Is there a reason you can't tee off the intake for the head instead? Then
you are teeing off an intake.
Ken H.
On 18 February 2014 14:06, Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all. Something I've been wanting a while is a washdown pump. We're on a
mooring and the Toronto waterfront
FYI: I think most people elect for an aluminum or fibercast tank for marine
installations. It looks like those are all steel. Are you still planning
to carry it to a shore based filling station?
Josh
On Feb 18, 2014 10:43 PM, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net wrote:
As my boat is 3-1/2
On my Landfall 38 I have tee'd into the thru hull for the engine intake,
installed a dedicated strainer (because we have sea nettles on the bay that
create pump blockages), and a ShurFlo pump. I have two faucets--one on the bow
and one in the cockpit. It works great!
Bob
Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy
I have the standard propane locker under the helm seat and it holds two 10-lb
aluminum tanks. Two 10-lb tanks easily last an entire summer season for me,
using propane every weekend. When I cruised the Bahamas, one tank would last
about 4-6 weeks as I recall. I can't see any reason for
Fred:
I have two ten pound aluminum tanks that just fit in the locker. They are,
according to
https://www.propanetankstore.com/shop/10-lb-2-4-gallon-aluminum-marine-cylinder-with-opd-and-fill-valve/,
10.38 inches in diameter and a tight fit at that. I can't see getting the
Manchester unit in.
Steve et al,
Have you considered using an ipad with Navionics or another brand of software?
Tom Anderson
CC 32 Nonpareil
Marblehead MA
81 days to launch
9 days to BVI cruise
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Hey Tom,
I used an iPad (retina 3rd gen, 3G model) with navionics on our trip across
the lake to the thousand islands last summer. Worked like a charm.
Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Nonpareil Racing
t...@nonpareilracing.comwrote:
Steve et al,
Have you
I use OpenCPN on my laptop and Navionics on my iPhone. Both work quite well
IMHO. SeaClear is also a good choice for real old low power laptops.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
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On deliveries I use every piece of equipment available. On my own boat, I
have radar and an old plotter. On both the iPad is my go-to nav unit. On my
boat, when I'm anchored and in my bunk I can instantly check whether I'm
dragging with a glance at my iPad. On deliveries, when I'm off watch, I can
Bought a RAM mount for the IPAD. Waiting on a cover. Zip-lock for now!
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Nate Flesness nateflesn...@gmail.comwrote:
what waterproof cover and/or pedestal mount are you happy with?
Thinking about doing the same thing...
Nate
Sarah Jean
On my 34+, I have a T (Y-valve) in the line for the head bowl rinse intake. The
pump is 2 feet downstream of the Y-valve, and the wash down line runs to a hose
fitting on the bow. I use it primarily for washing the anchor and chain and
deck cleanup around the anchor locker.
Monty
Scandia
1991
I found a great budget system, DIGINAV, that has all U.S. charts and a
plug-in USB GPS module that I use with an old laptop.
Total package was well under $100 with the GPS module. The only downside
is that it stays at the nav station, not at the helm.
Bill Hartman
MYSTY
1986 Landfall
Simply put, if you use a thru-hull that is open to the air, i.e. drain or
scupper, for a high volume pump such as a wash down pump, the pump might
suck air. Using a thru-hull that is not open to the air is better.
If you use a sink drain, you can always put a stopper in it.
Dennis C.
On Wed,
I have an iPad with Navionics but still find some shortcomings (a) the
software doesn't do very much except tell you where you are (b) the iPad is
not sunlight readable and (c) not waterproof. I am a bit surprised by the
level of enthusiasm among this expert group - surely a purpose built helm
Yes, I’ve had aluminum tanks in the past. They’re really spendy compared to
the steel. Remember that I’m in fresh water up here, so a well-coated steel
tank will last a long time.
The biggest issue with the propane locker on the LF38 is finding tanks of the
right size/shape to get the most
On Feb 19, 2014, at 6:56 AM, Robert Boyer dainyr...@icloud.com wrote:
I can't see any reason for carrying more propane…
We tend to run the Dickinson propane heater a bit more up here than you would
in the Bahamas… :^)
I would be glad to make these measurements for you this weekend, if we
You're right about the sunlight, Roger, but the software does everything I
need it to do, including showing course lines, speed, COG, and bearings. I
can use it for routing, too.
I think having a plotter at the helm is nice, but far from necessary; I
grew up sailing around Vancouver Island
The problem with an expensive helm mounted chart plotter is that it'll be
old news in a few years. I'm not keen on spending ~$1500 or more on a chart
plotter that will be old tech a few years from now. The iPad does so much
more than navigation and is half the price. Sure, you can't read it easily
Although not navigation software ( I have iNax also ) I sometimes like to
play around with iRegatta Pro on my iPad. I'm not a racer but it has
interesting start timers and start line tactical information . I got it out
of curiosity as it draws polars for your boat. To do this it needs to be fed
Steve,
The new Ray software allows you to use free charts, at least in the US.
They have an Ipad app so you can control the plotter from the IPad and use
the IPad as a second display anywhere on the boat. I have both Garmin and
Navionics on the IPad as a back up. Offshore I'll have a laptop
And the Ray a75 plotter is around $1000 (less than the $1500 mentioned),
including Navionics comprehensive charts that can be updated. Or you can
download all the free charts Raymarine has just announced along with their
Lighthouse 2 software update.
Having something you can carry around with
Free Expedition?
De : Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com
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Envoyé le : mercredi 19 février 2014 11h07
Objet : Re: Stus-List Navigation Software
Steve,
The new Ray software allows you to use free charts, at
A Standard Horizon CP190i is available for less than $400, is waterproof and
very reliable. See binnacle.com.
Rich
On Feb 19, 2014, at 11:53, Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem with an expensive helm mounted chart plotter is that it'll be old
news in a few years. I'm
Steve,
Hear, hear! My attitude toward electronics is exactly the same!
My wife likes the ipad enough that we bought a refurbished one to keep on board
all the time. It's great to have all our music with us too.
Tom _/)
On Feb 19, 2014, at 11:07 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
Any recommendations for us Android tablet users?
Thanks,
Mike Fair
Finnyacht 351
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software
The problem with an
Buy an iPad? :^)
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Feb 19, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Fair, Mike mike.f...@mckesson.com wrote:
Any recommendations for us Android tablet users?
Thanks,
Mike Fair
Finnyacht 351
I used to have rolls of 2/0 gauge wire for hooking up batteries and inverters.
We did a lot of 1500 watt units and a few 2500 and 3000 watt versions.
I would suggest most boats carry two of them. 1000 watt units are cheap enough
now at Worst Marine for heavy loads like shop vacs and other tools.
I have the SH cp190i on Touche'. It works for me.
Dennis C.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Rich Knowles r...@sailpower.ca wrote:
A Standard Horizon CP190i is available for less than $400, is waterproof
and very reliable. See binnacle.com.
Rich
On Feb 19, 2014, at 11:53, Stevan Plavsa
Who wants to be staring at a five inch display, when you can be looking at a
iPad screen? Also, don't get me started on plotters mounted at the helm. At
the helm the only person who can I look at it is the driver, and when the shit
hits the fan, the driver should be looking at something other
On a different note, does anyone have experience with the Navmatics Charts
and Tides app for iOS?
I had been thinking about purchasing a waterproof Galaxy tablet (which is a
bit over half the cost of an iPad) so I could run Active Captain Companion
at the helm of the boat while cruising, but
I didn't mean to stir up a pot of ...
I already had the iPad so it was an easy choice :)
I don't have radar, or AIS for that matter (though I want to buy that
GX2200). I don't even have a wind instrument (that's next on the list of
electronic want-to-haves). The CP190i doesn't come with charts.
As an aside, charging tablets and phones doesn't necessarily require an
inverter. One could go with something like this:
http://ca.binnacle.com/p8953/BLUE-SEA-1016-DUAL-USB-CHARGER-2-SOCKET-5V-2.1AMP/product_info.html
Phones and tablets are DC, why convert and convert again?
I'm looking into DC
Just invite a friend who has a GPS or iPad. $0.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.comwrote:
As an aside, charging tablets and phones doesn't necessarily require an
inverter. One could go with something like this:
Rick: I just searched the App Store for Navmatics and drew a blank. ??
Rich
On Feb 19, 2014, at 13:26, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote:
On a different note, does anyone have experience with the Navmatics Charts
and Tides app for iOS?
I had been thinking about purchasing a
Roger,
This happens, because of the MAJ (Magic Apple Juice) that is dispensed by all
Apple products. It is highly addictive and causes great admiration of Apple
products. (do I need to put a smiley here? ;-)).
I use tablets of all kinds, but on the boat a dedicated GPS and a chartplotter
Rick,
It is the Garmin BlueChart app. From the reviews, it can not transfer to a
Garmin plotter unless the plotter has a wifi adapter. I have a Ray
plotter, so I can not transfer routes and waypoints.
Steve, No offense taken.
Joel
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rich Knowles
+1 to what Stevan said.
Sailboat Owners had some testing results published recently and charging an
iPad (of all things) came about 20-25% less over a DC charger (compared to the
inverter/AC charger combo). These inverters are not as efficient as we would
like them to be.
A note: check the DC
I used a laptop with navigation software until I bought a chart plotter on
ebay. Yes, it's a little out of date, but the charts aren't and the price was
right. I'll be adding AIS soon, with help from Fred Street. That will make for
safer sailing when I'm in the shipping lanes.
I don't have
I installed and used this USB socket last year . it is barely able to keep
up charging the iPad when it is at full brightness as it might be during
daylight sailing. I bought a cheap 3 Amp 12V converter / USB plug to
hard-wire-in near the helm station for less than $10 from China. I do have
a
Check out Maine Sail's recent article
http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/ipad_charge_
Details the energy losses of inverters vs DC chargers
Mark
-
Dr. Mark Bodnar
B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
Bedford Chiropractic
We are about to buy one of the new pads so we can move up to the latest
system both on board as well as at home. Are there any that have good results
when in direct sunlight? not sure which ones are the best any help with this
info
I don't think there are any that are terrific in the sun, but I just saw
this deal on a last-generation one:
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Retina-Display-MD510LL-Generation/dp/B009W8YQ6K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1392842027sr=8-2keywords=ipad
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:40 PM, ahycr...@cox.net wrote:
Just remember that the WiFi-only iPads do NOT have internal GPS; you need to go
to one of the ones that are cell-capable to get that.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Feb 19, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Andrew Burton
Fred
Oh I didn't know that I thought they all had gps i'll keep that in
mind.
thanks, Gary
Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net wrote:
Just remember that the WiFi-only iPads do NOT have internal GPS; you need to
go to
Try this one:
http://www.macmall.com/p/Apple-iPad/product~dpno~9418829~pdp.iadfefi
$429.99 with 32GB. It’s for Sprint, but if you need the cellular just to get
GPS and aren’t going to activate it, no big deal. That’s a heck of a price for
the 4th gen Retina iPads.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
I have an iPad and use iNavX in addition to my RayMarine chart plotter at the
helm.
Someone pointed out that racing boats put a plotter on an arm in the
companionway so that the entire crew can see it. For 2-person cruising, I
don't think this setup would work very good because it is in a
I would like to point out that while NOAA charts are great in the US and
Canada, they are not very good in the Bahamas and the Carribbean. You need to
be able to get other electronic charts for these areas. I bought Wavyline
charts for the Bahamas, which are a lot more detailed than NOAA
The lit on the Blue Sea says it’ll supply 2.1A, so it should charge an iPad,
although it’ll take a little longer than the 2.5A Apple charger.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Feb 19, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Edd Schillay
I am not an Apple fan although the Admiral has 2. An Ipad original and a new
Mini. Wifi only so no GPS.
For myself I bought a Sony Xperia tablet because it is waterproof to about 10’.
Really only needs to be splash proof. I bought Navionics HD and so far I am
pleased but it has all been
Fred
Would this unit with 32 gig be good enough for a nav system with charts
and an ais system as well? I am currently using an old think pad with Chart
View (very old ) for navigation. We have an old green screen radar. Its what
the boat came with and as long as it is working we'll
I'll wait until Navionics or somebody comes out with an app for Google
Glassor have they?
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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You can’t go wrong with almost any Samsung tablet (Galaxy pads). They have an
advantage that you can get a stand (mind you, not that useful on a boat), they
come with a MicroSD card slot (usually) and have an option to attach any USB
device (low power, so e.g. USB thumb drive, but a real hard
Agreed. Nexus tablet has all the functionality of Ipads at less than half
the price. I run Navionics as well as a few others. I too have the standard
version on my tablet, as well as my phone. My wife has an Ipad...and
prefers my Nexus tablet.
I do not yet have a mount for it at the binnacle so
Folks,
How much more efficient is the Blue Sea charger than a standard 12volt socket?
I do like the sleekness of the Blue Sea.
Tom Anderson
CC 32 Nonpareil
Marblehead, MA
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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:12:24 -0600
From: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
The BlueSea socket is somewhat less efficient assuming a 12V socket is 100%
efficient. The Bluesea is converting from 12V to 5V for the USB socket with
some loss along the way. Limiting the amps too … 2.1 amps typical for a
charging port. I would assume BlueSea is using the same electronics
Hi all,
I just ordered my Triton wind / depth / speed / wind vane / hull
transducer package and found out I can get an additional Triton T41 display
for free ! (A 450.00 value)
It's called BG Winter Rebate. They have rebates on the Zeus chart
plotters as well. A note here is that the
FWIW, I have never had a chart plotter at the helm and have only wished
for one once. I do have a MultiControl at the helm, and digital
displays mounted above the companionway. When approaching an unknown or
potentially dangerous situation, I tend to plan ahead and create a
series of
Oops. Also SOG and HDT. From that you can figure Cross Track Error
and currents in your head.
wrote:
So far, I haven't messed up, and it's been enough to have DTW and BTW
in my face.
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I want to dispel a misconception here on the list--you CAN use an iPad for
mapping without buying the version with cell capability. You simply do it with
a small Bad Elf GPS unit that plugs into your lightning connection on iPad4 or
later. There is also one that works on iPad3 and earlier.
Yes, no problem charging my iPad on the Blue Sea USB charging ports wired
directly into the boat's 12-volt DC system!
Bob
Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days (1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
Annapolis, Maryland
email: dainyr...@icloud.com
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
There's nothing--absolutely
Actually you can. Not sure about bifocals though.
On Wednesday, February 19, 2014, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, but for you old geezers, I don't think you can get Google Glass with
prescription lenses!
sam :-)
*From: *Kevin Driscoll
*Sent: *Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:41 PM
My caution on tablets and phones, apple or not, is matching the output of the
built in transformer plug or car charger to the draw required by the device.
Too low and you may get a fire hot charger with little device charging.
If the charger is too large there is the risk of overheating the
Hi
I have used a CPAP for 12 years, both on sailing and white water canoe trips.
I own 5 machines, kept in different places and one to travel with.
I run one of my CPAPS off 12 v and the draw is reasonable for sail and canoe,
however I do consider this to be one that I could walk away from
To access the app in iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/charts-tides/id757086914?mt=8
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/charts-tides/id757086914?mt=8ign-mpt=uo%3D4
ign-mpt=uo%3D4
Here are some of the features mentioned in the Active Captain review:
- NOAA and CHS Canadian chart
someday Google Glass progressive trifocals with transition tint,
waterproof to 2 m and child/old fart safe ...
Don
On Feb 19, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually you can. Not sure about bifocals though.
On Wednesday, February 19, 2014,
I thought the list established a while ago that Apple didn’t sell versions of
the iPad that were not cellular ready, and thus they had a GPS?
And after working off and on for a couple of weeks to set up and learn the
iPad, I’m not a great fan either. I’ve been a windows person since version
For anyone with an Apple tablet but no GPS, take a look at bad-elf.com. A
reasonable solution.
Rich
On Feb 19, 2014, at 20:57, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote:
I thought the list established a while ago that Apple didn’t sell versions of
the iPad that were not cellular ready,
I've got an iPad and a Nexus 7. My last phone was an iPhone and my current
phone is a Nexus 5. Both platforms have their strengths and weaknesses. The
nexus does everything that an iPad does except stream video wirelessly to
my TV. The 10 screen is an improvement when using chart apps as well as
Basically ditto Robert. Elegance and reliability wins.
Rich
On Feb 19, 2014, at 21:35, Robert Boyer dainyr...@icloud.com wrote:
I hesitate to get into a debate about Apple vs. all other devices but I will.
During most of my engineering career I used Windows machines and looked down
on
Do you guys know what OS Raymarine, Garmin et al use? I'm sure they're
different but I'm guessing they are all proprietary to their brand. Is that
correct? If it is, that would mean that they have a whole team of people
developing their OS, right?
Why?
A thought: why don't they simply license
The Hyundai will get you there, but the BMW will offer a nicer experience.
A nexus 7 costs what, $250? I can drop six of them in the lake for what a
Raymarine E series costs. It fails to compete with the plotter for marine
readyness but otherwise it does so, so much more. A plotter is better at
Make it happen and get a lot of beer!
Rich
On Feb 19, 2014, at 22:06, Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you guys know what OS Raymarine, Garmin et al use? I'm sure they're
different but I'm guessing they are all proprietary to their brand. Is that
correct? If it is, that
I think what you're really suggesting is called open source. Tough to justify
if you've invested millions and all you've managed to accomplish is taking the
#1 spot away from Apple.
John
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 19, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Rich Knowles r...@sailpower.ca wrote:
Make it happen
The typical, thrifty day sailor / coastal cruiser wannabe would like an
inexpensive, sunlight-viewable, waterproof display - with optional
touchscreen. Most everything else is software.
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL
The market is changing though...
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Not sure how useful a touchscreen is in a rainstorm..?? Joysticks and buttons
work reasonably well.
Rich
On Feb 19, 2014, at 22:50, bobmor99 . bobmo...@gmail.com wrote:
The typical, thrifty day sailor / coastal cruiser wannabe would like an
inexpensive, sunlight-viewable, waterproof
Bob you've pretty much summed up my thoughts in one sentence. Touch screens
are great but I think we jumped the gun, there's still a need for buttons.
I like having both.
Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Rich Knowles r...@sailpower.ca wrote:
Not sure how useful a
Steve,
I don't necessarily agree with you about the advantages to the consumer of
what you propose, but stop for a minute and ask yourself:
Why does an Android tablet sell for $250 (I actually saw an Lenovo 10 32
meg android tablet at Office Depot today for $129. The 7 was only $99),
while
Thanks for putting into perspective Rick, I mostly agree with you. What I
don't agree with is that the consumer is buying software. We are, of
course, because we don't have a choice. I think that high prices for marine
grade equipment are justified minus the software. iPad and Nexus tablets
are
I think a variety of competing systems is terrific. If one operating system or
type of hardware dominated or pervaded the market, development would not be the
same and we'd have a whole new set of things to complain about.
Rich
On Feb 20, 2014, at 0:04, Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com
I think the ultimate point is that these systems really are expensive luxuries
rather than anything you need to sail.
I’ve been sailing off and on since 1980, and like many sailors, my cruising
grounds generally are within 150 miles of home. Most of the good places, I’ve
been to many times.
True — and if you’re already repeating instrument and MFD data via WiFi, that
can be a source of position data to an iPad as well. But when that goes down,
your iPad without GPS just becomes an expensive ebook reader.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard
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