The issues with object based content management are for example,
- do you create a totally separate content repository based on
that perticulair language? Or do all languages select content out of the
same bin. So all languages get mixed.
- do all languages have the same account? Or are
to the above table ?
And how would the relationship between the PRID's for example work for
different languages ?
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for multilingual content = not just creating a separate branche for
other languages.
yeah that was the first thing folks suggested when we started discussing
this for farcry. i'm not for that technique (1
And does someone separate content library, file folders, accounts,
workflow, approval queues, template libraries, etc. per language, or do
all languages in the system use the same libraries?
Micha Schopman
Software Engineer
Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 ALAmersfoort
Tel 033-4535377,
Depends on your requirements (or the clients!)
1) Content library, this should be acontent item and assigned either
to multiple languages or a single language (e.g. english and spanish
versions both link to the english download as there is only one...
which we can then separate, or it defaults to
?
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Depends on your requirements (or the clients!)
1) Content library, this should be acontent item and assigned either
article whether it is English or Welsh has the same articleid
???
Any ideas ?
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If you look at the following example website
http://www.allwalesunit.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=5
and click on the Cymraeg link at the top of the page, which loads up the
Welsh
From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sounds to me that a single article can have translations (a standard
way of dealing with content)
I come from
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If for instance you have the following example table containing Press
your table /
tables be set up so a single article can have translations ???
cym/welcyare the ISO codes for Welsh
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1) Content library, this should be acontent item and assigned either
to multiple languages or a single language (e.g. english and spanish
versions both link to the english download as there is only one...
which we can then separate, or it defaults to english PDF if there is
no spanish
Content libraries in my system are not content items. It is a
structurized way of sorting content, under categories and by meta
labels. In my case, each language has it's own Content Library because
the category labels could be multilingual as well. It is a bit hard to
explain, but see it as a
It should never happen, that a spanish website gets english content by
itself because the spanish version is missing. So if the spanish version
of a pdf is missing, throw an error, not get the english version :-) You
might give the client bad information.
here here.
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I think it depends on your business rules (rather than technology)
The point I was trying to get across is that the user should not be
limited to a repository of just that language as there might NOT be
translations of that particular content (brand guidelines, Templates?)
and the content should
Any ideas on what relationship theArticleAction=language parameter is
doing to perform the translation ?
same table, same ID, different language. probably just sets the new language
as the opposite of the current language (as least that's how we did
thai\english sites). it also doesn't appear
Don't you hate site that return you to the root but in the other language?
frankly i've found hardly anybody works thru a website that way. normal
folks come in, set their locale/language (or better yet their
locale/language is silently delivered to them) navigate thru the site. a
good app
I'm currently doing a spec for a new CMS I'm building for my own use.
(I'll think about making it available commercially later).
I'm making it for CFMX, and all the presentation stuff is going to be
in CSS. The CMS will output valid XHTML and because no layout code
wiill be in the output from
Ohh many things i could add here.. but want to finish before nightfall!
1) Have you seen Aura (used by FarCry?) That is CSS and what have you.
2) Output content in XML and then apply a stylesheet to it?
3) Assetmanagement for images and documents and flash etc
4) Search engine
5) EASY type
-
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 September 2004 15:23
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I'm currently doing a spec for a new CMS I'm building for my own use.
(I'll think about making it available commercially later).
I'm making it for CFMX
Piece of cake Mark!Might not get it done tonight.Will Monday do?
Thanks a lot for your comments.Given me food for thought.
Cheers
Mike Kear
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
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which is still lacking in many of the cms systems I have come across is
*decent* support for multilingual content. I believe the latest version
of farcry may support this but I haven't played with it yet.
define decent.
as a first step last year i guess, we made it unicode compliant. the next
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From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm currently doing a spec for a new CMS I'm building for my own use.
(I'll think about making it available commercially later).
I'm
Multilingual, as in frontend support is still quite unique. Only bigger
vendors in the medium, or enterprise level markets have builtin support
for multilingual content = not just creating a separate branche for
other languages.
Creating a system being able to handle multilingual content, on
know :)
Doug
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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:56:27 +1000
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Piece of cake Mark!Might not get it done tonight.Will Monday do?
Thanks a lot for your
My case for creating one is this
I want to understand intimately the workings of one.Every time in
the past i've tried to get into the inner workings of an application,
I've ended up saying to hell with it, I can make one myself.It's
not a lower cost way ot doing it, definitely,but I want
for multilingual content = not just creating a separate branche for
other languages.
yeah that was the first thing folks suggested when we started discussing
this for farcry. i'm not for that technique (1 new language = 1 new site).
we'll see how this plays out w/farcry.
Creating a system
Tuesday's fine :)
Also the other things that are requested are:
1) selective workflow (not everyone needs to follow it)
2) Dated publishing (make live on .. until)
3) Preview of content... in site content..
4) Site Versioningand Content Versioning
5) Content check out and check in
6) Management
Including workflow editors, dynamic authoring rules on department and
role and user level, and versioning of objects? .. I don't know how long
it took you but It took me 3 months work in the evening hours. It is
very difficult.
Micha Schopman
Software Engineer
Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M,
I would suggest you set up a simple frame for the system first, .. if
you want to implement all the mentioned features you may kiss you summer
vacation goodbye.
Micha Schopman
Software Engineer
Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 ALAmersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort
I have seen it in spectra just using Structs but the issue here is
that you should get away from one record = one bit of content..
if you are doing versioning you will have an object that is a content
and then another table with the versions and languages ..
MD
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:15:33
change languages in the cms to see the alternative version of the
content in a different language.
Kola
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From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 September 2004 16:16
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for multilingual
Ideally I'd want to work with a
language aware system such that I can change languages in
the cms to see the alternative version of the content in a
different language.
ShadoMX has multilanguage support at object level, so you only have one
site tree etc and can define multiple translations
How does one manage multilingual content in ShadoMX, I am interested in this specific feature. Do you have screens showing how it works?
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How does one manage multilingual content in ShadoMX, I am interested in
this specific feature. Do you have screens showing how it works?
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I guess they still use seperate branches, according to some of the screenshots shown on the website. One of the screenshots show a treeview, and on top a dropdown box with english in it. My guess is changing this box changes the branch.
Well that's the million dollar question, when I asked and
What features are useful and which a waste of time? Depends on your target market for the solution. The requirements for corporate/enterprise are different to SME and membership based organizations.
Johan
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