Hi,
Wanted to mention two more languages, that might be interesting:
Hy: http://docs.hylang.org/en/latest/ (Lisp that targets Python's AST, has
Clojure flavoured syntax)
newLISP: http://www.newlisp.org/ (at least FFI seems simple:
http://www.newlisp.org/newlisp_manual.html#import)
- Kimmo
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Hi Alan,
Don't be deterred - it's a great question... Some people are just having a
separate conversation in the one thread ;)
I think there is a threshold in your domain, which gives a different answer
on each side.
The easy side is for something RaspberryPi or Arduino-sized (or bigger),
where
Hello
I'm currently trying to wrap org.apache.commons.math3.complex
http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-math/apidocs/org/apache/commons/math3/complex/Complex.html
to make a complex number library and I have a problem. Many of the
methods won't work with all Clojure number types. For example
I'd really like to see some sort of indexed infrastructure for documenting
and standardising common patterns and anti-patterns on various levels –
think Stack Exchange, but preemptive. I think this would go a long way
toward helping newcomers and spreading good practices.
On 30 April 2015 at 23:31
If any Clojurians will be at Streaming Media East or just local to NYC and
would like to do a mini-meetup at the New York Hilton Midtown on 5/10 in
the evening let me know. Would be nice to meet up and have a few drinks and
talk Clojure. I can organize if there is some interest.
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Hi Alan
Excuse me if I didn't understand your question, but I think a type hint
would solve. Maybe you could abstract this for the final user in Clojure.
(.add (Complex. 1.0 2.0) ^double 2)
On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Alan Forrester <
alanmichaelforres...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hello
>
>
You could just convert any Number into a Double:
(if (number? x) (double x) x)
Or create a protocol for the conversion. If you're concerned about
performance, measure the result with a benchmarking library like Criterium.
- James
On 2 May 2015 at 12:53, Alan Forrester
wrote:
> Hello
>
> I
I recently did some research into web frameworks on Github. Here's what
I found:
FRAMEWORK LANG CONTRIBUTORS COMMITS
LuminusClojure28678
CaribouClojure 2275
BeegoGolang991522
Phoenix
On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 4:43:53 PM UTC-4, g vim wrote:
>
> I recently did some research into web frameworks on Github. Here's what
> I found:
>
>
> FRAMEWORK LANG CONTRIBUTORS COMMITS
>
> LuminusClojure28678
> CaribouClojure
On 02/05/2015 22:06, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
Those numbers aren't going to be an apples-to-apples comparison.
"Contributors" may be lower for the Clojure libs because as a Lisp it
enables them to be enormously more productive (up to 10x) than the other
languages. The greater expressiveness allows
On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 5:12:01 PM UTC-4, g vim wrote:
>
> On 02/05/2015 22:06, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
> >
> > Those numbers aren't going to be an apples-to-apples comparison.
> > "Contributors" may be lower for the Clojure libs because as a Lisp it
> > enables them to be enormously more pro
On 02/05/2015 22:25, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
Ah, but none of them are Lisps. No macros, no DSLs, and thus much less
of the productivity/code-size-efficiency gains.
Elixir's macros are quite Lispy under the hood and all 3 languages can
arguably generate sophisticated DSLs. I'm as much a fan of
On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 5:36:45 PM UTC-4, g vim wrote:
>
> On 02/05/2015 22:25, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
> >
> > Ah, but none of them are Lisps. No macros, no DSLs, and thus much less
> > of the productivity/code-size-efficiency gains.
> >
>
> Elixir's macros are quite Lispy under the hood an
Hi,
I'm building a system which handles data synchronization with remote
services. The credentials and configuration parameters for the remote
services are stored in the database. I'd like to be able to build a
component which is constructed from the information from the database and
uses comp
Excuse me, Fluid. I have to agree with gvim.
But I have the same impression. I think the state of Clojure development
for web is quite immature if you compare with other languages.
To be clear, I could spend lines and lines talking about all the high
quality Clojure library related to web applica
On 2 May 2015 at 21:43, gvim wrote:
> One could conclude from this that the Clojure community isn't that
> interested in web development but the last Clojure survey suggests
> otherwise. Clojure's library composition approach to everything only goes
> so far with large web applications, as Aaron
I disagree with the premise entirely. I think that the Clojure community
has just done a better job of building smaller, more modular tooling. And
this is frankly something I prefer, and find refreshing in the Clojure
sphere (as compared with my previous Rails webdev experience).
Note that to p
On 03/05/2015 00:39, James Reeves wrote:
I agree that web development in Clojure can be improved, but I don't see
why it follows that we should be writing web frameworks.
Luminus is a web framework. We don't have to write web frameworks at
all, that's true. Neither did the Ruby community. They
On 03/05/2015 00:53, Christopher Small wrote:
I disagree with the premise entirely. I think that the Clojure community
has just done a better job of building smaller, more modular tooling.
And this is frankly something I prefer, and find refreshing in the
Clojure sphere (as compared with my previ
Business case...
I have two business cases at hand.
None can be done with frameworks w/o making the end products look like any
other one in their respective space and having to bend to framework limitations.
Being disruptive requires a different approach.
Having to write all these individual
For rails sure. What about Elixer & Yesod? Those could be just as modular
for all I know... I'm just saying that one way or the other, those things
should be taken into account since they are important.
OO junk leads to bloat.
On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 5:15 PM, gvim wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 00:53, C
On 03/05/2015 01:37, Luc Prefontaine wrote:
Business case...
I have two business cases at hand.
None can be done with frameworks w/o making the end products look like any
other one in their respective space and having to bend to framework limitations.
Being disruptive requires a different app
On 3 May 2015 at 01:02, gvim wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 00:39, James Reeves wrote:
>
>>
>> I agree that web development in Clojure can be improved, but I don't see
>> why it follows that we should be writing web frameworks.
>>
>> Luminus is a web framework. We don't have to write web frameworks at
>
On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 1:43 PM, gvim wrote:
> One could conclude from this that the Clojure community isn't that
> interested in web development but the last Clojure survey suggests
> otherwise.
Yes, lots of web apps get built with Clojure.
> Furthermore, I have a hunch that Clojure's poor ad
Hi Clojure 1.7 folks,
I'm trying to port Fipp to ClojureScript with .cljc files and feature
expressions. My first step was to rename files from .clj to .cljc, but
doing that broke my code. I'm not exactly sure what's wrong, but before I
dig any further
Is simply renaming .clj to .cljc file
Upgrading a couple of projects to 1.7 seems to have gone quite smoothly.
Thanks!
However, I've encountered some problems with new features, like .cljc files.
Please see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/clojure/TrYkq1lUuZw
Cheers,
Brandon
On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 11:27:34 AM UTC-7, A
What is a web framework?
On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 9:43:53 PM UTC+1, g vim wrote:
>
> I recently did some research into web frameworks on Github. Here's what
> I found:
>
>
> FRAMEWORK LANG CONTRIBUTORS COMMITS
>
> LuminusClojure28678
> Cari
There should be no ill effect from simply renaming from clj to cljc. What error
are you seeing?
Please also consider whether something in your tool chain is at fault. For
example, if the cljc files are not getting properly packaged or included in the
classpath then there may need to be changed
Last week, at the Clojure/West conference, someone (I think it was Brandon
Bloom) summed up the general vibe well, by saying something along the lines
of, "We now have all the pieces in place to make web development an order
of magnitude more productive than in any other language, we just need to
f
Not really related. But I just want to chime in to say I love this quote from
Fluid in regards to the DSL bit:
"Under the hood" is a delicate way of saying "not homoiconic", whereby 90% of
the benefit goes away.
+1 to that!
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On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Mark Engelberg
wrote:
> Clojure is great for creating new, disruptive web models, but what's the
> easiest path to creating something that can be done trivially with, say,
> Drupal or Django?
>
The question tho' is why you'd want to use Clojure for something that
Because many problems start out as things that can be solved with standard
solutions and then evolve into something more elaborate. Best to start
with something that can both do the easy things, and handle the more
complex stuff as well.
On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
> On
On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Mark Engelberg
wrote:
> Because many problems start out as things that can be solved with standard
> solutions and then evolve into something more elaborate. Best to start
> with something that can both do the easy things, and handle the more
> complex stuff as w
>Clojure needs a web framework with more momentum
Some people make a big technology decision based on " TechEmpower Framework
Benchmarks (TFB)" (round10)
[ https://www.techempower.com/blog/2015/04/21/framework-benchmarks-round-10/
]
Should techempower.com framework benchmarks be taken seriously ?
Hi,
Reading through all the discussion I don't get which features you are
actually missing. I love luminus and did a lot with it, however, for me it
was missing some standard stuff, that's why I put together closp, which is
just another leiningen template providing some more features out of the
Because, in my case, I'm going to need a website shortly that I can use to
sell Cursive. I'd really like to use Clojure for that. I could use Rails or
Django which would make the site itself trivial, except I don't know either
of them and then I'm stuck maintaining something in a language and
frame
Short version: Old version of the lib was on the classpath.
Longer version: `lein with-profiles -user whatevertask` to disable the user
profile apparently doesn't work.
I was using:
export CLASSPATH=$(lein with-profiles -user classpath) java clojure.main
Figured I had ruled out my tools, since
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