I know I was talking off list a bit, But I agree with you on this.
-Tim
1966 Chevelle
I like soda.
My socks are a little loose.
Woo hoo! I cut my grass today.
I think human feces smells bad.
Seriously. Of the 115 messages I got from this list today, I count 26 that
might be in scope. 23%. :o[
A suggestion: Maybe we should create a seperate list for chit-chat. Who
adminis
yeah i love the speed and all, but what i didnt mention was that fact that when im super nervous, my legs shake really badly. I had a jacket around my legs the whole time. Not necessarily driving stupid was a blast, people i was with made it fun.
Dale:
its funny but you know I have never checked that out. I do have some VIN shots of a z16 and I will look. the z16 package was an option. I will look and post more afterwards.
Larry (z)
I bought a new plastic blinker piece for in the stearing wheel in my 1966
chevelle. It cost me about $23.00 cdn (after market)
Dave
Ingersoll,Ontario
My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
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Thanks! I will check into those leads. I am having trouble finding
wheels that I like. I have been looking for something similar to those,
but not polished. Those caught my eye as a definite possibility.
B
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i am getting sick of this.i used to look forward to
reading the list but now i really dont.the subjects are way off and it
sucks! it is ok to do it a little but this is to much. i
like reading things like the Z-16 thing thats goning on but not things like
politics and stu
Well, the third signal switch cancel lever has broke. I've had the car
a long time. Don't think it's a dealer item anymore. Also the two speed
wiper switch is bust. I got a nicely refinished dash as a gift so I guess
it's time to get the other parts together and install it.
So where's the best
>Oh no...Don't do it! If there's any other alternate
route - take it! You will be too upset...
:(
We lost a fortune on the East Texas house, so I went for two loans (one
at a higher rate for the down payment)try this avenuedon't sell the
car
Any
>Kelly, know it well!! have a bunch that come through the shop complex, let me know if ya have any luck with the game!
I gotta find someone to program it...wish I knew how, it might be a big seller!
Kelly & Jana Hanna
www.hannawoodworks.com
Don't know for sure. Del used to hang out here but haven't seen him lately.
They look like the old style Ansen Sprint slotted mags to me, but polished.
I don't think Ansen is in business anymore but it was a popular style.
Fenton was another company that made wheels in the 60's and 70's. Best be
>Oh no...Don't do it! If there's any other alternate route - take it! You will be too upset... :(
We lost a fortune on the East Texas house, so I went for two loans (one at a higher rate for the down payment)try this avenuedon't sell the car
Kelly & Jana Hanna
www.hannawoo
>Where did you see one for 200 k? In all my years dealing with chevelles I have never seen one sell or actually for
>sale for over 90 k.
The highest price ever paid was a shade over $160k...recent;y at auction a "super rare" LS-6 convertible (6 made so they say).
Kelly & Jana Hanna
www.hannaw
>I already have a few people interested, but again I don't have much time
>to focus on a club.
>I have the name, logo and preliminary by-laws, but no members or dues
>structure, or input from prospective members. I could use some help
>here.
Maybe hit some cruise spots in your town and talk to
Being a cop today is a tough job. Unfortunetly I think besides getting a bad rep from the 3% who break the rules, that also the increased need for them has led to many of the wrong types of people/personalities to get in to the field. It seems alot of officer these days want to make arrests and TEL
I was very lucky that this was a small town cop that would rather scare the crap out of me then necesarrily prosecute. He knew I was scared when he came up to the car and I think my cooperation did ease me getting off with my license still. Although it did take me about 6 months to actually drive a
Hey. Thanks for the link! On the website, there is a picture labeled
"Del Woodcock". I am curious what type of wheels those are. Can you
help me out?
Thanks
Brenna
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Tell the guy with the original LS6 to keep everything he removes from the car
including old belts, bolts, clips, any paper tags found even if partial,
everything. A future collector or restorer will appreciate it.
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Point taken. I was just saying that this particular car is a mess. It would be VERY difficult ( expensive ) to restore to a worthy condition. The frame has been changed numerous times. As I said before, The VIN is about the only original parts left. Where would you even find the parts to ret
Dan:
I could show you several z16s that were in worst shape than that one that are back on the road or are being restored right now. The correct VIN with a title (only if the body/frame are there) you can completely restore one. since we are talking less then 70 cars known to exist at this time it
Was the VIN on the Z-16 different from a V8 Malibu SS in
'65; that is 13837?
Dale
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>Maintanence items, such as alternator, water pump, brakes, tires, etc I
>think would be OK... as long as they were OEM replacement parts.
>
>What are your opinions??
They should be okay, but then again, those who are into restoring EXACTLY as the factory built the car will tell you the
Larry,
Seems the VIN would be the only thing Z-16 on that car. At that point, it will never be what a Z-16 is supposed to be, hell, there's nothing original on that car, well, maybe the doors. To me, just being able to say "its a real Z-16' is worthless. Its not a Z-16 anymore, VIN or not. My opi
That's what I'm wondering...
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woah! where do u live and what grade are u going to?
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> in september, i think it is the 4th
> kyle m
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but you said you had a blast...
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know this. This is why I never hang out with him. He drives crazy as c
Oh no...Don't do it! If there's any other
alternate route - take it! You will be too upset...
:(
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Why do you ask? I think it's around August 28?
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> Chad - when does school start?
>
> Krister Meister
> Bartlet
You're right, PURSUE, not HAVE.
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> > right to pursue happiness, vote, free press etc.
> You
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> The key is you have the right to ~pursue happiness~,
> you don't have the
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> Dale
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Do you know where they get virgin wool?
Ugly sheep!
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> I thought that was only New Zealand
For the same reason people sell SS jacks, SS radios, SS
fenders etc I suppose. "The guy I bought it from told me it was" or "my
buddy says it is" is always a good copout. I liked the guy selling NOS
inner fender wells for a 70 LS6. Never mind the fact they'd been on the
car since new, had
>
> I thought that was only New Zealand!
>
I hear that New Zealanders have found a new use for sheepwool :*)
Dale
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> Only in the case of where a part has to be replaced & is not
> available as a
> gm replacement should aftermarket parts be allowed.
> Don
I wish I had counted all the trips I made to GM and Ford dealers with Gates
stuff, TRW stuff, Monroe shocks, etc for them to put on a customers car when
I wa
> right to pursue happiness, vote, free press etc. You
The key is you have the right to ~pursue happiness~, you don't have the
right to expect it.
Dale
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> I agree "IF"you really love the car you will hate yourself forever,
> as I do for selling my 64 Vette Conv, 365 HP 327 4 speed. Got $1700.00
> for it, that was in 1970. There ain't a day I wake up & kick my ass...
>
Boy Dave, for an OF, you're pretty limber if you can do that! I can hardly
jo
>
> Personally if that were my car, I'd have the original components such as
> Alternator, water pump, etc.. rebuilt. Belts and hoses I would
> replace with
> new stuff as there is no way to restore those.
But, there are ~correct~ GM marked belts and hoses. Even though Gates
probably made the or
Click http://www.dalesplace.com/htm/gallery/gallery.htm then the ~1972~
link.
Dale
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I have Taylor's on both of mine. Come in a nice
variety of colors and spark plug angles.
Dale McIntoshACES #1709/TC #92 Gold67 SS/67 Elkyhttp://www.dalesplace.comhttp://www.team67.comhttp://www.midwestchevelles.com
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Funny you should mention that. The guy that taped
the latest incident in Inglewood...he's back in Northern California now under
arrest for violating his probation :*) Seems there was a warrant out for
his arrest. Just goes to prove that no good deed goes
unpunished.
Dale
MMM the
Many shows I've been to draw the line at 30%-35% restoration effort. Items
such as new paint, new interior panels, detailed under the hood, etc. Most
will accept normal maintenance items such as belts, hoses, clamps, tires,
etc BUT will award more points (in Original class) for GM marked hose an
Dan:
that is where you are wrong. If the VIN numbers were there for a z16 that car would be worth 5-10 k easy.you should see the ones with right VIN numbers I have been offered for 15-20 k.
Larry (z)
I get that stuff too. But you forgot to include Acuras, slammed Hondas and
newer pick-ups with Kelly's Flowmasters behind their cat-back systems!
Wanna-bees!
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Hell, I'd say take the left nut.
Then, when you see something and say " I'd give my left nut for that", you can then say, "hell, I don't need to give MY left nut, because I already have someone else's". See the logic there???
Dan McIntosh
65 Malibu
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Dale:
driving and watching TV may not be a good idea either :)>
Larry (z)
Howdy,
It seems kinda funny to me, that if it isn't a real Z-16, that he would claim it to be. Anyone who would even know what a Z-16 is, would not want that one even if it were the real deal, and anyone who doesn't know what a Z-16 is, wouldn't care if it is or not. So why bother??? Take i
huh??? what are u talking about??
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in september, i think it is the 4th
kyle m
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> Chad - when does school start?
>
> Krister Meister
> Bartlett, IL
I thought that was only New Zealand!
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For what its worth, while in Saudi Arabia I saw many
Arab
Where did you see one for 200 k? In all my years dealing with chevelles I have never seen one sell or actually for sale for over 90 k.
Larry (z)
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> In a message dated Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> > "so i bet when you were 16 - you thought it was a privalige to drive...yea
> > ri
I know this. This is why I never hang out with him. He drives crazy as crap. Only going 100MPH on the freeway, not that it matters, and we were just in the neighborhood, not that it mattered. Now you guys know why I always take my own car or truck when going to his house. Craig, it wasnt that fun,
Having been a cop for 20 years now, I remember
those "good ol days". Some were better, some worse.. than today.
Different world now.
Don
MMM the good old days
when cops were allowed to be cops. I bet nobody taped the arrest either
did they. That ought to start something!
This was an email sent to me from a friend last month.
Larry (z)
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For those of you who don't know, I lost my dad to a motorcycle accident on Wednesday, June 19th. We are making it as well as can be expected. My dad was taken from us way too
I would agree. Any parts that can be rebuilt should be & anything that has
to be replaced should be replaced with gm replacement parts wherever
available.
Only in the case of where a part has to be replaced & is not available as a
gm replacement should aftermarket parts be allowed.
Don
> I am no
MMM the good old days
when cops were allowed to be cops. I bet nobody taped the arrest either
did they. That ought to start something!
Lance
UT-OHHH DUCK FOR COVER!!
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Kelly, know it well!! have
a bunch that come through the shop complex, let me know if ya have any luck with
the game!!! LMAO
Rob
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Question: Why is there a large counter weight on the back of the T5
transmissions for 2.8 V6 liter in the early years?
ANTI-VIBRATION as these motors idled rough due to their firing order..
. and i have one of these trans if anybody wants it,
its out of an 88' v6 camaro --- FREE/u shi
well put Steve.
Rob Means
"be good,if not,be good at it
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> Chad,
>
I'd say almost every time I drive my Vette (keep in mind the engine is
pretty stock and it's not very fast) someone, young or old (crusty) wants to
race!
I was in traffic Tuesday on my way home from work and some guy in a 5.0 next
to me (with a dump truck right in front of him) starts hopping on
> Damn Herb
> I thought ya was a crusty ole fart also and here I'm a year older than
> ya.
> so whats that make me???
>
Ahh, a little closer to crusty than me?
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> Sorry, I only need one left nut.
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Hey, for future reference, you never know what could happen!
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cYa-
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Herb: it won't
work. She would get it in the divorce se
To you
statement
"When I was
your age I knew everything and I was invincible, but now that I am older I look
back and say I wish I listened to my dad..."
I must say When I
was 16, my father was the dumbest man on Earth; I can't believe how much smarter
he has gotten every year since
Oh yeah Paul, you are on the money! My dad never let
me forget that driving was a privilege. You have the
right to pursue happiness, vote, free press etc. You
do NOT have the right to drive. Simply drawing breath
for 16 years doesn't mean you should be allowed to
drive. I'm glad they make you take
yea Mikey, behind ya all the way
on this one
Rob
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Damn Herb
I thought ya was a crusty ole fart also and here I'm a year older than
ya.
so whats that make me???
Rob Means
"be good,if not,be good at it
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Personally if that were my car, I'd have the original components such as
Alternator, water pump, etc.. rebuilt. Belts and hoses I would replace with
new stuff as there is no way to restore those.
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also a reminder, if your runnin a plastic fuel cell in your car, be sure to
run a ground strap to the filler on the fuel cell or your risking the same
situation FIRE
Rob Means
"be good,if not,be good at it
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I am not into orginals either but i would say if he plans on restoring the
car one day to be a numbers matching car i would say have little stuff like
the alternator rebuilt not replaced.
Michael
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I tottally agree Herb.
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> I don't mean
At 01:01 PM 07/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Don't do it! Find another way! Stuff envelopes or something. Having been
>one a the rare lucky ones to get my SS back after 14 years I hate to see
>them go for down payments on anything.
>
>Good Luck,
>JD Hall
I agree "IF"you really love the car you wil
Herb:
it won't work. She would get it in the divorce settlement anyway.
Larry (z)
At 10:23 AM 07/18/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Here are somer terms used that I got off a Mercury list I'm on for my
>sons car.
>If you don't know what they mean, its a lesson in car lingo.
>If you already do, you are ahead of me by a few years.
>I didn't know these a few years ago.
>
>Shaved=the takin
Chad:
no it isn't. All but one z16 were built in Kansas City. this car was built in mass. I emailed him several days ago and guess what? he didn't answer me! Wonder why ??? CUZ IT AIN'T ONE THATS WHY!
Larry (z)
NAPA aka Never Any Parts Available
Don't do it! Find another way!
Stuff envelopes or something. Having been one a the rare lucky ones to get my SS
back after 14 years I hate to see them go for down payments on
anything.
Good Luck,
JD Hall
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feel free to email me off the list for any questions or advice. Also what Don wrote is good advice.
Larry (z)
yes they are
I already have a few people interested, but again I don't have much time
to focus on a club.
I have the name, logo and preliminary by-laws, but no members or dues
structure, or input from prospective members. I could use some help
here.
Paul O'Brien
84 El Camino SS
NECOA #125
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Sorry you have to sell her Ken
How do you get to Dales Place to see photos?
Paul O'Brien
84 El Camino SS
NECOA #125
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> it is with much dismay, that im selling my HeavyChevy, i thought id
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My son who is 16 and just starting to get his permit, is an ems. He has
been to 2 accidents whre he knew the kids, one of whichdied. He is not in a
big hurry to get a license.
Jim Buckingham
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I had a friend that rolled his 69 Charger the day after he successfully
ran from the police the night before.
He never drove like that again because after he got his license back, he
was scared to death to drive fast anymore.
My respect goes out to the guys that have to deal with accidents on a
da
I'd say general maintainance items leave the car considered OU as long as
they are GM service replacement parts and not generic brand parts.
Tom
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Have you guys experienced old guys that want to show you how fast his
Buick or Lincoln is by stepping on it at stops. I don't know what it is,
but that happens to me a lot.
Joe Jackrabbit has to show the guy in his El Camino he drives a fast
car, almost taking out the guy turning in front of him i
Here are somer terms used that I got off a Mercury list I'm on for my
sons car.
If you don't know what they mean, its a lesson in car lingo.
If you already do, you are ahead of me by a few years.
I didn't know these a few years ago.
Shaved=the taking off of all chrome pieces, door
handles,molding
Good morning All,
it is with much dismay, that im selling my HeavyChevy, i thought id let you guys/girls get the news first no reasonable offer will be refused, theres a couple of pics at Dales place, i can send more upon request, trying to buy a house and need the for the down payment, t
> I believe things like a motor change, paint job, interior replacements
(such
> as carpet, headliner, etc...) would knock him out of the Unrestored
Original
> class.
>
> Maintenance items, such as alternator, water pump, brakes, tires, etc
I
> think would be OK... as long as they were OEM rep
I have a conflict in opinons that I would like the list to respond to:
If you were judging this car in the Original Restored Class, what would be
acceptable??
'66 SS Chevelle...
- Gas tank - Painted, stainless-type finish, or is either acceptable
- fan/alternator belt - cloth wrapped or GM re
I've investigated three
fatal accidents this year along in my area. Not a pretty site. I can tell
you one thing, the worst part of my job is going to a home and tell a wife and
her two year old boy that daddy won't being coming home tonight. THINK
ABOUT IT...is it that much fun
C
I had a question from a member the other day that wants to replace a few
parts on his Unrestored 70 SS. It's an unmolested, unrestored, matching #'s
LS6 with around 70K miles. Original paint, interior, motor, etc.
He would like to replace some of the worn parts... belts, hoses, etc at
When I was 16 it was a privilege to drive. My dad gave me his old car, a 65
Dodge Polara wagon with a 383 v-8,185,000 miles on it and a spun bearing. I
worked at a shoe store for $1.35 an hour and spent all of my spare time
rebuilding that engine so I could drive. I paid for my own gas, insurance
I took a ride with a friend like that about 20 years ago. Cost me
152 stitches in my face and 3 knee surgeries.
Dan Raburn
"Kelly C. Hanna" wrote:
>Tonight for example, Im with
my
>friend Ryan. We are in a 1992 Ford Taurus. We are blowing
thro
Hi Craig,
I use MSD SuperConductor wires. They're a bit pricier
than other brands, but they're rated at 40 ohms per foot, which is very
good. The only color I've seen is red, btw.
They use spark plug type terminals on the distributor cap end
so they can't vibrate loose. They also use a
Chad - when does school start?
Krister Meister
Bartlett, IL
'66 SS #'s matching
"Chad Playso"
I need to replace my present spark
plug wires. I want to purchase a nice looking set that can be custom cut
and fitted to my car. What type and brand do you recommend? I'm not
racing, just showing and cruising. Thanks.
Craig
69SS
MMM the good old days
when cops were allowed to be cops. I bet nobody taped the arrest either
did they. That ought to start something!
Lance
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I remember when I was 17 and driving a 58 Chevy Belair doing over 100 miles an hour on the highways not realizing what would happen if someone pulled out on you or you blew a tire and anything. Back then kids like me and maybe you though the faster you can go the cooler you are. But today Iam 54 yr
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