Bah... do I really sound that defensive?
I was just having fun at your expense.
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geoff wrote:
It's unnecessary to voice your obviously negative opinion of a product
without any sort of request to do so. If you feel the need to vent, why
not vent on the farcry-dev forum where you might let the developers of that
product knowwhat you found so objectionable -- we'd love
Stewart
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-Original Message-
From: Geoff Bowers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Paperthin's Commonspot
Rob,
On 31/01
For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most
federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of
support issues).
Actually, that's not a completely accurate statement. The Daemonites have
released FarCry to the public under an open source
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-Original Message-
From: Matthew Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Paperthin's Commonspot
For my needs FarCry
On 01/02/2008, Matthew Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now, will it meet your requirements the same way as CommonSpot? Depends on
your needs. My understanding of CommonSpot is that it makes importing
existing content easy (at least according the docs). You can use a WYSIWIG
editor to
Scott Stewart wrote:
For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most
federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of
support issues).
Didn't they hire you to provide the support? What exactly is your role
if it isn't that?
Jochem
On 01/02/2008, Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most
federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of
support issues).
It's a strange mentality given that the standard corporate EULA offers
: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Paperthin's Commonspot
Scott Stewart wrote:
For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most
federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because
of
support issues).
Didn't they hire you
See, now, I learn something new every day. I've not looked into importing data
since the 2.x days as most of my new sites have been scratch built. I did try
pushing FarCry for a huge EPA implementation, but they're dead set on
CommonSpot. One of the areas they claimed was lacking was Word/DB
So long as you charge Enterprise prices, you should be fine ;). I still don't
get that mentality, but if it's not expensive, then it must not be any good!
Matthew Williams
Geodesic GraFX
www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog
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-Original Message-
From: Matthew Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Paperthin's Commonspot
For my needs FarCry is out of the question because
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Paperthin's Commonspot
For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most
federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off
FarCry is open source but you will see lots of companies like
Figleaf and others fully supporting it down to training, etc.
Just to clarify, we don't do any work with FarCry currently. We do quite a
bit of work with CommonSpot, though. When we evaluated CMSs, we found
CommonSpot to be the best
CommonSpot spot is really expensive... What do you get
from CommonSpot that FarCry does not provide for free?
Other than the hosted solution option, which is
great...
N
--- Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FarCry is open source but you will see lots of
companies like
Figleaf and
://learncf.com
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 12:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Paperthin's Commonspot
FarCry is open source but you will see lots of companies like
Figleaf and others fully supporting it down to training, etc
On 01/02/2008, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to clarify, we don't do any work with FarCry currently. We do quite a
bit of work with CommonSpot, though. When we evaluated CMSs, we found
CommonSpot to be the best match with our client base. That's not meant as a
criticism of FarCry,
We considered it, but the cost of ownership was high. Training sessions
are expensive, you have to go up by Boston for 3 days for beginner
training. If you want advanced training it's a different 3 day session
(more money). If they come to your office/campus it's very very
expensive. We went with
Scott,
The pro is that it's well supported by a reputable company and it's full
featured. The con Expensive.
-mark
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Paperthin's Commonspot
Does anyone
Does anyone have any experience with CommonSpot?
We work extensively with it here at Fig Leaf. We've worked with some very
large clients, such as National Park Service and Voice of America, using
CommonSpot:
http://www.figleaf.com/Showcase/CMS.cfm
We've worked with it so much, we developed
Scott Stewart wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with CommonSpot?
Pros?
Cons?
I had started to work with it for a contract that ended up only lasting
a week due to poor communication. I spent a great deal of time reading
up on the various developer guides.
It looks like
The thing I didn't like about it was that they encrypt all the files so
you can't really see or modify it. There might be an option to get an
unencrypted version, but I don't really know, I never explored it.
I'm working with BeSavvy right now and it's the same way - there is an
unencrypted
Rob,
On 31/01/2008, RobG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It looks like it's pretty easy to develop for... it's a million times
better than FarCry (don't EVEN get me started on that thing, and yeah I
know a lot of people like it).
My experience of Commonspot compared to other products has not been as
Geoff Bowers wrote:
My experience of Commonspot compared to other products has not been as
delightful as yours. And there are plenty of people who have a
diametrically opposed view to yours on the merits of FarCry as a
solution.
I dunno if I'd call my experience with it delightful but given
On 31/01/2008, RobG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought about venting about it on the Farcry list, but figured I would
be booted in no time for not being a member of the choir. Not wanting
to burn bridges, I chose not to.
Constructive criticism is always gratefully received.
As for venting
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