Dalibor Topic wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > the schedule for the free Java devroom at FOSDEM is now online. See
> > http://robilad.livejournal.com/59529.html and
> > http://fosdem.org/2010/schedule/tracks/freejava for details.
There has been a small change on Saturd
Hi,
the schedule for the free Java devroom at FOSDEM is now online. See
http://robilad.livejournal.com/59529.html and
http://fosdem.org/2010/schedule/tracks/freejava for details.
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evious years), not all submissions will get picked - so
please try to make your submission sound like a great pick.
The call for submissions runs for four weeks until Sunday, January
3rd 2010. You'll know if your talk was picked by January 6th, 2010.
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LIBRARY = @INIT_LOAD_LIBRARY@;"
> for example.
>
You need to run configure first. It will create Configuration.java
from Configuration.java.in.
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me in a private reply to
this post, and I'll take care of the upload & linking it from the main
wiki page above asap.
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Java F/OSS
ng on the background you're after, from compiler
design books, over interactive introductions, to formal methods.
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there, you friendly ad hoc Fosdem meeting committee,
>>
Barebone ad-hoc Wiki page for planning:
http://wiki.debian.org/Java/DevJam/2009/Fosdem
More updates on talk slots, etc. as we go, but please do sign up already
if you know that you are coming - that'll make the Saturday/Sunday
dinner event planning simpler.
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m our user community at large, have
contributed to making it a success. Thank You!
Cool!
Congratulations!
Congrats from me as well, keep up the great work!
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Andrew John Hughes wrote:
2008/6/25 dalibor topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Well I suppose the question is more 'how much OpenJDK is needed to be
substantially derived?'
It's hard to draw a minimum requirement line, so I guess it'll be a
case-by-case decision, when
dalibor topic wrote:
Andrew John Hughes wrote:
Dalibor, could you give us something from Sun's side on this issue?
I'm not sure on which one:
* whether combining a GPLd VM with OpenJDK class library would be
sufficiently derived
as far ar the OCTLA goes?
Yes, please see the
time to do it right), so there is not much one can
really say about it.
If you are looking for a broader, independent evaluation of Sun's
attitude to GPLv3, Palamida, the site tracking GPLv3 conversions, lists
Sun as a significant adopter of GPLv3 in GPLv3's first six months, at
http://gpl3.blogspot.com/2007/12/gplv3-year-in-review.html
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lasspath's licensing
while the FSF is working on an update of the license, which will
hopefully be available for (public) review soon.
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s a good idea.
In particular on old systems / systems only with jikes as the bootstrap
option (Cygwin atm.).
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opt OpenJDK's policies,
just like they don't have to adopt
FSF's policies. So we're currently seeing several different approaches
being experimented with in different
VM projects, including OpenJDK, where Andrew is working on a stable VM
interface to make plugging
different VMs into OpenJDK easier.
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specific gtk+ L&F in GNU Classpath, afaik. CC:ing the
Classpath list for further comments.
I tried classpath head, but kaffe head would not compile. I ended up
using kaffe head with classpath 0.97.1.
Could you elaborate on that?
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way
is to correct it manually, adding -J-Xmx768M at the place where the
script invokes java virtual machine.
That fixed it. Classpath now compiles for me with ecj. Thanks!
Great! Thanks for packaging Classpath for OS X.
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eone
using that platform to take care of it, and update it to 0.97.1.
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aking sure your
distribution ships the latest one, and using that instead. :)
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of
documenting them properly.
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files into the classpath
java javax gnu org sun
directories, the build process should automatically detect them, and
consider them when rebuilding classpath.
If your libraries are in a different package, you need to add it to
lib/gen-classlist.sh.in
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nsparently on
win32.
* rewrite Qt peers using jambi
Our Qt peers are rotting away, and that means it's time for someone to
come in and rewrite them. Qt Jambi are the official bindings for Qt for
Java code, so it could be both fun and useful to rewrite our Qt based AWT
peers in pure Java.
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Alan Eliasen wrote:
Dalibor Topic wrote:
On a side note, Andrew Hughes has just cleaned up and merged in Raif's
patch, so it would be nice if you & Alan could give Classpath's CVS head
a shot and see if it works for you.
Thanks very much! I had hoped to be able to test it ou
Per Bothner wrote:
Dalibor Topic wrote:
Indeed. What I want though, is to see the GMP-based math code enter
GNU Classpath, so that it gets maintained collaboratively, and becomes
a shared feature among all the different GNU Classpath based VMs,
rather than something only Kaffe is good at
ork for you? A patch for now from me, and you taking the
lead on pushing Raif's code into Classpath?
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Dalibor Topic wrote:
Ian Rogers wrote:
Dalibor Topic wrote:
I'll be in Brussels from 12h on. So I'd either suggest meeting at
Hotel Barry at 12:30, or that we meet at Brussels Centraal train
station, (my train from Luxembourg arrives 11:47), grab some food,
and move over to Hote
Ian Rogers wrote:
Dalibor Topic wrote:
I'll be in Brussels from 12h on. So I'd either suggest meeting at
Hotel Barry at 12:30, or that we meet at Brussels Centraal train
station, (my train from Luxembourg arrives 11:47), grab some food, and
move over to Hotel Barry to hack o
Dalibor Topic wrote:
Andrew John Hughes wrote:
I'll be arriving at Midi about 4pm and then heading towards Hotel
Barry to checkin, so I can meet you there if that's where you're going
to start hacking. Dalibor, is your number still the same as for last
year? Mine is.
+4
Andrew John Hughes wrote:
I'll be arriving at Midi about 4pm and then heading towards Hotel
Barry to checkin, so I can meet you there if that's where you're going
to start hacking. Dalibor, is your number still the same as for last
year? Mine is.
+49 177 26 64 192.
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Dalibor Topic wrote:
Ian Rogers wrote:
Dalibor Topic wrote:
Andrew John Hughes wrote:
Thanks for organising this. I should arrive in Brussels around 4pm on
the Friday, so will probably be available around an hour from then I
guess (given time to find the hotel and check in, etc.). My
Ian Rogers wrote:
Dalibor Topic wrote:
Andrew John Hughes wrote:
Thanks for organising this. I should arrive in Brussels around 4pm on
the Friday, so will probably be available around an hour from then I
guess (given time to find the hotel and check in, etc.). My
preference would be for
bring mine along, and a checkout of the classpath, openjdk
and brandweg trees. ;)
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Christian Thalinger schrieb:
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 04:03 +0100, Dalibor Topic wrote:
This one turned out to be a lot more fun to track down.
It's pretty easy to rewrite the test whether to swap words in a jdouble:
put -0.0 into a jvalue's
jdouble element, and if the correspo
Christian Thalinger schrieb:
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 12:25 +0100, Dalibor Topic wrote:
Yeah, that's why I'd like to go step by step, and first slash the VM
interface methods I can slash, and
then implement it with ieee754.h as an option, (adding a #define
BIG_ENDIAN __BIG_ENDI
out time.
There are two easy options for locations:
a) squatting in someone's hotel (rooms) for a few hours (mhm, wifi!)
b) taking over a cafe downtown and doing the work there (mhm, waffles!)
or a combination of both (wifi & waffles!).
Preferences, ideas, etc?
fire away,
dalibor topic
Mario Torre wrote:
Il giorno ven, 08/02/2008 alle 18.33 +0100, Dalibor Topic ha scritto:
Does that sound like a useful build system change?
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Is something I also wanted to do, if no one object, I would go.
Please go for it.
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CVSROOT:/sources/classpath
Module name:classpath
Changes by: Dalibor Topic 08/02/08 18:40:49
Modified files:
. : ChangeLog NEWS
Log message:
2008-02-08 Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* NEWS: Documented remo
CVSROOT:/sources/classpath
Module name:classpath
Changes by: Dalibor Topic 08/02/08 18:34:55
Modified files:
. : ChangeLog
doc: cp-vmintegration.texinfo
include: java_lang_VMFloat.h
native/jni/java-lang
files from Classpath's CVS and tarball.
Does that sound like a useful build system change?
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Christian Thalinger schrieb:
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 00:26 +0100, Dalibor Topic wrote:
I've looked a bit closer at the 3 ARM OABI errors, in particular at the
errors in test/regression/DoubleConst.java . That test fails because we
get the bitstreams of the doubles being tested when we
Dalibor Topic wrote:
Dalibor Topic wrote:
My plan would be to look at making the interpreter pass on arm-oabi
and arm-eabi without failures, and then
to move on to the jits. I'd also like to see if I can rip out all the
atomic* code in Kaffe's config dirs by using glib's
a
Audrius Meskauskas wrote:
I will come, also. What about the beer? Or we should now be sad?
Awesome, make sure to add yourself to the wiki ... I am sure the beer
will be great as every year ;)
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?
Throwing more
people on a late project won't fix it ... :)
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with, other than contributing to the
discussion of different alternatives, as only Sun's engineers can really
know how their processes need to work
to fit well with what they are doing at their day jobs, beside OpenJDK
(the non-open JDK product, for example).
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[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_wall
this year.
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/Java/DevJam/2008/ you will need to register on
the Debian wiki as a user first http://wiki.debian.org/UserPreferences
before you are allowed to edit the page.
Thanks, Mark, I'll be there!
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Andrew John Hughes wrote:
> We are proud to announce the release of GNU Classpath 0.96 "Staying Alive"
>
Coming a little late, but nevertheless:
Thanks to Andrew and team for the release!
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FSF's licensing and compliance lab.
They can help you figure out how the GNU Classpath license works in your
specific usage scenario, much faster than constructing hypothetical
examples on this mailing list can.
Please consult http://www.fsf.org/licensing for details on how to
request their services.
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Andrew John Hughes wrote:
On Wednesday 19 September 2007 13:07:01 Dalibor Topic wrote:
Dâniel Fraga wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:27:15 +0100
I mean, I know I can use gcjwebplugin, but it doesn't work for
all cases, all applets etc. Now that Java was GPLed, how much time will
it
CVSROOT:/sources/classpath
Module name:classpath
Changes by: Dalibor Topic 07/09/21 18:05:22
Modified files:
. : ChangeLog
gnu/CORBA : IorDelegate.java
gnu/CORBA/CDR : AbstractCdrInput.java Vio.java
gnu/CORBA/DynAn
Dalibor Topic wrote:
Are there any daily snapshots available via http or ftp?
Yes. Take a look at http://builder.classpath.org/dist/ .
I've added this to the wiki at
http://developer.classpath.org/mediation/ClasspathFirstSteps#head-9b1d9d73255384bbf12c9639829a748fb82a9490
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da
er code to aid porting efforts, consumer JRE, JCK process,
...).
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hots available via http or ftp?
Yes. Take a look at http://builder.classpath.org/dist/ .
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Dalibor Topic kaffe.org> writes:
... and I should really fix this machine's clock skew one day! ;)
open letters, so I'd hope that the JSR spec leads at IBM, Intel,
Apache, Sun, Red Hat, Google, BEA, Oracle, etc. take that into account
for their current and next JSRs.
--Dalibor Topic, April 11, 2007 07:28 AM'
For more information from me on my attempt to get the TCK, see
http://ww
nt fashion, please take
a few seconds to click on it & have your opinion counted.
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http://today.java.net/pub/pq/155
Having them as open source would help Gentoo so please cast your vote.
Regards,
Petteri
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Gentoo/Java lead.
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CVSROOT:/sources/classpath
Module name:classpath
Changes by: Dalibor Topic 07/04/19 13:42:47
Modified files:
. : ChangeLog
tools : gappletviewer.in gjar.in gjarsigner.in
gjavah.in gkeytool.in gnative2ascii.in
David Daney wrote:
Dalibor Topic wrote:
Hi all,
I'm currently playing around with various little things around the
build system, and came across our
INSTALL file.
I'd like to move it into the doc directory and turn into a texinfo
file, like gcc's install.texi. T
, putting it on the web,
having clickable URLs, etc.
Any objections?
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, putting it on the web,
having clickable URLs, etc.
Any objections?
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ffe is checked in. :)
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ees.
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forum for this? Shall we just post to the list?
>
> Looking forward to seeing you all there,
+44 7776 208373
+49 177 26 64 192 ... and I'd suggest putting one's info up on the wiki,
as well, if one's into maximal distribution. :)
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Christian Thalinger wrote:
Happy birthday to us! And lets see what the next 10 years will bring...
Congrats on the new architectures, happy 10th birthday, and all the best
for the next 10 years!
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Alfred M. Szmidt, Andreas Tobler, Anthony Green,
Bryce McKinlay, Casey Marshall, Craig Rodrigues, Daiki Ueno, Dalibor
Topic, DJ Delorie, Geoffrey Keating, Gerald Pfeifer, Hans-Peter Nilsson,
H.J. Lu, Jakub Jelinek, John David Anglin, Joseph S. Myers, Kaveh R.
Ghazi, Kelley Cook, Marcin Dalecki, Matth
Jeroen Frijters wrote:
Dalibor Topic wrote:
Blake Meike wrote:
Dalibor Topic wrote:
I assume you've run into the same gcc3 vs. gcc4 issue that
Kelvin ran
into with 1.1.7. It's been fixed in CVS, indeed.
I spoke too soon. Everything s
Blake Meike wrote:
Dalibor Topic wrote:
I assume you've run into the same gcc3 vs. gcc4 issue that Kelvin ran
into with 1.1.7. It's been fixed in CVS, indeed.
I spoke too soon. Everything seems to be working just fine, but two
of the Unit Tests failed:
FAIL: TestSerialVer
le
glibj.zip file, or
two of them is not much of a difference, I guess. But I'm not sure I've
seen the benefit of
having a separate glue JAR laid out.
Could you elaborate some more on your idea?
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etc. and I think the ones packaged in Cygwin are a bit
older than
what's required. There are some hints how to get those dependencies updated,
and installed in this gcc bug report:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gcc.bugs/169595/match=classpath+cygwin
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gnu.regexp.RE.makeCharIndexed(RE.java:2086)
Looks weird to me, I thought the regexp package moved to
gnu.java.util.regexp ?
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today: we could use class loader magic
to detect the version of ASM and then do the Right Thing. Eww...
Andrew
I've got an import of ASM in Kaffe, conveniently named asm153
to match the version of asm required by the then version of what
needed it, without causing potential trouble on the $CLASSPATH as
such things tend to do.
So, importing ASM would be fine for me.
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;d like to suggest that we merge the generics branch to
HEAD, following
the branch for 0.93 (making 0.93 the last non-generics version of GNU
Classpath, and 0.94 the first generics one).
What do people think?
That would be great!
Yes, please!
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,
though, I figured it was worth asking if anyone knows of a Free
implementation of this unpack200 thingumy.
I believe Alex Blewitt was working on it in the context of Harmony. I'm
not sure how far along he is, but asking won't hurt :)
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linh wrote:
I don't know why and how to do it. Please help me. Thank you very much.
Hi linh, please try again using the jikes compiler and pass --with-jikes
to configure.
Good luck,
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http://www.dacapobench.org/
Great! Many thanks to Steve and the DaCapo team for putting the work
into it.
Could this go on builder.classpath.org?
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d issues should be decided on
> a case by case basis, but considering the spec holy is not doing anybody
> any service.
>
Being someone who'd consider the specs holy in the past, I'd agree with
that assesment.
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> Regards,
> Jeroen
/07/17/HNjavaopen_1.html
>
thank you for the information. It's nice to see that there is progress
on all sides.
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> Greatings
> theuserbl
>
>
>
le
> make/automake stuff, so yes I am ashamed because of this mail ;-)
No need to be. The (auto)make is there to help us get stuff done, it's
not the main feature of GNU Classpath. ;)
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g/wiki/How%20to%20BC%20compile%20with%20GCJ for
details. Don't forget to pass gcj -O3 for the best effect. :)
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> > On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 09:33 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> Hi Mark,
> >> firecat runs on Kaffe 1.1.7(GNU Classpath 0.90) with
create some wrappers to make JamVM look like a JDK).
>
> What architecture is sandbox.nihonsoft.org? I wonder why SableVM was
> ok, but not kaffe.
I'd guess it is one of the intrp arches of Kaffe, amd64 or powerpc, for
example.
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ve,
you need to patch jikes first. See
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27307
for details. You could also ask on the Cygwin mailing list if the jikes
package could be updated with the patch in question.
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term goal, I'd still like to
> Jeroen> get rid of the Configuration class altogether, but I don't
> Jeroen> know if others support that goal too ;-)
>
> Yeah, I do.
/me too.
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>
> Tom
>
as licensed. That's very similar to
how GNU Classpath works.
If you want to contribute to both, that's easily possible, as the
way both projects are set up allows for it nicely. It just means
following the proper legal procedures for each project, which are
actually somewhat different.
c
lot of momentum,
going with 1.7 would mean two more years of letting GNU Classpath &
Harmony grow further. It'll be fun to watch, anyway, the Java melodrama
is still entertaining.
There is room for everyone, Sun, FSF, ASF in the Java space. The
assumption that GNU Classpath loses because Harmony gains contributions,
or vice versa, is flawed, imho.
If Sun plays their cards well, they could end up with a strong position
making alternative efforts less attractive to JCP members. It's always
hard to predict what Sun will do, though. :)
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> Greatings
> theuserbl
>
>
>
ading a tough fight against
evil cynics inside Sun to get the GPL considered?
FWIW, GPL would be great for merging their code with Kaffe. :)
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> Greatings
> theuserbl
>
>
>
s with kaffe (which has a jvmpi implementation), afaik.
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> Some programs like Protege seem having places that are executed
> unusually slowly. It would be great to do at least some profiling. There
> are many profiling tools, and there are Free profiling tools also,
out for your specific setup and
toolchain:
http://www.coyotegulch.com/products/acovea/index.html
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JMF atm. Currently, I know of TV apps (vdr-kaffe plugin, and
such), XSmiles (which has a JMF backed for Xine) and OpenOffice.org (for
multimedia content in presentatins, afair).
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On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 15:14 -0500, Archie Cobbs wrote:
> Dalibor Topic wrote:
> > functions. Some of those are a little odd, for example it is not clear
> > to me what to do if JNI function call ThrowNew fails. rats and
>
> Good question.. I think the only reasonable answer i
ants to go ahead from here with a full scale security audit
of the C code, I hope this e-mail helps them get started.
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[1] http://www.striker.ottawa.on.ca/~aland/pscan/
[2] http://www.dwheeler.com/flawfinder/
[3] http://www.securesw.com/rats
[4] http://splint.org
new/ref/unref for
gobjects. We seem to be dealing with both sorts, judging by a quick grep
through the code.
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t may be a bit of work, though. and you'd still need to fix the old
Kaffe AWT code to work with different peer model in GNU Classpath, among
other things.
I am not saying it's impossible, but no one who embarked on that
adventure came back with a fully working patch yet.
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On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 16:45 -0500, Anthony Balkissoon wrote:
> Attached is the start of the new Mauve test harness I've been working
> on. The features that are present so far include:
It sounds great, thank you for your work!
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On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 16:19 +0100, Audrius Meskauskas wrote:
> My suggestion to speak about the GNU Classpath in the Linuxdays.ch,
> Geneve, was accepted. GNU Classpath will be presented in that
> conference.
Congratulations!
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On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 11:09:12AM -0800, Casey Marshall wrote:
> On Mar 21, 2006, at 7:04 AM, Dalibor Topic wrote:
>
> >On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 11:27:41AM +0100, Christian Thalinger wrote:
> >>On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 00:21 -0800, Casey Marshall wrote:
> >>>Note, C
se darwin structures), but so far:
> >
> >* Boehm-GC crashes (0.95 release).
>
> Hmm, problem.
>
Kaffe has been ported to i386-darwin a while ago. Could you give it
a try, too? It uses its own gc & ffi on that platform.
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> >* You ca
I hope we can
> include some of our stuff so visitors will have an easy way to try some
> things out. It will probably have to be based on existing Debian
> packages (so get your stuff packaged!), but I will let you know when I
> get more info.
Thanks for the information. I assume it will be Knoppix?
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> Cheers,
>
> Mark
> Do you have opinions?
I'd go for antlr, since it is pretty cool, and being used in gjdoc
already.
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On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:20:02AM -0800, Per Bothner wrote:
> Dalibor Topic wrote:
> >The only way GNU Classpath would be acceptable for Apache Harmony, afaict
> >from
> >our dicussions in the past year, would be if the FSF contributed it to the
> >ASF,
> >a
only way GNU Classpath would be acceptable for Apache Harmony, afaict from
our dicussions in the past year, would be if the FSF contributed it to the ASF,
and had the ASF manage the project, under the Apache license. Anything else is
non-option for ASF, for a variety of reasons.
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On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 06:49:12PM -0800, Casey Marshall wrote:
> On Mar 9, 2006, at 6:51 PM, Dalibor Topic wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 13:54 -0800, Casey Marshall wrote:
> >
> >>Nope. Classpath has had support for *verifying* signed jar files for
> >>
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