RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-21 Thread Jim Davis
> I need to provide a big client with the practical limits of > ColdFusion 5 running on a Windows 2000 server. The clients > wants to know that the server and the associated MS SQL > Server can handle 2000 simultaneous transactions. Are there > any published stats that would help? Would I ne

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
esday, November 19, 2002 3:48 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: ColdFusion practical limits >> I have a small content management system built with CF5 on a single Win >> 2K server. I load tested it with over 200,000 hits per hour. Normal >> load for the app isn't

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> S. Isaac Dealey wrote: >> Yea, that's a rediculous scenario... >> >> "I have a toothpick and some chewing gum. I'd like you to build the >> Hoover >> dam. Can you guarantee that it will support the weight of 15 >> million gallons >> of water? ... No we don't have a budget for high-school physics

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
t: RE: ColdFusion practical limits > I have a small content management system built with CF5 on a single Win > 2K server. I load tested it with over 200,000 hits per hour. Normal > load for the app isn't more than a few hundred hits on the busiest of > days. > This is not comparab

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> I have a small content management system built with CF5 on a single Win > 2K server. I load tested it with over 200,000 hits per hour. Normal > load for the app isn't more than a few hundred hits on the busiest of > days. > This is not comparable to most sites--it uses a lot of caching which >

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Dave Watts
> > Drop the typical page time to 50ms (easier said than > > done), and you've got a lot more "simultaneous" connections. > > I've always used the term simultaneous in this context to > mean executing at the same time, not executing within the > same second or, as Dave suggested, pooled but n

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Benjamin S. Rogers
> Drop the typical page time to 50ms (easier said than done), > and you've got a lot more "simultaneous" connections. I've always used the term simultaneous in this context to mean executing at the same time, not executing within the same second or, as Dave suggested, pooled but not currently ex

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
S. Isaac Dealey wrote: > Yea, that's a rediculous scenario... > > "I have a toothpick and some chewing gum. I'd like you to build the Hoover > dam. Can you guarantee that it will support the weight of 15 > million gallons > of water? ... No we don't have a budget for high-school physics > text-book

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Mike Brunt
webappermb Web Application Specialists -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion practical limits I tried to tell them that 2000 simultaneous queries was a ridiculous number to consider

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Dave Watts
> > 2000 simultaneous transactions > > Maybe I'm missing something, but it used to be that > Allaire recommended (as a general rule) limiting the > simultaneous transactions to 4 x the number of CPUs. > Of course, that goes back to ColdFusion 4 and early > Pentium IIs, and there were lots of ot

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Samuel Neff
nal Message- > From: Benjamin S. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:17 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: ColdFusion practical limits > > > > 2000 simultaneous transactions > > Maybe I'm missing something, but it use

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Andy Ousterhout
tested against during system testing. Good luck. Andy -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion practical limits I need to provide a big client with the practical limits of ColdFusion 5 runni

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I would hope its death would be quick and painless -- the likely alternative would have been a long and torturous death. > I had a client that wanted to support 1 million+ existing subscribers > using a single CF server, attached to an Access db and a Btrieve Db, > served through a 56K line. > No

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Samuel Neff
isn't possible in more dynamic apps--but I still like these results. BTW, it uses an MS Access back end. :) Sam > -Original Message- > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:12 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: ColdFusion practical

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Benjamin S. Rogers
Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion practical limits I need to provide a big client with the practical limits of ColdFusion 5 running on a Windows 2000 server. The clients wants to know that the se

Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Paris Lundis
://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Jesse Houwing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:00:06 +0100 Subject: Re: ColdFusion practical limits > > If by &

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
;>for failover etc. >> >>that's really a shitload of *simultaneous* hits. >> >>..tony >> >>Tony Weeg >>Senior Web Developer >>Information System Design >>Navtrak, Inc. >>Fleet Management Solutions >>www.navtrak.n

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Jerry Johnson
ltaneous* hits. > >..tony > >Tony Weeg >Senior Web Developer >Information System Design >Navtrak, Inc. >Fleet Management Solutions >www.navtrak.net >410.548.2337 > > >-Original Message- >From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday,

Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Howie Hamlin
ber 19, 2002 1:42 PM Subject: RE: ColdFusion practical limits > another thing to think about is 2000 simultaneous users, is about the > same > traffic that yahoo gets. wouldn't you say? simultaneous means, exact > click at the > exact same moment, to the exact same res

Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Howie Hamlin
Answers embedded below... - Original Message - From: "Gaulin, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: RE: ColdFusion practical limits > Hi Howie > If by "simultaneous transac

Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Jesse Houwing
> If by "simultaneous transactions" you truly mean concurrent hits, then 2000 > is a pretty big number. If you mean "concurrent users" then things relax > quite a bit, since a user is making requests (page hits) at a pretty slow > rate. Just as an example, we had a NT4 IIS static site running with

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
multaneous* hits. > >..tony > >Tony Weeg >Senior Web Developer >Information System Design >Navtrak, Inc. >Fleet Management Solutions >www.navtrak.net >410.548.2337 > > >-Original Message- >From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, Novemb

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Tony Weeg
0.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion practical limits Definitely Load Test and / or Stress Test. Load Testing simulates real world use. Stress Testing bangs the server a

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Gaulin, Mark
e Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion practical limits I need to provide a big client with the practical limits of ColdFusion 5 running on a Windows 2000 server. The clients wants to know that the server and the associated MS S

Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Howie Hamlin
Thanks - sage advice... Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: "Jeffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:22 PM Subject: Re: ColdFusion practical limits > Definitely Load Test and

Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Howie Hamlin
The whitepaper also includes CF5 statistics so this should be a very good start. Thanks for the info! Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:24 PM Subject: RE: ColdF

Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
Definitely Load Test and / or Stress Test. Load Testing simulates real world use. Stress Testing bangs the server all at once. You can load test with the free Microsoft Tool. I believe it is called Web Application Stress Tool. I like to use Web Performance Trainer ( www.webperformancei

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread cameronc
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:12 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: ColdFusion practical limits > > > I need to provide a big client with the practical limits of > ColdFusion 5 running on a Windows 2000 server. The clients > wants to know that the server and the as

ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Howie Hamlin
I need to provide a big client with the practical limits of ColdFusion 5 running on a Windows 2000 server. The clients wants to know that the server and the associated MS SQL Server can handle 2000 simultaneous transactions. Are there any published stats that would help? Would I need to lod ba