Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread mike amirault via CnC-List
Gelcoat is just pigmented polyester AFAIK, so I would go with polyester if it isn't going to show anyway. (note, some gelcoats may be based on epoxy) Styrene applied before the polyester may help to make a better bond.___ Email address:

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Nate Flesness via CnC-List
Ditto. Not even very firm rap of hand was needed... Nate "Sarah Jean" 1980 30-1 and T31 On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:21 AM, mike amirault via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Stevan, mine just popped out with a firm rap from my hand. Had to fix up a > few small patches of gelcoat but

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I like the VHB tape method but wasn't there some discussion in previous posts about the structural properties of the various sealants? Is this or should this be a concern? VHB is a product line with various thicknesses and bond strengths so it is important to make sure you know what you're

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread mike amirault via CnC-List
Stevan, mine just popped out with a firm rap from my hand. Had to fix up a few small patches of gelcoat but nothing major. Mike Amirault C MKii SMSC___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
I used epoxy filled 50-50 with colloidal silica & 3M glass bubbles. Without the 3M bubbles, sanding the thickened silica epoxy mix is like sanding a rock. - Paul E. 1981 C 38 Landfall S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ > On Nov 9, 2015, at 6:48 AM,

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread bobmor99 . via CnC-List
A very important distinction (made before by others) when talking about rebedding windows/ports/port lights is whether the window is the old style, i.e. aluminium frame attached to the cabintop and a lens attached to the frame or, the newer style which is a lens glued directly to the the outside

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
Dave, I checked your blog and that's an impressive effort there on the refit. I hope the VHB works out for you. Ahmet, I hear butyl is good for the aluminum frame portlights on the 70s C The fixed port lights on the 80s boats are supposed to be structural so they have to be bonded to the cabin

Re: Stus-List New to me C 33

2015-11-09 Thread Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List
Martin, Do know if they have drawings for 30-1? What is the process for requesting them? It would be great to have Admiral Maggie's drawings... Cheers, Aaron Rouhi Admiral Maggie 79 30-1 Annapolis, MD On Nov 9, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Bob, Good point. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:50 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > A very important distinction (made before by others) when talking about > rebedding windows/ports/port lights is whether the window is the old style, > i.e.

Re: Stus-List Shift / throttle cables

2015-11-09 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
My throttle cable came with a small clamp that squeezes the outer plastic sheath against the inner SS rod. I've seen this same setup on several other boats. Without it, the throttle spring pulls the lever till the engine slows to an idle. Some Edson binacles have a screw that serves the same

Re: Stus-List race to cuba

2015-11-09 Thread Paul Eugenio via CnC-List
I have been looking for final results for several days. There has been no update on the race website, but I came across this in the Pensacola News Journal: http://www.pnj.com/story/sports/2015/11/09/kriegel-reiss-share-pensacola-la-habana-honors/75485862/ Congratulations to the Deja Vu crew

Stus-List C 25 headsail size

2015-11-09 Thread Ahmet via CnC-List
Next year I will race Tabasco a bit. I have 2 headsails, one seems to be a 105, the other a 130. I like the 105, because it is easy to tack, and strong enough to have an enjoyable sail if I am lazy and it is blowing over 10. The sail in Sailboatdata looks like a pretty big sail, like a 150. What

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Not quite the same thing but lately I've been removing ports that were held in with sealant by using a vibrating saw with a caulk cutting blade. Like these: http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-OSC214C-4-Inch-Caulk-Knife/dp/B004UBF43S http://multifitblades.com/straight-sealant-cutter.html Not sure how

Re: Stus-List Removal of Datamarine depth transponder

2015-11-09 Thread Ahmet via CnC-List
The transducers I removed were twist and pull type. They usually have to o-rings on them. You should have a dummy plug to put in there ASAP (i.e.within seconds) if you are in the water. They are designed to be removed while in the water, but is is a very "exciting" process. On some boats there is

Stus-List personal contact

2015-11-09 Thread Ron via CnC-List
Nate Could you email me at rbfrer...@yahoo.com Thanks Ron C 30-1 STL Nate Flesness via CnC-List wrote: >___ > >Email address: >CnC-List@cnc-list.com >To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Was afraid of that. The only ports close to the new C ports I've done were on a Beneteau. Don't remember how hard the adhesive was. Dennis C. On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Dennis, > I'm quite sure those blades would work

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread mike amirault via CnC-List
"Wow! You guys are lucky! My Windows came out in pieces with significant gel coat damage."Well, Gary, you are "High Maintenance" ;)Mike AmiraultLovely Cruise C___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Gary W. Russell via CnC-List
Wow! You guys are lucky! My Windows came out in pieces with significant gel coat damage. Gary S/V High Maintenance 1990 C 37 Plus East Greenwich, RI, USA Sent from my iPhone. ~~~_/)~~~ > On Nov 9, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List > wrote: > > Ditto. Not

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Dennis, I'm quite sure those blades would work well for soft calk like silicones or urethanes, but Plexus is hard as a rock and I don't think they would work. In addition, the big problem is getting at the bottom window joint that is very close to the turn on the deck. Gary S/V High

Re: Stus-List C 25 headsail size

2015-11-09 Thread Rick Taillieu via CnC-List
Ahmet, When these boats were designed in the early ‘70s a #1 genoa was a 170 (actually around a 163% overlap), a #2 was a low hoist 150 and the working jib was a high clew 110. Now PHRF regions have a 153/155 as a #1 genoa and anything over that carries a rating penalty. If you race in an

Re: Stus-List Soda Blasting

2015-11-09 Thread Rick Taillieu via CnC-List
Mike, I had mine done in Ontario, I don’t know who does it out here. Maybe call around to some mobile sand blasting companies and see if they do soda or dry ice blasting. >From what I’ve heard, dry ice blasting leaves a lot less mess to clean up. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 C 25 #371

Re: Stus-List C 25 headsail size

2015-11-09 Thread Jack Brennan via CnC-List
I had a 150 and a 110 on my old C 25, and that was a nice selection. I also bought an old 170 drifter on the web that was absolutely beautiful in very light air. The 25 heels to about 25 or 30 degrees and then locks in solid, so it’s not necessarily time to reef when you hit that point. That’s

Re: Stus-List Shift / throttle cables

2015-11-09 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Take your cables to the local NAPA or other auto parts store. They will match the length and the cable ends to the proper Teledyne – Morse cables for your installation. They are pretty inexpensive, I think I paid about $40-45 for the replacement cables for my 38 (one of which was the old fat

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Ahmet via CnC-List
A lot of people paraise using Butyl tape for attaching windows. I have not done it, but I can see the results on my C Hull/Deck joint, and it looks pretty good Ahmet On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Bruce, > Welcome to the C

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Butyl tape is a terrific sealant. I use it all the time. It is not an adhesive, however, and should not be used to bond windows to fiberglass. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Ahmet via CnC-List wrote: > A lot of people paraise using Butyl tape

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Bruce, Welcome to the C forum. Some members get a little cranky, but most are wonderful folks that just want to help. First a few basics. Plexiglas is a trade name for acrylic and Lexan is the trade name for poly carbonate. Poly carbonate is known for being bullet proof, but easy

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
More response to this thread; I’ve been working on the fixed ports on my boat over the last few days and and paying close attention. After absorbing a good bit of the info in the thread and the links provided, I’m planning on moving away from using Plexus ("if it was good enough for my

Re: Stus-List New to me C 33

2015-11-09 Thread John and Sue Fletcher via CnC-List
The cushion for the settee on my c 33-1 fits nicely on the outer side wall of the quarter berth cant remember if the wood reinforcement goes up or down but it fits much nicer one way than the other. I replaced my ports with beckson opening ports and all i had to do was take out a little of the

Re: Stus-List New to me C 33

2015-11-09 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
>3.) Where can I find out the fiberglass layup schedule? Paul, A good place to find details on your C’s construction details is the Maritime Museum of the Great Lakes in Kingston. I was able to buy copies of Calypso build drawings which have been very helpful on our deck restoration project.

Stus-List Removing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread robert via CnC-List
Steve: I took a narrow but very stiff putty knifefurther sharpened the edge with a filethen with a hammer, slowly taped and cut out the old windows from the inside. Got 3 windows out, no problem, then window no .4, the forward long port one, bottom and 2 sides cut O.K..had a

Stus-List Removal of Datamarine depth transponder

2015-11-09 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
I need to remove my Datamarine transponder to send it to DMI for repair. Does anyone know how it is held in place in the through hull. I can't see any retaining pins etc - yet it has a "t" like handle which implies it should be removable with ease. -- Jonathan Indigo C 35III SOUTHPORT CT

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

2015-11-09 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Josh, I have been thinking the same thing. So far (only removed one window) the damage has been contained under the glazing. Gary S/V High Maintenance 1990 C 37 Plus East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List Removal of Datamarine depth transponder

2015-11-09 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
ALL of the datamarine transducers that I've had or seen have a pin and ring which secure the transducer. The T-handle on mine are used to secure the transducer thru-hull housing in the hull. Don't touch until you are really sure AND on the hard. Maybe some pictures would help us see what you're

Re: Stus-List New to me C 33

2015-11-09 Thread bobmor99 . via CnC-List
Hi Paul, Are the port frames salvageable? It's not too hard to put in new lenses. I've used butyl between the frames and the cabintop and black 4200 to seal the lenses into the frames. No leaks - finally. As for the layup schedule, I'd just overbuild it until the extra fiberglass is almost