30 hp vs. 18.
Joe
Coquina
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On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:42, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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My 1980 32 is hull #59 ... I have an atomic 4 so different beast but I can
cruise six plus knots at pretty low RPM. Two blade fixed, no idea as to size.
Per the race results on marionbermuda.com Dave was 4th in Class - 10th in
Division.
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Jonathan
Indigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT
On Jun 23, 2015, at 23:29, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List
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If I'm reading the race tracker correctly, it looks like Dave has a first in
Hans-Erik:
We have the same engine.our 32 has a fixed 2 blade prop (Michigan)
...from your numbers provided, your boat is not performing the same
as ours. I can 't be precise, but our boat is approx. 1 knot faster at
the rpm's you mentioned (GPS speed, not Signet knot meter).
Tim,
Thanks. I spoke with him. He doesn’t have a M-35 and, at best, I’m looking at
4-6 weeks of rebuild time with him. He said he’s swamped, so I took that as
more like 6-8 weeks.
Won’t go with him.
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City
Charlie,
The Enterprise’s displacement is 18,500 and Farron at Beta thought that the 30
would be the best fit to get the boat to it’s normal 7+ knots under power with
the two-blade prop.
I’m having trouble reconciling the $14,000 price tag (engine, shipping, est.
labor), but the idea of a
What a blast!! Glad some folks remember not to take sailboat racing too
seriously.
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Jonathan
Indigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT
On Jun 24, 2015, at 15:55, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
So... For the marina's annual Sailsticecelebration we had a 'Downwind
Umbrella
Edd,
Have a Beta 25 in our 33-ll, replaced a yanmar 2GM20, hardest part was removing
the old engine. We went with a bigger engine that just fit the space, but the
rails fit perfectly we had to add spacers under the mounts.. Local machine shop
did them in an hour or so.
Love the new engine,
Check with Joe Demers at Sound Marine Diesel in CT. Country's biggest
Beta dealer and he is a wizard with all makes. His prices are generally
a little better since he sells so many engines.
http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/
Bill Bina
On 6/24/2015 4:25 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote:
Edd,
Sorry about your impulse engine. I’d factor in how much you spend each year to
own the boat. My guess is that it works out to close to a B.O.A.T. unit per
week. The BETA-30 sounds like a good deal. You’d have a brand new engine
without having to screw around waiting to get your old
I like the comments making sailing time a priority over maintenance time. We
all want our boats to look great, but taking her out of the slip or off the
mooring is priority one, hoisting sails and making an adventure. I missed some
good sailing this spring while I repaired my steering, and I'll
Edd,
I am currently working with Al at Schooner Bay Imported Engines (who
provide most of the listing at Diesel Engine Trader). A Yanmar 3GMF30 was
advertised on a 3-week lead time and I am (hopefully) going to get it
shipped 6 weeks from order date. Just my experience; I'm not saying it is
Wal,
Funny stuff.
My story might offer some encouragement?
Everyone is different but I had the Hernia operation at 58. I had put it off
for a full year but glad I did it now. Took a full year before I stopped
feeling the little tingles from down there. I still work 40hrs/wk as an HVAC
tech
I like the Watco Teak Oil from Home Depot, too. I also use Pinesol on wood and
Tilex on hard surfaces.
Mold reduction strategy:
Pinesol is a great cleaner and if mixed thin, acording to the label does not
need rinsing. In the spring when it's too cold to do much on board, I spray
sections of
Sorry Ed, this seems to have gone from bad to worse.
At this point, I personally wouldn’t mess with a rebuild unless there was a
significant price difference - 5k or so which probably isn’t going to happen.
Yard bills are the same either way. I’d vote for whatever gets you back in the
water
No I mean it was really funny.
The surgery was actually fun, but the recovery was brutal. If I could
do it again I probably would have tried the laparoscopic procedure.
(Intuitive Surgical was actually one of my clients for years...) The
surgeon told me that there was less chance of nerve
YB has him 3rd in class. Either way, congrats to him and his crew!
Joel
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
Per the race results on marionbermuda.com Dave was 4th in Class - 10th in
Division.
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Jonathan
Indigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT
On Jun
Okay, here's the LAT38 link
http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/lectronicday.lasso?date=2015-06-24dayid=1232#Story2
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If the crank won’t turn, the suggestion about a bent rod is a real possibility.
Hydraulic Lock (cylinder full of incompressible water) would cause that.
Contact your nearest Kubota tractor dealer about an engine rebuild. The
marinized parts of the engine like the raw water pump and the heat
Wal
Had laproscopic. It failed. Regular is no more painful
Joel
On Wednesday, June 24, 2015, Wally Bryant via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
No I mean it was really funny.
The surgery was actually fun, but the recovery was brutal. If I could do
it again I probably would have tried
West has a few day sale on Garmin and Raymarine chartplotters with the new
hi res sonars.
I'm a newbie to most marine electronics. I have 20 year old Raymarine
instruments, and no plans to connect to charplotter. On Lake Superior, AIS
tells you where the freighters are, and GPS where the land is,
Hans-Erik,
Bob is correct in questioning the condition of the bottom of your boat - and
also of the prop. You haven't said where you sail, but if barnacles are a
possibility there I'd get a diver to look at the bottom of the boat.
The proper diameter and pitch prop for your boat (and a clean
On a happier note - this could be the first ever episode where Scotty gets to
say “Captain, the impulse engines can’t handle it but warp drive is good to go”…
John
On Jun 24, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
Edd,
Sorry about your impulse engine.
Hello folks,Any recommendations on a rigging company in Annapolis area?
Planning to replace my standing rigging and don't want to do it myself. I
already have a quote from the Annapolis Rigging Company and looking for a
second estimate. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
Aaron RouhiAdmiral
I enjoy working on my boat. I enjoy sailing even more but the boat is 35
years old, lots of things need attention. I frequently do the maintenance
stuff during the weekdays after work. Having only a few hours to sail or
maintain the boat I feel my time is better spent fixing, leaving the
weekends
Wal;
Go to the US Sailing website and look up the contact information for the
Gowrie Group and call Barbie Murray, who is the coordinator for the group
health coverage available to US Sailing members. That is the coverage I have
had for the past several years, since I retired.
There are a
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
If mold appears on fiberglass, I switch to using *Tilex*.
Scrubbing Bubbles Foaming Bleach is the bomb on fiberglass. Mold just
disappears.
Wear appropriate personal protective gear.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1
APS
On Jun 24, 2015 8:36 PM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
Hello folks,
Any recommendations on a rigging company in Annapolis area? Planning to
replace my standing rigging and don't want to do it myself. I already have
a quote from the Annapolis Rigging Company and
I spent yesterday and today scrubbing the deck (Scrubbing Bubbles Foaming
Bleach and a kitchen ScotchBrite pad), roughing up the wood and applying a
maintenance coat of Cetol Gloss. Thoroughly enjoyable. Looking at the
finished result was really nice.
Sailing is good but working on a boat can
EDD:
Lots of great advice in this thread…..BUT; a few years ago, I met with Rob
Ball at the Newport Boat show…
We were going over a couple of thing an I asked him (I own a CC 38MKII…1977)
if he had it to do over again……….what would be different. Without even
hesitating, he took
Hi Edd,
Wasn't this a suspected head gasket leak a while
ago? Then confirmed suspicion finding discoloured
oil (grey) and cranking with no firing? So now
it's probably just hydraulic'ed and they want to remove the whole puppy!
Did anyone try barring it over with the injectors removed?
Agreed,
That's why I try and prioritize the stuff by must do vs nice to have.
I do my best to get the must do well and fairly expeditiously, the rest
is somewhat maniana because it's lower on the priority list than racing
/ cruising with the family..
That's in contrast with 4 out of 6 of my
Oh my gosh, that was me.
Once upon a time, in a land far far away, I got really into doing
everything as perfect as possible. Then I was forced to make
compromises, because I was never actually going to go cruising if I
didn't finish off the list. So structurally sound was the top
I use lemon pledge to the keep the wood inside looking good. I'm grateful
for the recipe though because I've been wanting to line the quarter berth
with mahogany battens.
Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
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I have been using Old English furniture oil for about three years. Seems to do
the job for me with no downside noticed yet.
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Jonathan
Indigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT
On Jun 24, 2015, at 13:09, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
I bought a quart can of Watco Teak Oil at
I bought a quart can of Watco Teak Oil at Home Depot. After last summer,
the teak looked beat up and uneven. Even the admiral was impressed with
how good the teak look after I oiled it, and the can will last another 10
years or more.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Stevan
The 32 is underpowered. I have seen the same engine in a 27 which weighs
4000 lbs less. I get about 5.4 at 2700 and 5.9 at 3300 rpm. I have a fixed
2 blade prop.
Other than that, you got a great boat.
Cheers
david
CC32 Wanderer
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From:
I have the same 2GM20F engine in my current boat, a Bristol 30 that officially
weighs 8,700 pounds as opposed to the 32's 9,600.
I regularly reach 6.3 knots in flat water at 3,000 rpm. It cruises comfortably
at 5.5 knots at about 2,300 rpm.
I have a two-bladed prop at 14 X 11 in an aperture.
I used teak oil and it grew mold and black spots over the winter. Bleached it
out as best as I could. That's why I have to refinish the interior wood.
I'll try miniwax stain spar varnish.
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On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List
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Being the former owner of a CC 30, I asked mu surveyor that very question. He
was a former production supervisor at Niagara-on-the-Lake and he assured me
that the step under the mast on the 32 is solid glass.
cheers
david
From: Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 6:09
I have heard that lemon oil prevents mold. After recommendations from this
list I use Old English lemon oil. Comes in a trigger sprayer. Spray on,
rub in, wipe off. Fresh smell, no mold... Yet.
Josh Muckley
S /V Sea Hawk
1989 CC 37 +
Solomons, MD
On Jun 24, 2015 1:22 PM, Jerome Tauber via
Listers,
The yard is pulling out the Enterprise’s engine tomorrow. They can’t get it to
turn more than 3/4 of the way and they think it’s a bent rod or something.
So, as far as I can see, the options are:
1. They ship this engine to a place that can fix/rebuild. I know this is the
Just a thought Edd:
I repowered my 13,600 lb displacement CC 36 XL/kcb (1995) with a Beta 25 after
the Yanmar 30 GM?
blew a head gasket at about 11 years of use (operator/system error!).
It was a perfect match as well and all-in it was about $10K including install,
etc.
I bring it up only
Edd,
So sorry to hear this! You might check with these guys:
http://www.dieselenginetrader.com on rebuild time/price.
Joel
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Listers,
The yard is pulling out the Enterprise’s engine tomorrow. They can’t
David, you're a lifesaver :)
Thanks for replying to such an old email, you've set my mind at ease!
Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:20 PM, D.J. Platt via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Being the former owner of a CC 30, I asked mu surveyor that very
question.
So... For the marina's annual Sailsticecelebration we had a 'Downwind
Umbrella Race,' where you can sail using anything but an actual sail. I
made a joke (who, me?) about sewing my own sail out of women's
underwear. Women started giving me underwear, so I was committed.
It took me three
Geeze, ed, I'm so sorry for your troubles... I think if it were me, I'd call
Hansen Marine in mass and see what a new universal would cost... I think the
26hp one was like $8500.00 from some research I did a short time ago... Hansen
Marine Eng. Inc.
Tioga Way, P.O. Box 1106
Marblehead
Ed,
You may want to talk to these guys, they have have taken over the repair
business from Mack Boring who is the largest yanmar in the east. These guys are
in new jersey near long beach so you could drive the block down to speed repair.
Richard – east coast boat transmission – 732-991-0694
If you can get the exact same engine I'd do it. It will minimize issues
with the engine stringers and mounts, and alignment. I'm assuming you
were happy with your existing engine (when it was working.)
I replaced my Perkins 4-108, which in my opinion had no business being
on this boat, and
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