Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Adrocknaphobia
cfplug Why not give Adobe ColdFusion Builder a spin? It has built-in support for CF 7 - 9. As well as inline support for HTML, CSS, JS and SQL. http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/coldfusionbuilder/ /cfplug -Adam On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:35 PM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Brandon
I tried CFBuilder for several months and finally got fed up with glitchy code-folding. Plus, I don't want to get too used to a tool that's going to end up costing an arm and a leg. Eclipse + plugins seems to handle everything I need, without beta-testing bugs. -Brandon On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Brandon, What would you consider an arm and a leg? We originally started work on ColdFusion Builder as a feature of ColdFusion 9. In fact it was a the highest requested feature for CF9 despite the existence of CFEclipse, Dreamweaver and HomeSite. But as our vision for a comprehensive ColdFusion

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Brandon
Adam, Thanks for the feedback. My comment was based mostly on heresy and existing Adobe product costs. I have not seen any official pricing yet. Many of the numbers circulating around were near the $300 mark. I understand that it's not meant to be a revenue builder, but I assume that Adobe

RE: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Rick Faircloth
10, 2010 12:25 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: IDE for coldfusion 9 Brandon, What would you consider an arm and a leg? We originally started work on ColdFusion Builder as a feature of ColdFusion 9. In fact it was a the highest requested feature for CF9 despite the existence of CFEclipse, Dreamweaver

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Judah McAuley
I suspect that the point is more that the pricing on CFB is, as of yet, unknown, so it becomes a question of whether you want to spend a lot of time becoming familiar with a product which will likely be a commercial product (with unknown pricing) or with a tool that you know will continue to be

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Brandon
that to honor that label, Adobe would have to offer it for $50 or less, if not free. -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:adrocknapho...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:25 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: IDE for coldfusion 9 Brandon, What would you consider

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Gerald Guido
Honestly, there is no reason to *not* to think that it will not cost an appendage or two. Adobe products are not cheap. Flex builder is what? $250-300. CFStudio (may it rest in peace) used to cost $300 or $400 and given the recent 33% increase in the cost of ACF Enterprise there is no reason to

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Dave Watts
Honestly, there is no reason to *not* to think that it will not cost an appendage or two. Adobe products are not cheap. Flex builder is what? $250-300. CFStudio (may it rest in peace) used to cost $300 or $400 and given the recent 33% increase in the cost of ACF Enterprise there is no reason

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Gerald, A recent increase in Enterprise edition by 33% is news to me. Are you referring to the 25% increase of ColdFusion 8 Enterprise from previous versions? The price for ColdFusion 9 has not gone up at all and the rise in cost of ColdFusion 8 was the first in 8 years and we were able to

RE: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Rick Faircloth
I certainly don't see CFB as worth any more than $50 since it doesn't seem to provide anything different than CFEclipse, which is still free. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:24 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: IDE

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Gerald Guido
You say appendage, I say a few hours of billable work. That's really the question people should be asking about this - will it save enough time to be worth paying for? The definition of such depends on who is holding the purse strings. I have no problem with nutting up for a good editor. Hell, I

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Adrocknaphobia
If that were the case, I would agree with you. But the fact is, ColdFusion Builder does _a lot_ more than CFEclipse. I won't get into a marketing pitch, but I'd invite you to take a closer look. Of course, if there is anything you think we could add to make it worth more than $50, then I'd love

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Wil Genovese
Adam, 1. Mylyn Integration.Yes it's that important http://cfbugs.adobe.com/bugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html#bugId=77480 2. Proper code folding - See cfeclipse or even Homesite to know what I mean. (here's a few items)

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Scott Brady
I installed the latest version, and I'm pretty unimpressed: 1) I no longer have tag insight (i.e., when I start to type cfloop , I no longer get a list of possible attributes). I've checked every setting I can find, and can't figure out why. 2) Now, when I paste in a line of code (a complete

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Thanks for the input Wil. I agree with you on 1, 2 and 5. These were all features that we researched and discussed throughout the development of Bolt. Unfortunately, other features were rated a higher priority so we had to push these into Storm (CB2). We knew from the beginning that there would

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread denstar
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Scott Brady wrote: I installed the latest version, and I'm pretty unimpressed: 1)  I no longer have tag insight (i.e., when I start to type cfloop , I no longer get a list of possible attributes). I've checked every setting I can find, and can't figure out

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Judah McAuley
I think that there is also a difference between requires a CF server and requires Adobe Coldfusion 9. I appreciate some of the integration with CF9. However, I also still do work on CF8 and an increasing amount on Railo. Railo adoption seems to be on the uptick and that is something to consider.

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Adrocknaphobia
ColdFusion Builder supports CF 7, 8 and 9 out of the box. ColdFusion 9 is definitely not required. -Adam On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: I think that there is also a difference between requires a CF server and requires Adobe Coldfusion 9. I

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Scott Brady
Well, the new preview version fixed the tab issue, but I still don't have have tag insight. I'll check out the list. Thanks! Scott On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:56 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: 1)  I no longer have tag insight (i.e., when I start to type cfloop , I no longer get a

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Roger Austin
Adrocknaphobia wrote: Brandon, What would you consider an arm and a leg? We originally started work on ColdFusion Builder as a feature of ColdFusion 9. In fact it was a the highest requested feature for CF9 despite the existence of CFEclipse, Dreamweaver and HomeSite. But as our vision

RE: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-10 Thread Eric Roberts
I find the error checker slows it down big time... Eric -Original Message- From: Wil Genovese [mailto:jugg...@visi.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:18 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: IDE for coldfusion 9 Adam, 1. Mylyn Integration.Yes it's that important http

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-09 Thread Shannon Peevey
i use the current cfeclipse w cf9 and have no issues speeves On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:13 PM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me if there is a new CFEclipse plugin for Coldfusion 9? ~|

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-09 Thread Gerald Guido
Yes the latest version of CFE has a CF 9 dictionary. i.e. It supports CF9 syntax. G! On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:13 PM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me if there is a new CFEclipse plugin for Coldfusion 9?

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-09 Thread Qing Xia
Can anyone tell me if there is a new CFEclipse plugin for Coldfusion 9? I am using CFEclipse plugin version 1.3.4.200906240705, which seems to be the latest version. I noticed certain new CF9 tags, such as CFIMAP, are not recognized.

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-09 Thread Barney Boisvert
You have to specify which version of CF you're using on your project, and if you upgraded, you'll still be set on CF8. Not sure what the default is, but it could well be CF8 as well, since CF9 is still lower adoption. cheers, barneyb On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Qing Xia

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-09 Thread Qing Xia
You have to specify which version of CF you're using on your project, and if you upgraded, you'll still be set on CF8. Not sure what the default is, but it could well be CF8 as well, since CF9 is still lower adoption. Oh yeah, you are right Barney. My dictionary view is set to CF8.

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-09 Thread Barney Boisvert
The default is in the global prefs (Windows Preferences), and each project has it's own setting the project properties. cheers, barneyb On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Qing Xia txiasum...@gmail.com wrote: You have to specify which version of CF you're using on your project, and if you

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-09 Thread Qing Xia
Well, well, the lesson is never to assume. My version of CFEclipse was *NOT* the latest. The latest is 1.3.5.201002010103. Once I upgraded my CFEclilpse plugin, I am defaulted to the CF9 dictionary. BTW, the dropdown at the top of Dictionary View lets you select which version of the dictionary

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-09 Thread Qing Xia
The default is in the global prefs (Windows Preferences), and each project has it's own setting the project properties. Neat, thanks! One more reason to like CFEclipse! [?] ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with

Re: IDE for coldfusion 9

2010-02-09 Thread fun and learning
Yes the latest version of CFE has a CF 9 dictionary. i.e. It supports CF9 syntax. G! On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:13 PM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me if there is a new CFEclipse plugin for Coldfusion 9? Hi All, Thanks a lot for the information. I