Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-12-02 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 1:44 PM + 12/2/02, Peter van Oene wrote: > >A general concept in routing is to always prefer information from the >most accurate source. In Link State routing, a given router always has >the most accurate information about the area itself, and thus will >always prefer information derived fr

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-12-02 Thread Peter van Oene
On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 12:18, p b wrote: > Peter van Oene wrote: > > > > Non intra-area ASBRs are found via type 4 LSAs (ASBR Summary) > > which > > follow the same rules as type 3 summaries and thus prevent non > > zero > > areas from providing transit toward ASBRs (that is where the > > non zero

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-12-01 Thread p b
Peter van Oene wrote: > > Non intra-area ASBRs are found via type 4 LSAs (ASBR Summary) > which > follow the same rules as type 3 summaries and thus prevent non > zero > areas from providing transit toward ASBRs (that is where the > non zero > area contains neither the source nor ASBR) You're rig

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-30 Thread Peter van Oene
On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 12:52, p b wrote: > Thanks for the comments. Some thoughts below. > > Peter van Oene wrote: > > > > > Went back and read through some of the relevant parts of > > > the RFC. I believe there is no routing loop issue if an ABR > > > was to consider summary LSAs received from

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-30 Thread p b
Thanks for the comments. Some thoughts below. Peter van Oene wrote: > > > Went back and read through some of the relevant parts of > > the RFC. I believe there is no routing loop issue if an ABR > > was to consider summary LSAs received from non-zero areas. > > (where "consider" means install

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-27 Thread Peter van Oene
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 08:04, p b wrote: > Thanks. > > Went back and read through some of the relevant parts of > the RFC. I believe there is no routing loop issue if an ABR > was to consider summary LSAs received from non-zero areas. > (where "consider" means install routes from these type 3s.

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-27 Thread p b
Thanks. Went back and read through some of the relevant parts of the RFC. I believe there is no routing loop issue if an ABR was to consider summary LSAs received from non-zero areas. (where "consider" means install routes from these type 3s. "consider", above, does not mean propogate the summ

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-25 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""p b"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Consider this a question around the theory behind why OSPF > did things a certain way. Somewhere along the way, Moy > et. al. decided that there was an issue with an ABR processing > a summary LSA. Based on that, they decid

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-25 Thread Peter van Oene
On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 21:56, p b wrote: > Consider this a question around the theory behind why OSPF > did things a certain way. Somewhere along the way, Moy > et. al. decided that there was an issue with an ABR processing > a summary LSA. Based on that, they decided to make a design > decision

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-25 Thread Erick B.
> > Consider the following topology: > > > > area_0---ABR_1area_1-ABR_2area_0 > > > > There are two area 0's. Use a virtual link to connect the area 0s. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus ^V Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-24 Thread p b
Consider this a question around the theory behind why OSPF did things a certain way. Somewhere along the way, Moy et. al. decided that there was an issue with an ABR processing a summary LSA. Based on that, they decided to make a design decision in OSPF to not allow this behavior. Apparently th

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-24 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""p b"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Thanks. But this doesn't really answer my question. I realize > that area 0 is partitioned. I'm not looking for an answer to > "is there a rule that prevents this", but instead, "what breaks > if ABR_1 were to consider rout

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-24 Thread p b
Thanks. But this doesn't really answer my question. I realize that area 0 is partitioned. I'm not looking for an answer to "is there a rule that prevents this", but instead, "what breaks if ABR_1 were to consider routes learned via a non-area-0 summary LSA in its computation of it's routing tabl

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-24 Thread B.J. Wilson
> CL: hey, all those guys had multiple identities. He could hit the Lab > several times under different identities, scope it out, and probably pass > after just a couple of tries. Crude and slow, clansman. Your config was no better than that of a clumsy child. ;-) Message Posted at: http://ww

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-24 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""B.J. Wilson"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > CL: you have a partitioned area 0. can't have two area zeros in ospf. to > > quote from my favorite movie of all time, "There can be only one" > > "I am Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod. I was born in 1518 in

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-24 Thread B.J. Wilson
> CL: you have a partitioned area 0. can't have two area zeros in ospf. to > quote from my favorite movie of all time, "There can be only one" "I am Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod. I was born in 1518 in the village of Glenfinnan on the shores of Loch Shiel. And I am a CCIE." Message

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-24 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""p b"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Consider the following topology: > > area_0---ABR_1area_1-ABR_2area_0 > > There are two area 0's. CL: you have a partitioned area 0. can't have two area zeros in ospf. to quote from my favorite movie of all ti