RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-02-01 Thread Dave Watts
Bah... do I really sound that defensive? I was just having fun at your expense. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified Partners http://training.figleaf.com/ WebManiacs 2008: the ultimate conference for CF/Flex/AIR

RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Will Swain
geoff wrote: It's unnecessary to voice your obviously negative opinion of a product without any sort of request to do so. If you feel the need to vent, why not vent on the farcry-dev forum where you might let the developers of that product knowwhat you found so objectionable -- we'd love

RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Scott Stewart
Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) -Original Message- From: Geoff Bowers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Paperthin's Commonspot Rob, On 31/01

Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Matthew Williams
For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of support issues). Actually, that's not a completely accurate statement. The Daemonites have released FarCry to the public under an open source

RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Scott Stewart
ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) -Original Message- From: Matthew Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Paperthin's Commonspot For my needs FarCry

Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Geoff Bowers
On 01/02/2008, Matthew Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, will it meet your requirements the same way as CommonSpot? Depends on your needs. My understanding of CommonSpot is that it makes importing existing content easy (at least according the docs). You can use a WYSIWIG editor to

Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Scott Stewart wrote: For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of support issues). Didn't they hire you to provide the support? What exactly is your role if it isn't that? Jochem

Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Geoff Bowers
On 01/02/2008, Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of support issues). It's a strange mentality given that the standard corporate EULA offers

RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Scott Stewart
: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Paperthin's Commonspot Scott Stewart wrote: For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of support issues). Didn't they hire you

Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Matthew Williams
See, now, I learn something new every day. I've not looked into importing data since the 2.x days as most of my new sites have been scratch built. I did try pushing FarCry for a huge EPA implementation, but they're dead set on CommonSpot. One of the areas they claimed was lacking was Word/DB

Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Matthew Williams
So long as you charge Enterprise prices, you should be fine ;). I still don't get that mentality, but if it's not expensive, then it must not be any good! Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog ~| Adobe®

Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Qasim Rasheed
Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) -Original Message- From: Matthew Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Paperthin's Commonspot For my needs FarCry is out of the question because

RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread John Mason
-Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Paperthin's Commonspot For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off

RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Dave Watts
FarCry is open source but you will see lots of companies like Figleaf and others fully supporting it down to training, etc. Just to clarify, we don't do any work with FarCry currently. We do quite a bit of work with CommonSpot, though. When we evaluated CMSs, we found CommonSpot to be the best

RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Nate Willard
CommonSpot spot is really expensive... What do you get from CommonSpot that FarCry does not provide for free? Other than the hosted solution option, which is great... N --- Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FarCry is open source but you will see lots of companies like Figleaf and

RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Dale Fraser
://learncf.com -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 12:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Paperthin's Commonspot FarCry is open source but you will see lots of companies like Figleaf and others fully supporting it down to training, etc

Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Geoff Bowers
On 01/02/2008, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clarify, we don't do any work with FarCry currently. We do quite a bit of work with CommonSpot, though. When we evaluated CMSs, we found CommonSpot to be the best match with our client base. That's not meant as a criticism of FarCry,

Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-30 Thread Scott Stewart
Does anyone have any experience with CommonSpot? Pros? Cons? We’re considering encapsulating our entire website in a CMS. And CommonSpot has come up Obvious advantage: written in ColdFusion.. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC.

RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-30 Thread Steve LaBadie
-Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Paperthin's Commonspot Does anyone have any experience with CommonSpot? Pros? Cons? We're considering encapsulating our entire website in a CMS

RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-30 Thread Mark Kruger
Scott, The pro is that it's well supported by a reputable company and it's full featured. The con Expensive. -mark -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Paperthin's Commonspot Does anyone

RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-30 Thread Dave Watts
Does anyone have any experience with CommonSpot? We work extensively with it here at Fig Leaf. We've worked with some very large clients, such as National Park Service and Voice of America, using CommonSpot: http://www.figleaf.com/Showcase/CMS.cfm We've worked with it so much, we developed

Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-30 Thread RobG
Scott Stewart wrote: Does anyone have any experience with CommonSpot? Pros? Cons? I had started to work with it for a contract that ended up only lasting a week due to poor communication. I spent a great deal of time reading up on the various developer guides. It looks like

Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-30 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
The thing I didn't like about it was that they encrypt all the files so you can't really see or modify it. There might be an option to get an unencrypted version, but I don't really know, I never explored it. I'm working with BeSavvy right now and it's the same way - there is an unencrypted

Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-30 Thread Geoff Bowers
Rob, On 31/01/2008, RobG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like it's pretty easy to develop for... it's a million times better than FarCry (don't EVEN get me started on that thing, and yeah I know a lot of people like it). My experience of Commonspot compared to other products has not been as

Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-30 Thread RobG
Geoff Bowers wrote: My experience of Commonspot compared to other products has not been as delightful as yours. And there are plenty of people who have a diametrically opposed view to yours on the merits of FarCry as a solution. I dunno if I'd call my experience with it delightful but given

Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-30 Thread Geoff Bowers
On 31/01/2008, RobG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought about venting about it on the Farcry list, but figured I would be booted in no time for not being a member of the choir. Not wanting to burn bridges, I chose not to. Constructive criticism is always gratefully received. As for venting