OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-11 Thread John Neiberger
I just feel the need to rant/vent for a bit and I knew there were a bunch of you who might be able to relate to this. I've started teaching a short, one-session general networking class for some of the people here at the bank. The first session, which was really just a runthrough with a handful o

Re: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-11 Thread Charles Riley
John, Sounds like you had what I call a "Floating Talking Head" experience. It's happened to me before. Basically, you are in the middle of teaching, presenting, or briefing, and you experience a trippy sensation of almost being outside yourself. As you talk, your self awareness gets distorted,

Re: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-11 Thread John Neiberger
>John, > >Sounds like you had what I call a "Floating Talking Head" experience. It's >happened to me before. > >Basically, you are in the middle of teaching, presenting, or briefing, and >you experience a trippy sensation of almost being outside yourself. As you >talk, your self awareness gets di

RE: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-11 Thread Frank Jimenez
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826] I just feel the need to rant/vent for a bit and I knew there were a bunch of you who might be able to relate to

RE: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-11 Thread John Neiberger
mera and not tell me it's in the room. :-( Frank Jimenez, CCIE #5738 Systems Engineer Cisco Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-11 Thread Logan, Harold
eiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826] > > > I just feel the need to rant/vent for a bit and I knew there were a > bunch of you who might be able to relate to this. I

RE: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-11 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G
PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826] I just feel the need to rant/vent for a bit and I knew there were a bunch of you who might be able to relate to this. I've started teaching a short, one-session gen

RE: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-11 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>I don't know about you, but public speaking is one of the hardest skills >I've had to learn. > >I've noticed that there are lots of 'fear-enhancing' factors that can >become involved; they can vary from person to person - some speakers >completely lose it when handling a difficult audience-member,

Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-11 Thread Tom Lisa
John, A good classroom experience begins with three things: preparation, preparation, preparation! This is not to say that you didn't prepare, but each class requires additional preparation even if taught before. Another issue that arises is that every class has its own synergy. The concepts th

Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-11 Thread John Neiberger
""Tom Lisa"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > John, > > A good classroom experience begins with three things: preparation, > preparation, preparation! This is not to say that you didn't prepare, > but each class requires additional preparation even if taught before.

RE: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-11 Thread John Jones
Hey, for those of us who teach technology for a living, as myself, we all have those moments. What I find is that things don't go well when I get a big head thinking that I've done this before and don't need to prepare as much. It's as if I get humbled and have to work my way back up again to get "

Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-12 Thread Cisco Nuts
>From: "John Neiberger" >Reply-To: "John Neiberger" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826] >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:12:07 GMT > >I just feel the need to rant/vent for a bit and I knew there were a >bunch of you

Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-12 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
31 and talk about Ospf. Ospf >is....." > >Good Luck. > > > > > > > > > >>From: "John Neiberger" >>Reply-To: "John Neiberger" >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826] >>Date:

Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
n notes help as students respect > you more than > just saying "Ok guys, let's turn to page 31 and talk about > Ospf. Ospf > is." > > Good Luck. > > > > > > > > > > >From: "John Neiberger" > >Reply-To: &

Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-12 Thread John Neiberger
>John has a difficult task because he has learners of all levels, from >different walks of life. I bet he has a huge mix of learning styles. > >Now, you might think that networking attracts hands-on learners, so if he >were teaching all "real networking people," he would have an esier time. I >have

RE: Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
John Neiberger wrote: > > As for Myers Briggs, I'm a fellow INTJ. Cool! :-) > However, I really > dislike > their testing process. It seems to consist of "Given a certain > situation would you do A or would you do B" with no room for a > 'maybe' > answer. At least a third of the time I wish t

Re: Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-12 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""John Neiberger"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > >John has a difficult task because he has learners of all levels, from > >different walks of life. I bet he has a huge mix of learning styles. > > > >Now, you might think that networking attracts hands-on learners,

Re: Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-13 Thread Peter van Oene
> >There's more about the Myers Briggs personality "sorter" here: > > > >http://keirsey.com/ > > > >Anyone else want to share what they are, or have we wasted enough >bandwidth > >on this already? :-) > > > >Priscilla > > > >First, you're correct about the mix of learning styles in my class. >This

Re: Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-13 Thread John Neiberger
>> As for Myers Briggs, I'm a fellow INTJ. However, I really dislike >> their testing process. It seems to consist of "Given a certain >> situation would you do A or would you do B" with no room for a 'maybe' >> answer. At least a third of the time I wish there were a "sometimes A >> and sometim

Re: Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
> >> As for Myers Briggs, I'm a fellow INTJ. However, I really dislike >>> their testing process. It seems to consist of "Given a certain >>> situation would you do A or would you do B" with no room for a >'maybe' >>> answer. At least a third of the time I wish there were a "sometimes >A >>>