Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Mike Meyer
mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org wrote:
Ditto. Most often, the code site is the sole project site, and
everything is there. Some larger projects may have a separate home
page, but it's always prominently
Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Mike Meyer
mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org wrote:
Sure, Sturgeon's law is closer to 99% than 90% for the web. But if
you don't even look at the right page to start with
That is why I say it behooves projects that
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Mike Meyer
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Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
That is why I say it behooves projects that wish to grow a large
user-base to have a highly-ranked google result be clearly the place
for prospective end-users to go
Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Mike Meyer
mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org wrote:
Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
That is why I say it behooves projects that wish to grow a large
user-base to have a highly-ranked google result be clearly the
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Mike Meyer
mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org wrote:
Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Mike Meyer
mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org wrote:
Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
That is why I say it behooves
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 13:38:24 -0500
Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Mike Meyer
mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org wrote:
Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Mike Meyer
mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Mike Meyer
mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org wrote:
Not until after they go there once or twice, find confusing project
pages with no clear starting point for prospective end users, and form
an opinion of the site. :)
Yup. Those pages are about as well
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 13:51:40 -0500
Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Mike Meyer
mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org wrote:
Not until after they go there once or twice, find confusing project
pages with no clear starting point for prospective end
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Mike Meyer
mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 13:51:40 -0500
Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
But that's neglecting a crucial biasing factor: with project-hosting
sites it's very easy to just slap together a few text blurbs
Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/1/20 Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Rayne disciplera...@gmail.com
wrote:
Aren't you a developer?
I'm not a CCW developer.
If a code.google link is the top of google results, that's what I'm
going to click
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Mike Meyer
mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org wrote:
Ditto. Most often, the code site is the sole project site, and everything
is there. Some larger projects may have a separate home page, but it's
always prominently mentioned on the code site. In
2011/1/25 NovusTiro novust...@gmail.com:
Hello,
Seems like this might be a good time to say thanks to Laurent for all
the work he's done on CCW. FWIW, I've been using it for a while, and
never had any issues installing it (at least not from a clean
Eclipse), nor any of the other described
Hello,
Seems like this might be a good time to say thanks to Laurent for all
the work he's done on CCW. FWIW, I've been using it for a while, and
never had any issues installing it (at least not from a clean
Eclipse), nor any of the other described issues.
So thanks Laurent, and keep up the
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
Which tempts me to ask why you decided to bring it up again? :)
Because the topic arose again.
Because _you_ brought the topic up again.
Did you expect a different outcome this time?
You know what they say about madness
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
Which tempts me to ask why you decided to bring it up again? :)
Because the topic arose again.
Because _you_ brought the topic up again.
Did
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Chas Emerick cemer...@snowtide.com wrote:
The links to the users' and developers' google groups for ccw are
prominently linked on the right side of the ccw site:
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
http://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/
And that URL is the #1 Google result for: clojure eclipse
And looks to CCW newbies like it's likely to just lead to a code
repository, tracker, and CCW-developer-centric mailing
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
(and this discussion has occurred before about the discoverability of
IDE documentation with much the same content and result)
It has indeed.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Chas Emerick cemer...@snowtide.com wrote:
The links to the users' and developers' google groups for ccw are prominently
linked on the right side of the ccw site:
http://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/
And that URL is the #1 Google result for: clojure
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Rayne disciplera...@gmail.com wrote:
Aren't you a developer?
I'm not a CCW developer.
If a code.google link is the top of google results, that's what I'm
going to click and check out first. code.google is a project hosting
site, not just a place to throw up
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Luc Prefontaine
lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca wrote:
Not reading wiki pages available, not investigating available links
about ccw are more a sign of mental laziness than anything else or
some form of disdain.
Or, they can be a sign of not having been pointed to
2011/1/20 Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Rayne disciplera...@gmail.com wrote:
Aren't you a developer?
I'm not a CCW developer.
If a code.google link is the top of google results, that's what I'm
going to click and check out first. code.google is a project
You have been asked kindly to change your tone.
Are you implying a threat?
The next part of your post seemed to descend into name-calling, more
threats, and other unconstructive material, so I did not bother to
read further.
Have a good day.
Nobody is implying any threats. They are simply
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/1/20 Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Rayne disciplera...@gmail.com wrote:
Aren't you a developer?
I'm not a CCW developer.
If a code.google link is the top of google results,
Issuing threats against you ?
Chasing a fly with a news paper has more value than spending time
with you for any purpose.
You clearly do not understand what a lot of people have been telling
you in different ways.
Ignoring you is a much more rational use of my time.
Others should come to the
2011/1/20 Aaron Bedra aaron.be...@gmail.com
Dropped a lot of raaather ininteresting stuff
Cheers,
Aaron Bedra
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Aaron,
From your signature, where I see Clojure/core, I thought that you were
maybe a core member of the clojure community.
But how
Seriously, Aaron, there's a typo in your signature.
Take care ;)
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Yep, just fixed that :)
Cheers,
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On 01/20/2011 09:36 AM, Laurent PETIT wrote:
Seriously, Aaron, there's a typo in your signature.
Take care ;)
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Luc Prefontaine
lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca wrote:
Chasing a fly with a news paper has more value than spending time
with you for any purpose.
...
Oups, need to flush that junk folder again... crap appeared in it
again.
And some people are claiming that *I*
On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Laurent PETIT wrote:
2011/1/20 Aaron Bedra aaron.be...@gmail.com
Clojure/core
http://clojure.comcl
the url of the website below your title does not work.
http://clojure.com
I don't think it's that hard to figure out. Personally, I'd rather he continue
to
On 01/20/2011 10:15 AM, Ken Wesson wrote:
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Luc Prefontaine
lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca wrote:
Chasing a fly with a news paper has more value than spending time
with you for any purpose.
...
Oups, need to flush that junk folder again... crap appeared in it
I've been using ccw for a while now and it works perfectly as
advertised. Plus the new 0.2.0 version looks to be really promising. I
invite all ccw users to give their inputs.
What's bugging is not that you faced a problem or that ccw didn't work
as you expected, what's disturbing is how you
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:14 PM, ka sancha...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been using ccw for a while now and it works perfectly as
advertised. Plus the new 0.2.0 version looks to be really promising. I
invite all ccw users to give their inputs.
What's bugging is not that you faced a problem or that
Hi Mr. Bell, allow me to introduce you to Mr. Sarcasm. :p
On Jan 20, 9:32 am, Peter Bell pe...@pbell.com wrote:
On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Laurent PETIT wrote:
2011/1/20 Aaron Bedra aaron.be...@gmail.com
Clojure/core
http://clojure.comcl
the url of the website below your title does
2011/1/19 Meikel Brandmeyer m...@kotka.de
Hi,
On 19 Jan., 00:28, Luc Prefontaine lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca
wrote:
Can you provide the plugin list from Eclipse ? (About - Installation
details)
A while back I ran into a similar problem: a fresh install of eclipse
+ only ccw didn't
2011/1/18 Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Chas Emerick cemer...@snowtide.com
wrote:
Any tone you might have picked up from Laurent might be a reaction to
your ranting about how ccw is apparently rubbish rather than asking for
help.
Well, excse me for
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/1/18 Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Chas Emerick cemer...@snowtide.com
wrote:
Any tone you might have picked up from Laurent might be a reaction to
your ranting about how
Aren't you a developer? I am. I think everybody else here is as well.
If a code.google link is the top of google results, that's what I'm
going to click and check out first. code.google is a project hosting
site, not just a place to throw up code and developer discussion. It
offers wiki services,
Ken,
It's always easy to complain and you seem excellent at it.
However, to investigate any problem, hard facts are needed to
support the fixing process.
There are little facts reported in your emails about the problems you
experienced according to you regarding ccw.
Not reading wiki pages
I'm big, mean and I hate prima donnas. You would not even try to use that
tone with a guy like me.
I can vouch for that!
Regards,
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2011/1/19 Luc Prefontaine lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca
Ken,
It's always easy to complain and you seem excellent at it.
However, to investigate any problem, hard facts are needed to
support the fixing process.
There are little facts reported in your emails about the problems you
experienced
I decided to test-drive CCW to see if it had leapfrogged Enclojure.
Apparently not: whereas it was quick and easy to get NB 6.9.1 and
Enclojure installed, create a new Clojure project, and get a REPL,
trying the same with Eclipse and CCW rapidly hit a snag.
The Eclipse download went without a
Hi,
2011/1/18 Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com
I decided to test-drive CCW to see if it had leapfrogged Enclojure.
Apparently not: whereas it was quick and easy to get NB 6.9.1 and
Enclojure installed, create a new Clojure project, and get a REPL,
trying the same with Eclipse and CCW rapidly
2011/1/18 Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com
Hi,
2011/1/18 Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com
I decided to test-drive CCW to see if it had leapfrogged Enclojure.
Apparently not: whereas it was quick and easy to get NB 6.9.1 and
Enclojure installed, create a new Clojure project, and get a
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
No menu options exist to create a
new Clojure namespace .clj file,
It does. You should see an option Clojure File in the File Create new
menu.
I don't.
If not, then probably there's a problem with the java
2011/1/18 Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
No menu options exist to create a
new Clojure namespace .clj file,
It does. You should see an option Clojure File in the File Create
new
menu.
I don't.
If
For what it's worth, I installed CCW on Eclipse Helios on Win7
yesterday and it works perfectly. Thanks Laurent!
On Jan 18, 9:27 am, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/1/18 Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Laurent PETIT
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
That's a bit snarky. But no-one should have to read the documentation
just to get it installed and to locate and use the most obvious
features that have direct parallels in Enclojure. In particular,
no-one has to
On Jan 18, 2011, at 3:22 AM, Ken Wesson wrote:
I could use the new-generic-file option to create files with the .clj
extension and maybe I'd even get Clojure syntax highlighting and
indenting in the editor if I did so; I didn't bother to check. Lack of
any apparent way to launch a project
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Chas Emerick cemer...@snowtide.com wrote:
Any tone you might have picked up from Laurent might be a reaction to your
ranting about how ccw is apparently rubbish rather than asking for help.
Well, excse me for assuming, quite reasonably, that if, after an
On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Ken Wesson wrote:
Tangentially, IMO it'd be nice if tooling troubleshooting discussions didn't
hit this list at all, since there are presumably mailing lists and other
forums specific to each toolset.
Your email is the first place that I encountered the url
We have been using ccw for more than a year here. Never had significant
problems with it nor with updates to it.
We have been using Eclipse since 2002.
Can you provide the plugin list from Eclipse ? (About - Installation
details)
Luc P.
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:21:50 -0500
Ken Wesson
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Chas Emerick cemer...@snowtide.com wrote:
On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Ken Wesson wrote:
Tangentially, IMO it'd be nice if tooling troubleshooting discussions
didn't hit this list at all, since there are presumably mailing lists and
other forums specific to
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Luc Prefontaine
lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca wrote:
We have been using ccw for more than a year here. Never had significant
problems with it nor with updates to it.
We have been using Eclipse since 2002.
Can you provide the plugin list from Eclipse ? (About -
On Jan 18, 9:14 pm, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Chas Emerick cemer...@snowtide.com wrote:
On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Ken Wesson wrote:
Tangentially, IMO it'd be nice if tooling troubleshooting discussions
didn't hit this list at all, since
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:36 PM, blcooley blcoo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 18, 9:14 pm, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Chas Emerick cemer...@snowtide.com wrote:
The links to the users' and developers' google groups for ccw are
prominently linked on
Hi,
On 19 Jan., 00:28, Luc Prefontaine lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca
wrote:
Can you provide the plugin list from Eclipse ? (About - Installation
details)
A while back I ran into a similar problem: a fresh install of eclipse
+ only ccw didn't work on my machine. Mysteriously using the same
files
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