Re: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-09-04 Thread Dain Deutschman
Thanks everyone for the great comments and replies. This was all very helpfull. Dain Brad Dodds wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Where I work, we have 5 dry pair circuits to customers (out of 1300). We provide the signaling on the lines with sets of Campus brand pair gain units at the

Re: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-09-03 Thread Brad Dodds
Where I work, we have 5 dry pair circuits to customers (out of 1300). We provide the signaling on the lines with sets of Campus brand pair gain units at the sites and 14 card chassis style pair gain unit at our POP. They are much less expensive ($18 per month vs. $100 for business class DSL) but I

Re: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-08-19 Thread Dain Deutschman
Here is an interesting link about dry copper... http://www.panix.com/~oppedahl/lads/ Dain Deutschman wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Does anyone know if Cisco makes a product similar to the Pairgain Campus HRS or Celsian G250 LAN Extenders? I want to create a dsl connection

Re: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-08-19 Thread Dain Deutschman
I used a couple of Pairgain Campus HRS devices to do this a couple of years ago. We had an occasional disruption of service...but overall it worked very well. To order dry copper you just call your phone company and ask the about it. A couple of years ago it was appr. $70 p/m from qwest at each

Re: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-08-19 Thread MADMAN
, August 18, 2003 8:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117] Dain Deutschman wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Does anyone know if Cisco makes a product similar to the Pairgain Campus HRS or Celsian G250 LAN Extenders? I want to create a dsl

Re: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-08-19 Thread
dsl and start your research. Ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117] Dain Deutschman wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All

RE: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-08-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
over Dry Copper [7:74117] Hi All, Does anyone know if Cisco makes a product similar to the Pairgain Campus HRS or Celsian G250 LAN Extenders? I want to create a dsl connection over dry copper between two sites. Cisco reseller helpline was mildly helpfull. What are some of you using for this type

RE: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Cotts
We did it several years ago using some 3Com gear (still have it boxed up somewhere). We had an office site two blocks from the CO. Loop length wasn't an issue. We gave them lots of business so they gave us dry pair at a nominal cost (IIRC less than $5 per month per line). The problem is when a

DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-08-18 Thread Dain Deutschman
Hi All, Does anyone know if Cisco makes a product similar to the Pairgain Campus HRS or Celsian G250 LAN Extenders? I want to create a dsl connection over dry copper between two sites. Cisco reseller helpline was mildly helpfull. What are some of you using for this type of situation? Thanks, --

Re: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-08-18 Thread
Dain Deutschman wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Does anyone know if Cisco makes a product similar to the Pairgain Campus HRS or Celsian G250 LAN Extenders? I want to create a dsl connection over dry copper between two sites. Cisco reseller helpline was mildly helpfull. What

RE: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-08-18 Thread Pintens, Koen
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117] Uh, what is dry copper? Is it analogous to dark fiber? Thanks Priscilla Chuck Whose Road is Ever Shorte wrote: Dain Deutschman wrote in message news

Re: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-08-18 Thread
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uh, what is dry copper? Is it analogous to dark fiber? as a matter of fact, yes. copper from your friendly telco with no dial tone. a local loop with no signaling equipoment attached. alarm companies use it extensively, place their

Re: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-08-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Uh, what is dry copper? Is it analogous to dark fiber? Thanks Priscilla Chuck Whose Road is Ever Shorte wrote: Dain Deutschman wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Does anyone know if Cisco makes a product similar to the Pairgain Campus HRS or Celsian G250 LAN

RE: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117]

2003-08-18 Thread Ryan Finnesey
How do you order dry copper? Ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DSL over Dry Copper [7:74117] Dain Deutschman wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Does anyone