RE: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-15 Thread ElephantChild
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > >-Original Message- > >From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > >Priscilla Oppenheimer > >Sent:Friday, June 15, 2001 11:28 AM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >

RE: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-15 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of >Priscilla Oppenheimer >Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:28 AM >To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262] > >VMS books were orange, as I recall!? Yes,

RE: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-15 Thread Chuck Larrieu
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262] VMS books were orange, as I recall!? Or maybe you are thinking of the

RE: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-15 Thread Chuck Larrieu
AIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kane, Christopher A. Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 1:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: LLC Type 2 [7:8262] Where can you get manageable copies of the original specifications? I've only been in this environment fo

Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-15 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
VMS books were orange, as I recall!? Or maybe you are thinking of the convergence concurrence interface facility that mapped the red book to the yellow book. Red and yellow make orange. On the other hand, with electronic colors, we only have RGB, so who knows how you make orange in our industr

Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-15 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>Final results of some search: > >> >For information (using my father's notes) the CCITT >> >books-of-recommendations' colors were the following: >> >- green in 1972, >> >- yellow in 1980, >> >- red in 1984 >> >- blue in 1988 (last 4-year-book). >> >> mutters because I distinctly remember a

Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-15 Thread Dr Rita Puzmanova
Final results of some search: > >For information (using my father's notes) the CCITT > >books-of-recommendations' colors were the following: > >- green in 1972, > >- yellow in 1980, > >- red in 1984 > >- blue in 1988 (last 4-year-book). > > mutters because I distinctly remember an Orange Book. 1

Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-14 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>This is quite interesting discussion going back into the roots of the >current networking (which is in many ways quite a useful exercise, yet >not performed often enough). I wish my father who was quite active in >these network-forming days could add his knowledgeable views here - >unfortunately,

Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-13 Thread Michael L. Williams
baum) > >Designing Routing and Switching Architectures for Enterprise > >Networks (Berkowitz) > >IPSEC (Doraswamy) > > > > > >Christopher A. Kane, CCNP/CCDA > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mail

RE: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
signing Routing and Switching Architectures for Enterprise >Networks (Berkowitz) >IPSEC (Doraswamy) > > >Christopher A. Kane, CCNP/CCDA > > > >-Original Message- >From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 3:1

Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 03:18 PM 6/13/01, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > >"Stephen Skinner" raised the interesting points, > > > > >So , > > > >the answer to your question`s seem to be . > > > >Yes if your doing a Cisco Exam > > > >No if your reading info from the CCO > > > >Yes/No depending on who you are tal

RE: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-13 Thread Kane, Christopher A.
outing and Switching Architectures for Enterprise Networks (Berkowitz) IPSEC (Doraswamy) Christopher A. Kane, CCNP/CCDA -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 3:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>"Stephen Skinner" raised the interesting points, >So , > >the answer to your question`s seem to be . > >Yes if your doing a Cisco Exam > >No if your reading info from the CCO > >Yes/No depending on who you are talking too.. > >a Question has just popped into my head..."What else

Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-13 Thread Stephen Skinner
So , the answer to your question`s seem to be . Yes if your doing a Cisco Exam No if your reading info from the CCO Yes/No depending on who you are talking too.. a Question has just popped into my head..."What else that we quote as law (given to us from Cisco and other sources )

Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-13 Thread Dr Rita Puzmanova
This is quite interesting discussion going back into the roots of the current networking (which is in many ways quite a useful exercise, yet not performed often enough). I wish my father who was quite active in these network-forming days could add his knowledgeable views here - unfortunately, it i

Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>Fresh from reading for my Support exam from Cisco Press CIT SDLC is >the granddaddy of them all. created in the mid-1970's to transport >SNA. ISO modified SDLC to create HDLC. Then ITU-T modified HDLC to create >LAP, then later, LAPB. IEEE modified HDLC to get 802.2, which is

Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-12 Thread Michael L. Williams
Fresh from reading for my Support exam from Cisco Press CIT SDLC is the granddaddy of them all. created in the mid-1970's to transport SNA. ISO modified SDLC to create HDLC. Then ITU-T modified HDLC to create LAP, then later, LAPB. IEEE modified HDLC to get 802.2, which is als

Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-12 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
First, I'm going to take issue with what I consider an urban legend that HDLC was based on SDLC. SDLC was first available in the first SNA release in 1973. The HDLC family was the basis of the X.25 link standards, including LAP in the 1972 CCITT specifications. But there was quite bitter fe

Re: LLC Type 2 [7:8262]

2001-06-12 Thread G30RG3
Priscilla, The only reading I have done on the LLC2 standard is from a book written by Roosevelt Giles. From reading the book I got the impression that LLC was a subset of HDLC and it was based on HDLC standard not the other way around. I would have to respectfully disagree with the statement t