to change the subject line.
On Feb 8, 2005, at 12:21 AM, dave wrote:
> and just to be clear, i'd say a most php users arent building
> enterprise apps and use shared hosting, so its just as feasable to use
> coldfusion, they just dont know its just as free in that case.
>
On Feb 8, 2005, at 12:21 AM, dave wrote:
> and just to be clear, i'd say a most php users arent building
> enterprise apps and use shared hosting, so its just as feasable to use
> coldfusion, they just dont know its just as free in that case.
> and its amazing to see them all trying to hack a
get that not everyone is building enterprise apps, personally,
i'll take the small ones, in & out in a few days and make more cash without
getting burned out
From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 2
? Voor meer
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From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: maandag 7 februari 2005 18:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
Matt Wisdom wrote:
>
>
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/product_
onday, February 07, 2005 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
Take a look at the feature breakdown in this marketing piece -- every single
feature listed is in the enterprise other than CFML support, OS support, and
basic DB support. If I'm not mistaken, I have CFML support in
> Can anyone explain to me the process for installing and
> setting CFMX 7.0 on a
> multi-machined Weblogic cluster.
The best instructions for CFMX 7 on Weblogic are found here:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/j2ee/cfmx7j2ee_weblogic_deploy.
html
An exploded war is the recommended i
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:35:19 -, Ciliotta, Mario
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My Web Services group has a new set of rules as to what can be installed on
> their machines and what cannot. They are hoping that CFMX 7.0 applications
> running under J2EE are just a simple WAR file that they can pus
Hi,
Can anyone explain to me the process for installing and setting CFMX 7.0 on a
multi-machined Weblogic cluster.
My Web Services group has a new set of rules as to what can be installed on
their machines and what cannot. They are hoping that CFMX 7.0 applications
running under J2EE are just a
Thane,
I would suggest downloading the developer edition and trying it out.
-Joe
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:55:50 -0400, Thane Sherrington
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 01:45 PM 07/02/2005, you wrote:
> >5. New CFCHART engine - Produce high-quality charts and graphs with over
> >200 different mod
At 01:45 PM 07/02/2005, you wrote:
>5. New CFCHART engine - Produce high-quality charts and graphs with over
>200 different modifiable attributes to control animation, colors, labels,
>and more.
>6. Ready-to-use chart styles - Use pre-defined chart styles for
>professional looking charts and gra
S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
>
> That particular feature comparison is a bit misleading because it
> doesn't include all of the features added in CF7, which is odd when
> the same chart lists "CFML Language Support" which no version of CF
> will ever not include. However the chart doesn't make any menti
Hi -
CFMX 7 Standard Edition is packed with new features, including:
1. Printable web content - Dynamically transform existing html content into PDF
or FlashPaper 2 format to produce print-quality output, including headers and
footers, multiple page sizes, orientations, the ability to save output
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:46:09 -0600, Matt Wisdom
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Take a look at the feature breakdown in this marketing
>> piece -- every single
>> feature listed is in the enterprise other than CFML
>> support, OS support, and
>> basic DB support. If I'm not mistaken, I have CFML
>
Matt Wisdom wrote:
>
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/product_editions/
>
> It's quite clear from the breakdown of features that MM has written off the
> "standard" edition market.
I think you should read EVERYTHING on that page, particular the
paragraph about Standa
It seems like there's more new stuff in the standard edition than is
reflected in that chart (like report generation that uses pre-made
report builder files, etc.), as the other discussions show.
That chart could be expanded a bit.
- David
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:46:09 -0600, Matt Wisdom <[EMAIL PR
Tim Buntel hwrote an excellent intro to the new functionality at:
http://sys-con.com/story/?storyid=48103&DE=1
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From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown
...
Matt Wisdom wrote:
> Take a look at the feature breakdown in this marketing piece -- every single
> feature listed is in the enterprise other than CFML support, OS support, and
> basic DB support.
Have you read any of the previous messages on this subject?
Jochem
What in the enterpirse edition is it that you see needed in the
standard edition?
Adam H
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:46:09 -0600, Matt Wisdom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Take a look at the feature breakdown in this marketing piece -- every single
> feature listed is in the enterprise other than CFML
Take a look at the feature breakdown in this marketing piece -- every single
feature listed is in the enterprise other than CFML support, OS support, and
basic DB support. If I'm not mistaken, I have CFML support in MX already. No
need to upgrade the standard version (unless you have a killer need
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