Re: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-20 Thread Kwang Suh
Ok, here are my final words to the original poster. >From a web application server perspective, performance is irrelevant. Do not look at performance as a major (or even minor) determining factor in what to pick. Instead, look at scalability. Find out how scalable each of the technologies are.

RE: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-20 Thread Dave Watts
> I'm new to this list but have always been a fan of CF's > elegance and power for years. I am a manager in dev shop > and the classic argument arises when CF comes up: can CF > perform on par with jsp? Php? Asp? .net? Yes, yes, yes, it can perform "on par" with all of the above. Whatever that

RE: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-20 Thread Dave Watts
> > Wherever there were perfomance issues they always related > > back to bad coding or dodgy infrastructure. > > Not always true. CFHTTP, the dodgy locking in 4.0, CFFILE > all were tags that, even if you coded properly, liked to die. > Did I mention CFHTTP? You neglected CFOBJECT/COM, which

RE: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-20 Thread Dave Watts
> He was asking for performance. And those technologies are > mostly slow. Write an ecommerce site in assembly. It'll > probably scream. But it'll take forever to write, and > writing scalability features into it will be a major > undertaking. Unless you're also going to write all your other co

Re: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-20 Thread Kwang Suh
ED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: RE: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question > > He was asking for performance. And those technologies are mostly slow. > > Write an ecommerce site in assembly. > > He was a

RE: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-20 Thread Cameron Childress
t your viewpoint. -Cameron - Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc. --- cell: 678-637-5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:07 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subje

Re: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-20 Thread Kwang Suh
> Um, wow -- fast and slow at what? Development? Compilation? Execution? > Performance under load? Math calculations? etc etc? > > CFMX, JSP compile to java byte code and get executed by a JVM. > PHP, ASP compiles to pseudocode and is run by a C++ interpreter. > ASP.NET is compiled to .NET byte

Re: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-20 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
- Original Message - From: "Kwang Suh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question > JSP: Slow > CFMX: Slow > PHP: Fast > ASP: Very S

Re: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-19 Thread John Quarto-vonTivadar
ouch! - Original Message - From: "Rich Z" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:25 PM Subject: RE: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question > Thanks for the insight. This is really helpful

RE: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-19 Thread Rich Z
Message- From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question Rich this is a question that has been aired in various forms many times. I can give you my experience having used CF seriously since

Re: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-19 Thread Kwang Suh
> Wherever there were perfomance issues they always related back to bad coding or dodgy infrastructure. Not always true. CFHTTP, the dodgy locking in 4.0, CFFILE all were tags that, even if you coded properly, liked to die. Did I mention CFHTTP? ~~~

Re: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-19 Thread Kwang Suh
users, it still takes 100ms. Other technologies (cough classic ASP, PHP cough) fall flat and die at such high volumes. - Original Message - From: "Rich Z" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:14 PM Subject:

RE: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-19 Thread Mike Brunt
Rich this is a question that has been aired in various forms many times. I can give you my experience having used CF seriously since version 1.54 and having worked for Allaire and MM as a field based Consultant (read Troubleshooter). My view is very much from a CF angle. >From a coding standp

Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question

2003-06-19 Thread Rich Z
Hello all: I'm new to this list but have always been a fan of CF's elegance and power for years. I am a manager in dev shop and the classic argument arises when CF comes up: can CF perform on par with jsp? Php? Asp? .net? Is there anything out there in terms of a comparative study of some sort