RE: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-22 Thread Mark Odette II
bs to practice :) Mark Odette II CCNA, 3/4 CCNP, MCSE, A+, and lots of hard work ahead of him. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nick S. Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512

RE: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-19 Thread Patrick Zhou
MAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick S. Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512] Also, the way these labs are designed they demand on 13 routers & switches (not to mention the topology) that it becomes imperative

Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-19 Thread Nick S.
Also, the way these labs are designed they demand on 13 routers & switches (not to mention the topology) that it becomes imperative for 90% of the people to buy rack time from the lab sellers and that is really bad. I know of many people out there in China & India (other asian countries) who have

Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-19 Thread EA Louie
> The trouble is that Cisco has made this certification seem so "unachievable" > and so "frightening" and of course "so much wantable" that it creates a > market for "knowing the unknown" and "taming the untamed". So you are ok, in > looking at the tremendous opportunity amidst all this, and make

Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-19 Thread Nick S.
That wasnt me Mark. This is Nick and that was Jason. and my email address is listed and I post regularly, and email add. works. I was complaining about the high prices and not the quality of your product, in fact I also suggested that nothing is free. Basically I would suggest that as is the ca

Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-19 Thread Jason
First and foremost, the Jason who started this thread isn't this Jason. :-) Having said that, I do believe that it is fair to say that NLI is far from being a scam, it's a business and like any business or product, you can chose to use it or not to use it. I have received a couple of updates from

Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-19 Thread Marc Russell
No problem, maybe your e-mail was just down, but this is what I got when I tried to send you an e-mail. See below. The CCIE process is very expenesive. If $650.00 is very expensive then setting up a practice rack is probably out of reach. Extensive hands on practice with a rack of routers is

RE: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-19 Thread Kevin Welch
ehalf Of Marc Russell Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512] Not even sure how to respond in a politically correct manner to a post such as this, but I will try my best. I must say that if someone is going to publicly slam a company

Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-19 Thread Ben Liang Tan
gic number) >From: "Marc Russell" >Reply-To: "Marc Russell" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512] >Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 01:17:23 -0500 > >Not even sure how to respond in a politically correct manner to a post such >as this, but I wi

Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-18 Thread Nick S.
my email address works, and I wouldnt mind having a dialogue with you. The trouble is that Cisco has made this certification seem so "unachievable" and so "frightening" and of course "so much wantable" that it creates a market for "knowing the unknown" and "taming the untamed". So you are ok, in

Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-18 Thread MADMAN
You hit the nail on the head Chuck, and I have told others that what they have you do in the lab is configure a working network in such a way you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy. Yes it's turned into an profit making industry but it hasn't always been so. When I went to the lab there was one

Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-18 Thread Marc Russell
Not even sure how to respond in a politically correct manner to a post such as this, but I will try my best. I must say that if someone is going to publicly slam a company as a "scam" it would carry more weight if they used a real e-mail address and if it came from an individual that has actually

RE: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-18 Thread Chuck Larrieu
having expressed similar sentiments myself, I'm not disagreeing in principal. However, I would suggest that there is still MUCH of value in the bootcamp labs. Being a two time loser, I am re-examining my study methods. One of the conclusions I've reached is that I have been looking at the practi

RE: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-18 Thread Nick S.
Jason, I hate to do this, and I know that the "ccie gods" and "god makers" will not like me for this, BUT ISNT THERE A WAY TO BYPASS THESE PROFIT MAKERS and have our own stand. I have read from numerous posts (including one from Chuck Larrieu) that "EVERYTHING U NEED TO BE A CCIE IS ON CCO" its

Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512]

2001-12-18 Thread c1sc0k1d
Here here! The k1d ""Jason"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I was looking in to purchasing the labs from ccbootcamp, but correct me > if I am wrong, they look outdated and full of annoying little errors. > Ccbootcamp says that > it is a subscription but how ma