Re: Stus-List Baby stays

2018-11-07 Thread Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
We have rarely had to use our baby stay. But, when we needed it, it was a real comfort. To keep lines from hanging up when it is stowed against the mast, I put it in about 10 feet of half inch plastic conduit. The conduit helps slide the sail across when the baby stay is being used. Fred Hazzard

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread Wade Glew via CnC-List
this looks good Josh though I fear the Alpine Butterfly knot would catch on my baby stay the same way my continuous genoa sheet (secured to clew with luggage tag knot) does now. I would love to remove the baby stay but I can't find any information on rig stability if I were to do so. Any

Stus-List Baby stay (bs) bs

2018-11-07 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
My 1995 XL/kcb was originally fit with baby stays, which as others have noted are generally a big PITA. However, since they ‘came as standard’ on my boat, who was I to think that they were not essential—I am hardly a naval architect/engineer or otherwise qualified to question their necessity.

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread schiller via CnC-List
After buying a sheet and halyard kit from Cajun Ropes that came with loose ends, I have attached them with halyard knots and never had a hang up on shrouds or baby stays.  The only thing that we get hung up on occasion is the forward hatch.  I have found the halyard knot to be much better than

Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
No Edd... Shackles flying across the deck in tack or having the shackle scar your dodger are not good things. I learned to do an eye splice and went from knots to eyes and a single soft shackle. Slick looking and no more having the sheets hang up on the baby stay either. Tom Buscaglia S/V

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Like others, I use soft shackles. Touche' has double lower shrouds. Bowline knots always hung up on the forward lower shrouds. Soft shackles eliminated the problem. Got them from apsltd. See: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsMU9xOXBVd3F5Slk I just bought another one for

Stus-List Genoa shackles

2018-11-07 Thread Daniel Sheer via CnC-List
I use soft shackles as well. Made them myself, not hard. Far superior to metal shackles, particularly for this application. Much less likely to damage something when flapping around. My head, in particular. Dan SheerPegathy - LF38Rock Creek off the Patapsco

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa sheets

2018-11-07 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Baby stays are nothing but trouble more adjustments and totatly in the way of everything else some C designs dont have them and some older designs have single spreaders and no check stays. Keeps sailing simple and just as good and just as fast like my 35 mkII i dare you to keep with me around the

Stus-List Soft shackles in action

2018-11-07 Thread Thomas Delaney via CnC-List
Sorry John, it never occurred to me to take good photos of the soft shackles in action. I have a photo that shows them on a delivery jib in May, but none with the racing sails. I ended up using the same two shackles for all of my headsails across the wind range - had no problems with them in 20+

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa sheets

2018-11-07 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Thanks Len, Unfortunately I just purchased two new headsail lines ( 11mm VPC) I thought they would come nicely cut trimmed, sealed, taped, something but they were literally hacked off frayed and I had to waste 6” cut and seal myself lesson learned I really wish I went with one long piece as

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread Thomas Delaney via CnC-List
Hi Edd, I used a single set of homemade soft shackles all season long. I bought a set of fids and a 100ft spool of 4mm UHMWPE cord on Amazon, and spent the winter making dozens of them. I tried two different styles and ended up like the one at the following link the best

Stus-List Shackle for Genoa sheets

2018-11-07 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
John, the 37+ has a baby stay in front of the mast that a metal shackle or a knot sometimes gets caught on. Soft shackles work great. Your 1/2 inch sheet is good for about 10,000#. 1/4 inch dyneema core made into a soft shackle about 12,000# Give or take plenty strong enough. You do need loops

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I haven't had to replace my jibsheets. When I do this is how I'll do it. https://stingysailor.com/2015/06/27/diy-soft-shackles-for-quick-and-easy-headsail-changes-2/ Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 3:57 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Our man Josh has an excellent video on this ! From: CnC-List on behalf of WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 4:21:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: WILLIAM WALKER Subject: Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets? Ditto soft

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
So with the soft Shackle ( which I use for tying off to the mid toerail and works amazing even in Florence! ) what size line ? (Dyneema?) Is best for the head sail on a 37, and are you using a splice on the sheet? If tying a knot for soft shackle why Knot just tie sheet to clew ? Any one

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List
Ditto soft shackle.. Make your own, good winter evening project...plenty of videos on line. CnC 36 Pentwater, Mi. (Winter Cincinnati, Ohio) Bill Walker On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 Richard Bush via CnC-List wrote: Edd, I went to the "soft shackle" last year and love it...I have have not

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Edd, I use soft shackles. They hurt a lot less when you get hit in the head with them. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 3:57 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Listers, > > Does anyone use a shackle

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread T power via CnC-List
I use a soft shackle, works awesome, no worry about chafe. Cheers. Get Outlook for Android From: CnC-List on behalf of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 4:56:19 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edd Schillay

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
I don't think a metal shackle ‎on the jib clew is a good idea. Think about how much damage that can do when the sail is flogging, damage to the boat or the crew.A soft shackle would work though.

Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
Edd, I went to the "soft shackle" last year and love it...I have have not had a single (not one) line hang on the shrouds using the soft shackle...I have been pleased with the lack of maintenance required also...; Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River Mile 596: Richard N. Bush

Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

2018-11-07 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Listers, Does anyone use a shackle for their genoa sheets instead of a knot? If so, how big? What type? What kind of breaking strength? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

Re: Stus-List Rudder squeak

2018-11-07 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
That little squirt is how I know I have enough! On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 3:46 PM bwhitmore via CnC-List Al little grease squirts out around the shaft. No big deal. :) > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > ___ > > Thanks everyone for

Re: Stus-List Rudder squeak

2018-11-07 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
Al little grease squirts out around the shaft.  No big deal.  :)Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone null___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to

Re: Stus-List Rudder squeak

2018-11-07 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
What happens if you over do it? Josh On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 11:53 AM dwight veinot via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > You can probably overdue the greasing if you installed zerk fittings and > use a gun that wont happen with grease cups i find them ( my boat has 2) > quite hard to

Re: Stus-List Rudder squeak

2018-11-07 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
You can probably overdue the greasing if you installed zerk fittings and use a gun that wont happen with grease cups i find them ( my boat has 2) quite hard to turn. Cups can be refilled and i believe a zerk fitting would fit the same threaded hole the cup used On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 8:19 AM

Re: Stus-List Rudder squeak

2018-11-07 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
I installed grease zerks with the rudder in the boat and the boat in the water.  I drilled two holes in the rudder tube, one above and one below the autopilot arm and used a tap for the right threads to install the zincs.  Don't over tighten them.  I the used Green Grease as discussed