gt; From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:43 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: What is a portal? Re: (Admin) Behavior
>
>
> Do I detect a bias here Matt?? Don't you write articles for
Evolt.org?
> Good ones, I'm sure, but st
Pompous asshole.
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From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior
> > Which he's already done when he applied for the co
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> From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:01 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: What is a portal? Re: (Admin) Behavior
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> I dont think you can have a cle
F-Talk
> Subject: Re: What is a portal? Re: (Admin) Behavior
>
> Hm, so having a list of articles by people on FA doesn't apply here?
Maybe
> its that people have to submit the articles to an editor first. Fancy
> that. I don't see anything in these sites that we're no
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> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: What is a portal? Re: (Admin) Behavior
>
> > I guess our definitions differ. I don't really see those as
developer
> > portals. I personally think developer portals look more like what
you
&
> Could there be a remote possibility that Judith meant Macromedia would
be
> interested in CONSIDERING Michael for the job if they said they were
> willing
> to move? Usually, if a company says a position must be filled at a
> specific
> location, it disqualifies people who are not willing to mo
as is.
Douglas Brown
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From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: What is a portal? Re: (Admin) Behavior
> Hm, so having a list o
orate site.
Joe
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: What is a portal? Re: (Admin) Behavior
Take a look at the portals I referenced in my first email. I have
included their URLs for convenie
rticles and
> a code sharing library.
>
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Din
gt; Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: What is a portal? Re: (Admin) Behavior
>
> > I guess our definitions differ. I don't really see those as
developer
> > portals. I personally think developer portals look more like what
you
> > would fi
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 4:32 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior
>
>
> > Which he's already done when he applied for the community manager
> > position.
> &
> I guess our definitions differ. I don't really see those as developer
> portals. I personally think developer portals look more like what you
> would find at DevX, CNet, Microsoft, and Macromedia. These portals offer
> developers articles, tips, code, discussion groups, etc.
So the articles on t
> Which he's already done when he applied for the community manager
> position.
> They were interested only if we moved to San Francisco -- which we're
not
> willing to do. So it didn't work out.
>
I thought it was pretty clear in the job description that the position
was in San Francisco. Howeve
Why not take something that you love in CF, think about anything special about it,
problems, etc. and write up an explanation of it. That would be very useful and not
lock you into a specific topic. For example, I love RegEx, CFSCRIPT and functions to
name just a few things. My writings on thes
> Punishment fitting the crime. And a FAQ helps everyone.
Michael,
I talked to you about something like the FAQ system (combined with a
category system) for the archives a little while ago, but I think everything
got lost in all the e-mails. In any case, I'd be happy to write up some
FAQ
Punishment fitting the crime. And a FAQ helps everyone.
> >If the behavior of flaming simple, common
> >or any other question continues, I'm going
> >to be forced to assign homework to the flamer.
>
> Better than homework, how about a "flame jar"??? If the community decides
> that the person h
Matt,
You said, "It awfully presumptuous for people who to suggest who Macromedia
should
hire. Further, it seems ridiculous to ask for a job with Macromedia like
was just done. Macromedia already has an evangelist (Ben Forta) and a
community manager (Vernon Viehe). If you don't like them or what
ssage -
From: "Ryan Kime" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:56 PM
Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior
> >If the behavior of flaming simple, common
> >or any other question continues, I'm going
> >to
>If the behavior of flaming simple, common
>or any other question continues, I'm going
>to be forced to assign homework to the flamer.
Better than homework, how about a "flame jar"??? If the community decides
that the person has sent a flame, then that person should (on good faith)
donate $1 th
> >From my humble perspective, the CF-Talk List is THE source for
> information
> regarding CF issues, outside of the manuals, and a few books out
there.
> As
> for being the number one community, well, You're here, so is Dave, and
> Michael, and Ben,and a ton of others ranging from novice to God
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> Absolutely agreed Shawn...Anyone who has time to help make this community
> better, should do so. I myself am designing a web interface for employers
and
> people hunting for work to be able to post via t
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Absolutely agreed Shawn...Anyone who has time to help make this community
better, should do so. I myself am designing a web interface for employers
and
people hunting for work to be able to post
Grover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:19 PM
Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior
> Hate to say it Matt, but I think you picked a losing battle here.
>
> From my humble perspective, the CF-Talk List is THE source fo
xt does not convey the facial
features, or tone of voice that sometimes need to be seen to understand the
meaning.
My thoughts
Shawn Grover
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior
T
@albemarle.orcc:
g> Subject: RE: (Admin) Behav
o inane. So please take a deep breath, meditate a
few minutes and delete all references to this thread- no matter how "witty"
you think a response may be.
Enough already.
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Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:40 PM
To: CF
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:18 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior
> >
> > I didn&#
reath, meditate a
few minutes and delete all references to this thread- no matter how "witty"
you think a response may be.
Enough already.
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior
T
gt;
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Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior
> I've got an idea - I'd be happy to write a small app that would let us
> vote on people who flame. If a particular person gets enough votes,
> then Michael D
At 11:39 AM 7/25/02 -0700, Matt Liotta wrote:
>There are plenty of other people contributing to the ColdFusion
>community everyday and have been for quite some time. I don't see any of
>them asking jokingly or not for Macromedia to pay them. The whole point
>of contributing to the community is to
I posted this as an admin message to showcase a problem and a solution to it. I
understand if some took offense at what I said and I'm OK with that. Please lets stop
the flames and the like.
Thanks
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I've got an idea - I'd be happy to write a small app that would let us
vote on people who flame. If a particular person gets enough votes,
then Michael D. is notified that the list is tired of this person. Then
he can deal with the person any way that he wants - remove him,
reprimand, torture, e
> President & CEO
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:38 AM
iotta
President & CEO
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> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:18 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re:
ass
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior
It awfully presumptuous for people who to suggest who Macromedia should
hire. Further, it seems ridiculous to ask for a job with
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From: "Joe Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior
> What is up this dude MATT? is
What is up this dude MATT? is it just me or do other ppl also get
pissed by this dude's comments?
Joe
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From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:56 PM
Subject
: Come on ... 'one list under god' just might be a problem ...
How about "one list, under root..."?
(Root, God. What's the difference?)
--Ben Doom
Programmer & General Lackey
Moonbow Software
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> It awfully presumptuous for people who to suggest who Macromedia should
> hire. Further, it seems ridiculous to ask for a job with Macromedia like
> was just done. Macromedia already has an evangelist (Ben
t; > From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:38 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior
> >
> > At 01:23 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> > >If the behavior of flaming simple, common or any
All right! The first flame of the e-mail about not flaming ;-)
Shawn McKee
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior
It awfully presumptuous for people who to suggest who Macromedia
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> -Original Message-
> From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior
>
> At 01:23 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> >If the behavior of flaming
om: "Dave Hannum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior
>
>
> > What's so ludicrous about flaming less experienced programmers, is that
> many
> >
Come on ... 'one list under god' just might be a problem ...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Re: (Admin) Behavior
lol that opened a can of worms :)
Now all the atheists ar
Michael,
Thanks a bunch for your work on this. Just the other day, I was wondering
whether you get paid for this, and thought, "Well, of course he's paid.
It's way too much work to do unpaid." Now that I know the truth, I don't
know what to say...hats off. Thank you so much for a resource whic
ot;Marlon Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior
> Allright, everybody look to the person on their left. Now look to the
> person on your right
>
> and repeat
>
&
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Senior Database Developer
Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
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From: "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002
Allright, everybody look to the person on their left. Now look to the
person on your right
and repeat
*Kumbaya* *Kumbaya* my Lord, *kumbaya* *Kumbaya* my Lord, *kumbaya*
*Kumbaya* my Lord, *kumbaya*
Oh Lord *kumbaya* Someone's crying my Lord, *kumbaya* Someone's crying
my Lord
:)
Thane
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From: "Dave Hannum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior
> What's so ludicrous about flaming less experienced program
At 01:23 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>If the behavior of flaming simple, common or any other question continues,
>I'm going to be forced to assign homework to the flamer.
>"If your so good at this that you can bash someone else for asking the
>question, then you have to write up a
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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior
Here here ;) I don't like when people get flamed because they haven't
encountered a problem before and decide its better to have a little help
t
> Here here ;) I don't like when people get flamed because they haven't
> encountered a problem before and decide its better to have a little help
> then to try to figure it out themselves.
Well, the fault rests in a few places. Some people don't want to read the docs. Some
try and miss it. Some
You did not ask Michael but forgive me blurting anyway, 100% right. It
would be a very very sad day if we feel inhibited from asking questions
because we will be derided. And those who deride "simple" questions need to
go back to school, the school of mutual respect! As always thank you for
your
Here here ;) I don't like when people get flamed because they haven't
encountered a problem before and decide its better to have a little help
then to try to figure it out themselves.
hehe Yea MM pay Mikey for hosting, he's helped us out more then anything MM
ever provides for us developers.
Bil
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