I've been learning a bit of java lately, and in that world, the typical tool
for this I think would be Ant, which is pretty slick.
XML config files define task specifics, including dependencies (don't deploy
until unit tests have run, for example), then you just tell it a task to
run, either from
>Then copy from this directory to the actual one overwriting files. You could
>write a batch file to do this or even a CF script.
Hi again,
we're using Tortoise along with CFEclipse's CVS functionality...
A direct export to a specific directory is possible. But copying half of your
time from o
Tag!
On my team of about 10 developers, 4 of us have stepped out of the dark ages
and are using CVS, actually only 2 of us use it fully, the other 2 are
forced into it :) We use CVSNT also along with Tortoise. At the moment I
manually export and copy to the 'staging' and production environments
>Hmm, I thought I'd blogged a fair bit about it over the years... Maybe
>not. Can you be a bit more specific about what you'd like to see?
>--
>Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/
>Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/
Hi all, hi Sean,
as some kind of newbie to your blog (reading for about two m
> Quick question. If you use VSS with Dreamweaver, does that
> mean you do not need to purchase VSS client licenses for each
> developer?
I'm pretty sure you still need them.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-author
" server all with VSS. Almost all the devs run Dreamweaver so
> integrating VSS has been quite easy...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kevin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:14 AM
> To: CF-Talk
Mr. Dent, do you know how much damage that bulldozer would suffer if I
just let it roll straight over you?
-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
Ever thought of going into advertising?
-Original Message-
From: RADEMAKERS Tanguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 15 April 2005 5:36
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
with a sign on the door that says "beware of the leopard"?
with a sign on the door that says "beware of the leopard"?
see? i know my classics.
>-Original Message-
>From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:47 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: What's your setup for multiple d
A picture of the Badger, and maybe a diagram of it's digestive system
that points out the skeletons of the Allaire employees it devoured
when they took the Macromedians too seriously about the whiteboard...
;)
J
On 4/14/05, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/14/05, Adrocknaphobia <[
On 4/14/05, Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any chance you could write up a blog entry or something on the
> development setup at MM? Maybe go into a little more detail on the
> technical setup? You've got me intrigued.
Hmm, I thought I'd blogged a fair bit about it over the years... M
Sean,
Any chance you could write up a blog entry or something on the
development setup at MM? Maybe go into a little more detail on the
technical setup? You've got me intrigued.
-Adam
On 4/14/05, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/14/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > D
Is it a Linux-based angry badger?
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company
On 4/14/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Guarded by an angry badger.
.in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet...
~|
Discover C
On 4/14/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't sweat it. We've actually taken your suggestion to heart and we're
> putting up a project whiteboard that's labeled "Hey bob". People can write
> on it what they're working on and see what others are working on. We're also
> going to put it
st".
>
> If you continuously find yourself having problems with
> multiple developers overwriting each other's changes, then
> you need to apply some structure before you can apply some software.
>
> my apologies for any misunderstanding.
>
> /t
>
> >
y" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk"
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:36 AM
Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
There was mention in this thread (don't know if
> it was you, don't keep messages) about three developers and fifty
>
On 4/14/05, RADEMAKERS Tanguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What i was trying to explain is that source control isn't a replacement
> for team communications.
We're in complete agreement on that!
> If you often find yourself fighting for control
> of the same file with one or more other developers
e software.
my apologies for any misunderstanding.
/t
>-Original Message-
>From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 7:54 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: What's your setup for multiple developers
>
>On 4/14/05, RADEMAKERS Tanguy <[
On 4/14/05, RADEMAKERS Tanguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >That's basically how we've worked except for the source
> >control. The "hey bob" part just doesn't work though.
>
> How many developers do you have? Tens? Hundreds?
>
> a) If you can't coordinate work between multiple developers then yo
what file I'm working on, but
Dreamweaver doesn't reveal the full file path like CF Studio does.
Just another 2 cents.
- Calvin
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: What's your setup
Granted - it's a hack.
but it's still better than nothing.
>-Original Message-
>From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:39 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: What's your setup for multiple developers
>As noted, this
re working
parts in today's web apps) but i hope you find it interesting:
http://durak.org/cvswebsites/
Regards,
/t
>-Original Message-
>From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:36 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: What's your s
Using VSS I set up user subdirectories that I check the files out into.
mydevserver/john would have my current work plus everything else
checked into. I think it's set up as a shadow folder. When I checked
it in it would go to mydevserver/ and everyone could see the changes.
Once I check out a fil
On 4/13/05, RADEMAKERS Tanguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - set up one dev server
> - set up one source control server
> - check the code from the source control server out onto the development
> server.
> - everyone works on the same dev server. yes, you will need to take care
> that two people d
> In a race car, you need a vehicle that has the right balance
> of speed/power and maneuverability for your style of driving.
>
> In an IDE, you need an application with the right balance of
> features and speed/efficiency for your style of development.
>
> I think the analogy is pretty sound.
> -Original Message-
> From: RADEMAKERS Tanguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
>
> Carefully?
>
> All joking aside:
>
> - set up one de
for your style of development.
I think the analogy is pretty sound.
--Ferg
-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
I would disagree with this. IDEs h
> I would disagree with this. IDEs have a number of measurable
> properties, such as speed to startup, speed to open a file,
> speed to save a file, features or lack of features, such as
> built in diff, integration with source control or code trust
> to name a few.
Well, sure, I mean everythi
-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
> An IDE can make as much difference in a programmer as a
> better car can make for a racer. I HATE that I just used a
> racing analo
t
>-Original Message-
>From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:22 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
>
>Ugh. Now it's devolved. So to get back on topic:
>
>How can I safely work in a
On 4/13/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Every developer has Developer Edition locally and a full
> > version of the site.
> Out of curiosity, how do you manage that?
It's pretty straightforward for us. We just check out the source t
uired CFCs)?
---
Kevin Graeme
Cooperative Extension Technology Services
University of Wisconsin-Extension
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:57 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple
Different IDE's have infinite differences in anything from memory usage to
stability to added RAD-enabling utilities to wizards...
--Ferg
Exactly and which of those features are more important then others is a very
personal decision. So what makes a great IDE for one developer, makes a very
ect: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
Many of these arguments are like which tools is better, a Stanley
screwdriver or a Craftsman? They both do the same thing. It comes down
to
a personal feeling o
Many of these arguments are like which tools is better, a Stanley
screwdriver or a Craftsman? They both do the same thing. It comes down to
a personal feeling of warm and fuzziness.
~|
Logware (www.logware.us): a new and conv
> Thanks for your opinion there chief. You may want to exercise
> that delete key.
That's certainly one option for everyone. However, if you see the same
thread come up every three months or so, with the same resolution each time,
you might get a little frustrated. Let's take a look at some choic
AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: What's your setup for multiple developers
Do we really need to start this thread yet again?!?!
I personally dont care what IDE you use. I use DW without a problem,
because as I've said before its skill that make the developer, not the
IDE.
-Adam
On 4/13/05,
en entirely too much bashing on thread topics on this
list.
- Calvin
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
True truebut DW do
iple developers seems very
on-topic.
---
Kevin Graeme
Cooperative Extension Technology Services
University of Wisconsin-Extension
> -Original Message-
> From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:31 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Wh
> -Original Message-
> From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Every developer has Developer Edition locally and a full
> version of the site.
Out of curiosity, how do you manage that? It seems untenable in our
environment. We have over 50,000 pages, LDAP secured sections (but t
True truebut DW does make it easier for you ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 April 2005 16:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: What's your setup for multiple developers
Do we really need to start this thread yet again?!?!
I personally
#x27;s just pure greatness.
>
> --Ferg
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
>
>
On 4/13/05, Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I would like to use CFEclipse, but I got really used to using
> CTRL-SHIFT-U to send a file to the production server for small
> updates. What I'd really like to to have all updates go to source
> control and then have a quick way to update t
I'd really like this feature in CFEclipse also
- Calvin
-Original Message-
From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: What's your setup for multiple developers
I would like to use CFEclipse, but I got r
Don't get me wrong, I have used DWMX since 0.9 but now it is just a mem hog.
I use CF Eclipse now with VSS plugin.sorted.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 April 2005 15:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple
see myself using anything else for a hell
> of a long time. I use it for CF, PHP/Smarty and Laszlo development and
> it's just pure greatness.
>
> --Ferg
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wed
: Miércoles, 13 de Abril de 2005 10:31
Para: 'cf-talk@houseoffusion.com'
Asunto: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
For a while used DWMX but the development turns really slow for big files
or lot of includes like fbx_switch
So , we back to CfStudio with excellent results
]
(+56-2) 43 00 155
-Mensaje original-
De: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: Miércoles, 13 de Abril de 2005 10:12
Para: CF-Talk
Asunto: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
I like the last line of that email...
For all of you DWMX people out the
eatness.
--Ferg
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
VSS works AOK for us, never had issues - indeed the next version of VSS
should improve
VSS works AOK for us, never had issues - indeed the next version of VSS
should improve things no end.
I would avoid Dreamweaver MX like the plague.
-Original Message-
From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 April 2005 20:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: What's your setu
Sean Corfield wrote:
> On Apr 12, 2005 11:36 AM, Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>do you have any suggestions for a windows only environment concerning
>>version control? I know the vb guy uses MS VSS. How easy is that to
>>integrate into DWMX?
>
>
> Personally, I'd avoid VSS like t
-Original Message-
From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The tools are good and pretty much all of them are free (which VSS is not).
Unless you use some sort of MS tool. We got VSS bundled with the VB Studio for
the new .NET developer. So at least no EXTRA cost, but we d
On Apr 12, 2005 11:36 AM, Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> do you have any suggestions for a windows only environment concerning
> version control? I know the vb guy uses MS VSS. How easy is that to
> integrate into DWMX?
Personally, I'd avoid VSS like the plague. There have been two ma
TECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
....Subject: Re: What's your setup for multiple developers
do you have any suggestions for a windows only environment concerning
version control? I know the vb guy uses MS VSS. How easy is that to
integrate into
do you have any suggestions for a windows only environment concerning
version control? I know the vb guy uses MS VSS. How easy is that to
integrate into DWMX?
On Apr 12, 2005 12:42 PM, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 12, 2005 6:13 AM, Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: What's your setup for multiple developers
On Apr 12, 2005 6:13 AM, Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How are other shops doing it?
Central source code repository using CVS (free, good free tools as
well).
Every
I just want to add a big "+1" to this - real version control is an
important part of being a professional developer. We have about thirty
developers working on a single code base, covering up to six project
releases at the same time (on different branches) and source code
control makes it possible
, April 12, 2005 7:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: What's your setup for multiple developers
I'm trying to figure out best to configure my development server.
I've got 2 developers and 1 more on the way soon. We currently work
with CF6, but we are thinking of going to CF7 very soon. I&
On Apr 12, 2005 6:13 AM, Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How are other shops doing it?
Central source code repository using CVS (free, good free tools as well).
Every developer has Developer Edition locally and a full version of the site.
We also have several shared dev servers for dev
, April 12, 2005 9:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: What's your setup for multiple developers
I'm trying to figure out best to configure my development server.
I've got 2 developers and 1 more on the way soon. We currently work with
CF6, but we are thinking of going to CF7 very soon. I
Damien McKenna wrote:
> These conflicts are almost always a case of opening the file and
> manually merging the changes between the multiple edits. These rare
> occurances should never cause enough concern that a decent revision
> management system is not used, that would be just foolish.
That,
e-
>From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:44 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple developers
>
>> Paul Vernon wrote:
>> > the procedures we have. Also, the one golden rule is no
>> >
Marlon Moyer wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out best to configure my development server.
> I've got 2 developers and 1 more on the way soon. We currently work
> with CF6, but we are thinking of going to CF7 very soon. I've always
> used the devnet version of CF on my local machine, currently CF6
> Is this a limitation of MS SourceSafe, or of version control
> in general? I thought in cvs/svn, 2+ developers can check out
> the same file, modify and commit it without problems, so long
> as they work on different parts of the file. If they make changes
> that overwrite each other's, a con
> Paul Vernon wrote:
> > the procedures we have. Also, the one golden rule is no
> > double check outs by two developers on a single file
> > That is just way too much hassle
>
> Is this a limitation of MS SourceSafe, or of version control
> in general?
SourceSafe is a crock. Learn it
Paul Vernon wrote:
> the procedures we have. Also, the one golden rule is no double check outs by
> two developers on a single file That is just way too much hassle
Is this a limitation of MS SourceSafe, or of version control in general?
I thought in cvs/svn, 2+ developers can check out t
I the short time I had a developer to help, we used Subversion for source
control (which is excellent). We have a fully licenced dev/test/prod 3 tier
setup, so we did our initial development on our own personal servers and
uploaded the files to dev after checking them in to the SVN repo. To people
We too rarely have more than one person working on the same project. We
sometimes have the need to bring one person in to help another but those
times are rare as well. I have yet to work with a company that used some
form of source control. About 6 years ago I worked on a project where we did
We are using Subversion. Working out great so far and its free!
-Original Message-
From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: What's your setup for multiple developers
I'm trying to figure out best to configure my d
> HAVE OTHER DEVELOPERS TO HELP YOU?!?!?
Yeah! Can you send us a picture? :o)
Rick
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:24 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: What's your setup for multiple deve
On a related note, how do you cope with different databases, schema
changes, etc?
--
Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014
#include
~|
Logware (www.
we typically use a shared dev server environment. We rarely have developers
working on the same project simultaneously though. I'm an advocate of using
ur PC to dev and use the shared server for testing though, and of course
using CVS! But trying to get some old skoolers from the Cobol days to b
system like that in place.
--Ferg
-Original Message-
From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: What's your setup for multiple developers
We have a seperate license for a Dev server that all developers use and
the
> How are other shops doing it?
Each workstation has a CF developer edition installed, the source is kept in
a global repository and accessed via source safe. The central dev server has
a mapping to the global repository to for full 'pre-live' testing but each
developer can check out code and wo
We have a seperate license for a Dev server that all developers use and the
clients have access to as well. I often do development on my own machine
though and push it up manually. I do this just because of random glitches on
the network that sometimes cause files to disappear when working on th
I'm trying to figure out best to configure my development server.
I've got 2 developers and 1 more on the way soon. We currently work
with CF6, but we are thinking of going to CF7 very soon. I've always
used the devnet version of CF on my local machine, currently CF6, to
develop and the other de
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